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Hey Waylander,

I'm going to experiment with Andractim cycling. Got any tips for me?
 

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Hey Waylander,

I'm going to experiment with Andractim cycling. Got any tips for me?

Do alot of research before you decide to do it, would be my advice. There is alot of info online, you just have to take some of it with a grain of salt.
There are some good discusions about it here at the gym.

Be aware that some of the guys online saying they grew 4 inches in a month are full of sh*t! Look for the medical data and realistic info. Then decide if it's right for you.
 

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Do alot of research before you decide to do it, would be my advice. There is alot of info online, you just have to take some of it with a grain of salt.
There are some good discusions about it here at the gym.

Be aware that some of the guys online saying they grew 4 inches in a month are full of sh*t! Look for the medical data and realistic info. Then decide if it's right for you.

I have already decided to do it. I haven't started yet, but once I do I will post daily progress on MOS.

Specifically, what I meant to ask you is: what do you recommend as far as cycling goes? Everyday for a specific duration (1, 2, 3 weeks?), or 3-4 days on/3-4 days off for a specific duration?
 

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I have already decided to do it. I haven't started yet, but once I do I will post daily progress on MOS.

Specifically, what I meant to ask you is: what do you recommend as far as cycling goes? Everyday for a specific duration (1, 2, 3 weeks?), or 3-4 days on/3-4 days off for a specific duration?

What I understood was to use it until the effects start diminishing. I applied it everyday, for 1 whole tube. Which ended up being a month(give or take a few days).
You do your routine hard during that time. After you stop applying the andractim, then you change to a light routine with frequent breaks for awhile(a few weeks).
After this time, you can start another cycle.

At least this is how I understood the process. hope it helps
 

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What I understood was to use it until the effects start diminishing. I applied it everyday, for 1 whole tube. Which ended up being a month(give or take a few days).
You do your routine hard during that time. After you stop applying the andractim, then you change to a light routine with frequent breaks for awhile(a few weeks).
After this time, you can start another cycle.

At least this is how I understood the process. hope it helps

so you didnt apply 5g a day ? one tube af andractim contains 80g and if you need 5g everyday you have for 16days?
80/5=16days? or im i missing something? thanks :)
 

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so you didnt apply 5g a day ? one tube af andractim contains 80g and if you need 5g everyday you have for 16days?
80/5=16days? or im i missing something? thanks :)


Good question! Now I'm second guessing myself. I used it in August of 09. I had wrote on my calender the day I started and stopped. But of course I threw away the calender in January. The measuring spatula isnt very high tech. I put two lines side by side on the marked area. That is supposed to be 5g. I did that once a day, until the tube was gone.
Like I said it's not a scientific measuring system. You can make the lines fat or skinny, depends on how hard you squeeze the tube.

It's like caulk, you can run a fine skinny bead, or a fat wide bead(if that makes any sense). I'm sure I missed a day or two along the way, but no more than that (Like I said earlier, I didnt take a very scientific approach with the first tube).
I'm sure there were times that it was less than 5g that I used, depending on how much I ended up with on the spatula at the time.

I'm tearing apart my desk now to see if I can find that calender. I'm pretty sure it ended up at the 3-4 week mark though. I promise that I will be more vigilant on the next tube!

PS. I can't find the calender.Must have threw it away. And I didnt start my journal here till later. Sorry.
 
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so you didnt apply 5g a day ? one tube af andractim contains 80g and if you need 5g everyday you have for 16days?
80/5=16days? or im i missing something? thanks :)

I have the tube and indeed it does say 80 grams on it - but I do not know what that means. 80 grams is equivalent to only 2.86 oz. This thing almost weighs a pound.

I am on day 3 of my program and it appears that 2.5 grams x2 per day will last me well over a month.
 

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BPFSl 7 1/4" added a few clamping sessions for experimenting purposes. I cut my jelq sets in half during thoughs days.

2-3 five minute clamp sets, with 5-10 min. breaks in between. I rewarm and massage my penis during the breaks.

I've gotten some very good expansion while doing this. I'm still very leary about clamping, so I will only do this a couple times a week.
 

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Hey Waylander. Whats your girth at these days mate?
 

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Hey Waylander. Whats your girth at these days mate?

I still am at 5 1/8" in girth. While clamped, I've seen it expand to over 5 1/4" a couple times though.

I just recieved my bathmate on Friday. I only had a chance to try it once over the weekend, but DAMN what a after effect!
I'm new to the whole bathtub workout thing, so I had alittle trouble getting and maintaining an erection before putting it on.
I think I was around 60-70 % when I finally got it on.
The suction was awesome to me. This is my first pump of any kind, so I don't have anything to compare it to.
I did a 10 minute warm up soak, then 10 minutes of pumping. I tried to do some half ass jelqing after the first pump, but like I said, I'm new to the bathtub workout. So I didn't have a good game plan.
I did one more pump after the jelq break(10 minutes). When I took it off, I was truely amazed! I had a great flacid hand and flacid girth for a good couple hours afterwards.
I've got alot of experimenting to do though.
 

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Quick links

Quick links

Start here(Rules,code,acronyms,faqs,all the basics): PEGym Forums - Announcements in Forum : Beginner's Forum

Grammer policy: https://www.pegym.com/forums/site-announcements-questions/2019-grammar-policy-change.html

Beginners checklist: The Beginner's Penis Enhancement Checklist

Motivational (pesg's story) https://www.pegym.com/forums/success-forum/3777-my-success-story-frustrated-beginner-read.html



Beginner routines: https://www.pegym.com/forums/beginners-forum/2166-jps-90-day-beginner-routine.html



Measurement Abbreviations and Acronyms: https://www.pegym.com/forums/beginners-forum/3420-measurement-abbreviations-acronyms.html



Kingpoles natural supplements and erection tea (1) https://www.pegym.com/forums/erectile-dysfunction-forum/10786-five-gs-big-erections.html

(2) https://www.pegym.com/forums/erectile-dysfunction-forum/3005-erection-tea.html



Warm up methods(with rice sock how to) : Penis Warm-Up Methods: Heating Up Before Working Out

Jelqing(how to): How to Jelq - Penis Exercise For Size and Hardness

V jelq video : V-Jelq - Penis Exercise For Size and Hardness

Big Al's sock hanger: https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-devices-forum/2821-make-penis-weight-hanger-routine.html


101 guides

Getting started 101(posting, and tool functions,etc): https://www.pegym.com/forums/beginners-forum/2260-getting-started-101-how-post-much-more.html

Edging 101: https://www.pegym.com/forums/pe-theory-science-forum/2802-edging-101-a.html

Ballooning 101: https://www.pegym.com/forums/erectile-dysfunction-forum/3153-ballooning-101-a.html

Fowfers 101: https://www.pegym.com/forums/beginners-forum/3601-bed-fowfers-101-a.html

Clamping 101: https://www.pegym.com/forums/site-announcements-questions/311-clamping-101-clamping-guide.html

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wicked stuff bro, Maybe add The five G,s and erection tea threads as well.Ill look around and see if there anymore really important threads worth posting, but man good stuff.
 

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Thanks boxer. Just post the link here on my log or through a PM to me, and I'll edit the list.

To anyone interested, I put the above quick list to help speed up the search process for the common links we always use. By putting them in one spot we won't have to search for each individual link when needed. Feel free to PM me with anything you might feel should be added.

ps. Post the link on the PM you send me.
 

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Waylander, man I think this deserves its own thread! Maybe in the beginner forum!
 

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I've done three sessions with the bathmate now. Here is some observations.

As I've tried it. Each session my EQ has gotten a little less. I'm chalking up some of it to being new to pumping, and new to the whole bath tub workout.
This last session, I had great difficulty getting and maintaining an erection before using it. Maybe it was the combo of making sure I put it on right, and worrying about being able to get erect?
I've noticed that each time I was falling a little short of the previous length measurment on the tube.Probably because of the EQ.

This last time, I Jelqed after the pump, instead of in between sets. Jelqing after, seemed to eliminate most of the plumpness I had gained from the pump, which was dissapointing.
The plumpness factor is sure motivating, and to lose it right away sucked. I don't know if thats normal, so I'll getup with Zen for advice.
 

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Sorry to hear the bathmate isnt working out so well with you, maybe you just need a little more time with it, Ill be watching your log to see your progress with this thing, if it works out in the end ill look into getting one,How much did this cost you?