Will I get any gains with low testosterone?

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So turns out I've got low testosterone and wax even prescribed a gel, but don't use it because I'm worried about stopping the natural production.

My questions are?
can I grow anything with low testosterone levels? Should I just use the gel and resign to having to use it every day? And, is there a better more natural way to start production back In the body?
 

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It may be difficult to gain if your T levels are constantly low. Did you get a reason for why your T levels are low? Is it cyclic?

Heavy, intense weight training can produce good effects at naturally releasing testosterone. Learning to reduce anxiety helps too- as that counters catabolic hormones like cortisol from being released.
 

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Are you taking any other medications? I had low T for a few years and I finally figured out that it was my blood pressure meds that was causing it. Gave up the BP meds and no more problems.

If you have to use the gel, then your natural production will go down and you will notice your balls will get smaller. I took shots myself. I didn't like the idea that the gel could affect my wife if she was in contact with it. And the way we tend to intertwine, she would be exposed to it no doubt.

Before you start using the gel, be sure you have ruled out any other causes. I would recommended seeing a endocrinologist to find out what may be causing it. When I spoke to mine, he told me a vast majority of the cases of low T are caused by something we ingest. The reason I say go to an endocrinologist is most GP's and urologists tend to treat the symptom and not the cause like in my case. 3 years of wasted time and money just because I was taking meds and causing it myself without even realizing it.
 
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Testosterone has nothing to do with the expansion and deformation of connective tissues. If this were the case, women would make for terrible contortionists.
 

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How low are you? As long as you are able to achieve a semi, I see no reason low T would effect your PE results. I have severe ED and my T is below 300 and I have enjoyed decent gains.
 

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Testosterone has nothing to do with the expansion and deformation of connective tissues. If this were the case, women would make for terrible contortionists.

That would be the case if the mechanisms behind erections were not governed by hormones. Even if androgenic hormones had nothing to do with the penis, there is the issue of usually lowered libido (and subsequent erectile frequency) with low T.

There are references in medical journals that are pro- or neutral against the role that low T levels have on the mechanisms of obtaining erections, but there is an abundance of evidence that increasing T levels [esp. artificially]- as in the case of men who supplement with testosterone (NOT necessarily "steroids", of which there are many different types with various effects) reporting drastic increases in erectile frequency and increased libido.

Something not often discussed (though that's changing as evidence becomes more clear) is the effect of "mood" (emotions) and its effects on training results. Men with low T often have the negative side effect of depression and lack of motivation as well. This, combined with lowered libido, is not a good combination if you're looking to maximize gains.
 

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I see absolutely no reason why you shouldn't be able to gain with low testosterone... Though I bow to big Al in just about all of pe related matters, I think he slightly has the wrong end of the stick here and eiffel is spot on. The rebuilding of connective tissue is not a process dependent on testosterone, you will absolutely be able to deform penile tissue with low testosterone. The only issue may come with erection quality, as I certainly could buy the ideathat low testosterone could lead to low erection quality...
 

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I see absolutely no reason why you shouldn't be able to gain with low testosterone... Though I bow to big Al in just about all of pe related matters, I think he slightly has the wrong end of the stick here and eiffel is spot on. The rebuilding of connective tissue is not a process dependent on testosterone, you will absolutely be able to deform penile tissue with low testosterone. The only issue may come with erection quality, as I certainly could buy the ideathat low testosterone could lead to low erection quality...

If tissue rebuilding were the only factor, you would be right. Gains are very dependent upon EQ, though. In most cases I've seen, men with low T often report low EQ. Their moods are often affected as well- another important factor in gains.

Another thing to consider is that growth depends on overcompensation- not mere rebuilding (recovery). While this is apparent in skeletal muscle tissue, it's likely that the growth process in the penis is also aided by this.
 
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If tissue rebuilding were the only factor, you would be right. Gains are very dependent upon EQ, though. In most cases I've seen, men with low T often report low EQ. Their moods are often affected as well- another important factor in gains.

Another thing to consider is that growth depends on overcompensation- not mere rebuilding (recovery). While this is apparent in skeletal muscle tissue, it's likely that the growth process in the penis is also aided by this.

Fair points, what it really comes down to then is whether Ballsac has poor eq, something that I agree correlates to, but definitely isn't necessary found in folks with low testosterone.

My advice is that as long as your eq is good then get going on your exercises and I'm sure you'll gain. If you do have low eq then focus on getting this sorted first.

I will be interested to hear how you do, keep in touch :)
 

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Low Test hinders gains in bodybuilding but in terms of PE i have no idea. Either way it's not good to have low test so you probably wanna get checked out.
 

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Fair points, what it really comes down to then is whether Ballsac has poor eq, something that I agree correlates to, but definitely isn't necessary found in folks with low testosterone.

My advice is that as long as your eq is good then get going on your exercises and I'm sure you'll gain. If you do have low eq then focus on getting this sorted first.

I will be interested to hear how you do, keep in touch :)

When it comes to gains, EQ is "king" :)
 

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Very much appreciated, as far as the EQ goes it is all over the place some days I could rivet steel others it wouldn't push threw wet toilet paper (unfourtunatly the latter is becoming the norm)

Are there exercises that will help with EQ?
 
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Very much appreciated, as far as the EQ goes it is all over the place some days I could rivet steel others it wouldn't push threw wet toilet paper (unfourtunatly the latter is becoming the norm)

Are there exercises that will help with EQ?

The best (IMO) is edging/Stop and Starts. The key to that exercise is in the visualizations- they can be of more value than even the physical conditioning portion of the exercise.

An important note- fantasizing about sexual scenarios may help initially, but it's actually a shortcut that eventually causes limitations (and its own problems) at higher levels. Some men complain of getting so wrapped up in fantasizing that they find themselves doing just that even when their engaging in a live sexual encounter.

"Pure" visualizations focus on the emotions and sensations, and at its height you would not need any imaging of fantasies- and the like. The goal is to allow you to be able to fully immerse yourself in the experience when you're with a partner, and to enable you to be free of distractions.
 

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As above, but also kegel kegel kegel.