I think its pretty freekin funny that everyones down to fuck on somebody elses girl but wouldnt want to let there girl get fucked by the other dude. Have we not heard "Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You" its in the bible lol. Oh and "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife" SINNERS!!! Just kiddin.
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Some of you guys might need to work on the anger management skills a bit 
But seriously, I could never relate to the heavy swinging myself, but have met many over the years and find no difference in the divorce rate. In fact, I have a book called "The Lifestyle" that is a study of it and there is no difference. I have learned you can't tell anyone how to "be" when they are in love. We all have different experiences. Some hate it when their spouse looks at another and others hate it imagining their spouse is imagining another during sex (that type better learn to accept that EVERYONE does that at some point....YES, even your girlfriend). Some here say "why get married then"?..... well, it is pretty simple with these people:
They get married because they love each other and still want to play.....together (most will not "play" separately). Marriage has nothing to do with outside sex (as most men, and women in marriages have strayed once or twice so we could say the same about them). I have experimented with it once, been the "outside guy", watched others and I choose the simple traditional marriage idea myself. But some of you guys may be mistaking what swingers do with "fucking around", ie: "cheating". They both, man and woman, want to have a partner they can have these crazy experiences with. They like watching their partners having sex. A personal example with me:
I have had threesomes with my wife/girlfriend and I have had them with two girls who I barely knew and I can guarantee you.... the threesomes with the loved one was a ZILLION times better because you have someone you care about sharing with you. In my case, I enjoy female on female and seeing my wife getting off from another girl turned me on like crazy where watching the other girls was just "fun". So, those swingers get way more pleasure having a loved partner than just some nobodies.
My ex wife and I didn't swing (except for the one night we gave it a shot) but we loved bringing a third girl in. She loved it and I loved it and I can tell you the sex was amazing and we had probably the funnest and sexiest times ever! We'd go on trips together, hang out in Vegas together, etc. and after the third would leave, my wife and I would have the most awesome sex for months. Our relationship certainly was more fun because of it and had zero problems. We didn't love each other anymore as a result, but we had a great time. We still laugh about it today (as friends).
So those of you ready to break your girlfriends jaws at the thought of it, just chalk yourselves up as people that would not be happy swinging and I suppose would never, ever cheat on a loved one (kudos for that). But for some people, the experimenting was very fun and beneficial (my current girlfriend LOVES threesomes) and for others, the swapping is the only way to go.
No matter what any of us think.
Happy PE!
But seriously, I could never relate to the heavy swinging myself, but have met many over the years and find no difference in the divorce rate. In fact, I have a book called "The Lifestyle" that is a study of it and there is no difference. I have learned you can't tell anyone how to "be" when they are in love. We all have different experiences. Some hate it when their spouse looks at another and others hate it imagining their spouse is imagining another during sex (that type better learn to accept that EVERYONE does that at some point....YES, even your girlfriend). Some here say "why get married then"?..... well, it is pretty simple with these people:
They get married because they love each other and still want to play.....together (most will not "play" separately). Marriage has nothing to do with outside sex (as most men, and women in marriages have strayed once or twice so we could say the same about them). I have experimented with it once, been the "outside guy", watched others and I choose the simple traditional marriage idea myself. But some of you guys may be mistaking what swingers do with "fucking around", ie: "cheating". They both, man and woman, want to have a partner they can have these crazy experiences with. They like watching their partners having sex. A personal example with me:
I have had threesomes with my wife/girlfriend and I have had them with two girls who I barely knew and I can guarantee you.... the threesomes with the loved one was a ZILLION times better because you have someone you care about sharing with you. In my case, I enjoy female on female and seeing my wife getting off from another girl turned me on like crazy where watching the other girls was just "fun". So, those swingers get way more pleasure having a loved partner than just some nobodies.
My ex wife and I didn't swing (except for the one night we gave it a shot) but we loved bringing a third girl in. She loved it and I loved it and I can tell you the sex was amazing and we had probably the funnest and sexiest times ever! We'd go on trips together, hang out in Vegas together, etc. and after the third would leave, my wife and I would have the most awesome sex for months. Our relationship certainly was more fun because of it and had zero problems. We didn't love each other anymore as a result, but we had a great time. We still laugh about it today (as friends).
So those of you ready to break your girlfriends jaws at the thought of it, just chalk yourselves up as people that would not be happy swinging and I suppose would never, ever cheat on a loved one (kudos for that). But for some people, the experimenting was very fun and beneficial (my current girlfriend LOVES threesomes) and for others, the swapping is the only way to go.
No matter what any of us think.
Happy PE!
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I just have to say that I have NEVER pictured anyone but the person Im with while having sex with them. I even feel guilty imagining someone else while masturbating even if what Im picturing is sex between a women and a man. I feel guilty watching porn as well...but I do it anyway
Hmm thats gonna be hard I'm kinda different
but hey if you look like your avatar lets start the search at my house :becky:Well....I've heard too often that I look like either Mickey Rourke or Bruce Willis. Nobody says Brad Pitt....but I do have the body.
Should I bring wine??
Should I bring wine??
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I think bb touched on it above and I do find this both interesting and amusing. Why is it that guys get freaked out and pissed off if their girl fucks another guy but it's ok if they fuck another girl? It should seem to me that what's good for the goose is good for the gander correct? I'm a guy and even I find my species to be very confusing sometimes.
Mr.B, you are right. As I get older I realized my double standards growing up and so can at least relate to that crazy anger. But as you mature and become a little more comfortable in your skin, no matter what you prefer for yourself, you rarely get that pissed about what someone else does. I realized (regardless of the anomaly of Baybabe) that almost any girl you are with will at one time or another be turned on at the very least by someone else. I know jealousy is a crazy emotion, and I have always hated the times it got a hold of me, but when you learn to put yourself in their shoes, man or woman, it does give you a different perspective. Male sexual nature though has always been fueled by testosterone and territory so that is why it crops up the way it does.
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I totally agree squid. I'm also a very confident, comfortable in his own skin kind of guy. If my girl ever feels I'm not doing it for her anymore and she wants someone else, I'll wish her well. Yeah, I'd be hurt but I'll pick up the pieces and move KNOWING that it would strictly be her loss and not mine.
Quote: Girls are like phones. We love to be held, talked too but if you press the wrong button you'll be disconnected!
You forgot to mention the long distance charges! And the frequent outages! LOL
You forgot to mention the long distance charges! And the frequent outages! LOL
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So, that raises another question for you guys. If your wife/GF said she had absolutely no problem with you screwing another women - as long as she could watch -would you?
That is a great question and most, if not all, of the guys here that have said "I would be mortified, break her legs, leave her in a second, etc., if my girl wanted to be with another man" would not think for one second about doing it themselves if they were being intellectually honest. Of course, this is male nature to some degree and does not surprise me. sexuality and territory.
And I am not even saying it is a problem if you and your mate have the same goals. In example, my one girlfriend LOVED watching me with other women but wasn't interested in being with another man. And she really wasn't. She would constantly set up these "dates" with girls without telling me ahead of time and I would come home to these "surprises". And she would just sit back and watch most of the time, but jump in as well at times too. There are guys that really get turned on by watching their woemn though. As a matter of fact, I was asked next week to have sex with a guy's girlfriend as the two of them love this game together.
I think one of the things about the threesome issue is this (I have had this conversation with a few girlfriends): In a FFM threeway, the women usually play with each other as much as the man. But in a MMF threeway, the men (unless they are bi) do not get the same interaction. So there is certainly a different dynamic there. When people say "why are you cool with an FFM but not as much with a MMF" that has to be thought about (I have done both so speak from experience). For the first few times with my wife, we kept it "soft" with the girl which meant I did not have intercourse with her so my wife had time to digest it for days and weeks after in case she had this bad reaction to it. As it turned out, she kept pressing for more so at least she was able to sit with it.
But one always has to be careful with this. Case in point again: My current girlfriend was married and went out and got a girl for her and her husband (a stripper). They had a great time initially but soon the husband took it for granted and was not abiding by the rules they set up, in this case that the stripper was not to be alone with the husband without the wife there. A couple of times my girlfriend came back to find them hanging out before she got home. Later, my girlfriend (the wife) got resentful and when she heard that a group of these people her husband and her were going to be camping with were swingers, she felt she wanted to swap in an effort to balance it out. As it turned out, the husband was fine with it and for about 4 months these 5 sets of couples had a regular thing. But this sexual exploration of theirs unchecked and un"respected" as it was, did continue to escalate into a lot more than just a fun "Summer Lovers" threesome. And in truth, it became a wedge between them in the end (she ended up leaving him and living with one of the other men in the group).
So, it is VERY important if both of you want to try this that it gets discussed ad nauseum, so everyone knows what they are in for and never do it all on that first try as sometimes the girl may realize during the act that it is too much. I know in the swinger world it is a red flag, but many "vanilla" guys who get into these situations sometimes lose themselves in it and forget to respect the girl's (both of them) wishes. This stuff can backfire on you or can be amazing but it all comes down to:
a) Talking about it
b) making sure you are both on the same wave length.
And I am not even saying it is a problem if you and your mate have the same goals. In example, my one girlfriend LOVED watching me with other women but wasn't interested in being with another man. And she really wasn't. She would constantly set up these "dates" with girls without telling me ahead of time and I would come home to these "surprises". And she would just sit back and watch most of the time, but jump in as well at times too. There are guys that really get turned on by watching their woemn though. As a matter of fact, I was asked next week to have sex with a guy's girlfriend as the two of them love this game together.
I think one of the things about the threesome issue is this (I have had this conversation with a few girlfriends): In a FFM threeway, the women usually play with each other as much as the man. But in a MMF threeway, the men (unless they are bi) do not get the same interaction. So there is certainly a different dynamic there. When people say "why are you cool with an FFM but not as much with a MMF" that has to be thought about (I have done both so speak from experience). For the first few times with my wife, we kept it "soft" with the girl which meant I did not have intercourse with her so my wife had time to digest it for days and weeks after in case she had this bad reaction to it. As it turned out, she kept pressing for more so at least she was able to sit with it.
But one always has to be careful with this. Case in point again: My current girlfriend was married and went out and got a girl for her and her husband (a stripper). They had a great time initially but soon the husband took it for granted and was not abiding by the rules they set up, in this case that the stripper was not to be alone with the husband without the wife there. A couple of times my girlfriend came back to find them hanging out before she got home. Later, my girlfriend (the wife) got resentful and when she heard that a group of these people her husband and her were going to be camping with were swingers, she felt she wanted to swap in an effort to balance it out. As it turned out, the husband was fine with it and for about 4 months these 5 sets of couples had a regular thing. But this sexual exploration of theirs unchecked and un"respected" as it was, did continue to escalate into a lot more than just a fun "Summer Lovers" threesome. And in truth, it became a wedge between them in the end (she ended up leaving him and living with one of the other men in the group).
So, it is VERY important if both of you want to try this that it gets discussed ad nauseum, so everyone knows what they are in for and never do it all on that first try as sometimes the girl may realize during the act that it is too much. I know in the swinger world it is a red flag, but many "vanilla" guys who get into these situations sometimes lose themselves in it and forget to respect the girl's (both of them) wishes. This stuff can backfire on you or can be amazing but it all comes down to:
a) Talking about it
b) making sure you are both on the same wave length.
Hey bayabe if you said it was ok for your guy to fuck another woman as long as you could watch would you get pissed at him if he fucked her longer than he fucks you?
The only way I would say "Sure, fuck her while I watch" is if I didnt care one iota about the dude. Which brings me to the next point... I dont lay down with people "I dont care one iota for" soooo that brings me back to the question, If he fucked her longer I would think it was because either A) He's too nervous cause Im breathing down his neck or B) He aint that into her cause if she was doing it for him, he'd have a hard time fucking a long time. But like I said that AINT EVER gonna happen cause I dont share people I care for. Glad my current boyfriend feels the same.
Do you consider yourself jealous? Like do you feel your BF should not have female friends or get possessive at times? Or have you been cheated on a few times in the past?
I am just curious as I know most people are interested in "serial monogamy" over swinging so is pretty much the norm, but reading your reaction it sounds less like "not really my thing" and more like "AINT EVER gonna happen" as if maybe it is a sore spot.
Thanks.
Me and my girlfriend have tried swinging once. We went on a little get away together and went on a mini cruise from north England From a city called Hull to Amsterdam. During the Cruise we went to a few bars ect, met a nice good looking couple and got chatting to them, very nice down to earth people, it eventually came out that they were swingers and as the coversation flowed it led to them asking me and my girlfirend if we fancied giving it ago. We had never really thought about swinging before and it never really appealed to us but after a few drinks we thought......why not. Got too admit even though I was drunk It felt wierd when we were heading back to their cabin knowing my girlfriend is going to have sex with this other bloke, kind of exciting infact. Anway their cabin was the same set out as ours, a single bed with fold out bed above to make into bunkbeds.
Me and this other women climbed onto the top bunk, and my girlfriend and the other fella went on the bottom bunk, and we started playing. Whilest I was recieving oral my girlfriend seemed shocked but was also giggling at the same time, she was shocked at how big this fella was, just less than 9 inches erect an fairly thick. I felt quite embarassed when I saw how big he was, it was a shock to me aswel haha because I am only 4.8-5 inches long, he was twice as big!!! all sorts of thoughts were running through my mind, for example the bird I was about to have sex with is used to her fellas monster and not a small one like mine, though she never commented and was very comforting for me, also the thought of my bird having sex with a very well endowed man was dawning on me. My girlfriend wasn't so sure if she could handle it but decided to give it a go, and my god she screamed the room down, I had never herd her scream like that ever!!!! she absoloutely loved it. we moved down from the top bunk to the bottom to join them and and couldn't believe how much of this monster penis my GF was taking, she took it all, it actually realy turned me on and to be honest thats why I am here on this forum today. I have always wanted a bigger penis but since this event I have been determined to be bigger, and after a bit of searching on the internet I came across this site. Now I'm not expecting to hit the 9 inch mark, any gain in girth and length will be great, just have to be patient and dedicated. Sex with my partner today is still fantastic, I have never made her scream like this other bloke did but I certainly make it fun for her.
Me and this other women climbed onto the top bunk, and my girlfriend and the other fella went on the bottom bunk, and we started playing. Whilest I was recieving oral my girlfriend seemed shocked but was also giggling at the same time, she was shocked at how big this fella was, just less than 9 inches erect an fairly thick. I felt quite embarassed when I saw how big he was, it was a shock to me aswel haha because I am only 4.8-5 inches long, he was twice as big!!! all sorts of thoughts were running through my mind, for example the bird I was about to have sex with is used to her fellas monster and not a small one like mine, though she never commented and was very comforting for me, also the thought of my bird having sex with a very well endowed man was dawning on me. My girlfriend wasn't so sure if she could handle it but decided to give it a go, and my god she screamed the room down, I had never herd her scream like that ever!!!! she absoloutely loved it. we moved down from the top bunk to the bottom to join them and and couldn't believe how much of this monster penis my GF was taking, she took it all, it actually realy turned me on and to be honest thats why I am here on this forum today. I have always wanted a bigger penis but since this event I have been determined to be bigger, and after a bit of searching on the internet I came across this site. Now I'm not expecting to hit the 9 inch mark, any gain in girth and length will be great, just have to be patient and dedicated. Sex with my partner today is still fantastic, I have never made her scream like this other bloke did but I certainly make it fun for her.
