Ultimate Jelqs (UJ) and Ultimate V's (UV)
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If you feel UJ's kick ass, UV's, compared to regular V's is much greater. Remember, your other hand is squeezing your fingers together, so you can apply as much or as little pressure as you want, for as long as you want. I switch hands after every 10 because I squeeze with a lot of force and my fingers that are being squeezed get a little sore. Sore, not tired, and that is key.
Maybe i don't do the UV right but i just cannot get the pressure i want out of it no matter how hard i clamp my fingers my dick will either "roll" or i just cant get that real power like the UJ offers.
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Keep working on your technique. Just got a pm from another guy who had similar issues. He laughs now because it was so easy to correct, but he struggled with it initially. Go down from the top, get your finger web deep into the grip, squeeze the fingers together, jelq. Be sure to use plenty of lube.
I have been doing Uv's for a while, and there's something which makes me think they may not work as well for me, when I do V jelqs or wet jelqs, the skin below my grip is white and the one above gets blatantly darker, when I do UV's, it does get really white beneath the grip, but above it quickly becomes average color, not like if it was blood filled (at least less than with regular V jelqs), I don't really know what's happening, is the blood vanishing under my hand or what? Also I always feel more plump after doing V jelqs, despite the fact that with UV's I get great girth expansion..
Well anyway I will keep them in my routine, maybe they just need a bit more time to show their effects..
Well anyway I will keep them in my routine, maybe they just need a bit more time to show their effects..
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You are doing something wrong. There is no possible way that using only the strength of your two fingers to squeeze themselves together will they be able to create greater pressure or allow less blood loss than two fingers being squeezed by the other hand. Assuming your unit is fully conditioned, use plenty of lube and squeeze those bad boys more firmly. Not everyone is into using a lot of force when jelqing, but when I do these I am squeezing the hell out of the jelqing fingers.
Yep I know, I still see great expansion, more than with v jelqs, but afterwards I feel like I get better results with V jelqs, and I have already done UV's with my pressure limit, which means at the end of an UV, when I get close to the head there is so much blood that it is unpleasant (obviously afterwards I eased on the grip), so I feel I'm doing my maximum for pressure. If I edge after a session of these I don't see temporary expansion as you do, and yes when I do it it's really white under the grip, but somehow after a few reps my whole penis looks generally not enough dark for my taste. I don't want to injure myself but I'll try to work on the pressure I apply and will give you a feedback. Maybe my problem is that I'm overdoing it.. But I should still notice temporary expansion. Additionnally, I have the feeling that UV's tend to be useless with 60% of EL or less, and become more and more efficient above, what do you recommend for EL , to increase girth most and avoid injuries?
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There is the possibility that by the time you get to your UV's (following your UJ set), your unit is getting overly tired. Since hitting your CC's has a greater impact on overall girth than your CS, I suggest you start off with UV's, followed by UJ's. I am basically using UJ's to increase the size of my CS, so it can still be hit hard even if your erection drops below 50%. On the other hand, UV's done much below 50% are less effective. Remember to ride your finger tips along your CS when doing UJ's. I do 100 UV's followed by 125 UJ's. Add or subtract as is practicable for yourself.
Ok thanks I'll definitely try that, also I'm a bit frightened about injuries but I'll try to increase the pressure a bit.
Hello I have 2 questions what is your cs and also when your jelqing with an ok sign are your index fingers supposed to be on the bottom of your shaft or the top because if I added middle finger to my jelq I would have to release it secon which would mean I may have been jelqing wrong this whole time I've been peing
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Penis Anatomy/Anatomy of the Male Penis/Penis Anatomy Picture
My finger tips ride my CS. As my middle finger reaches the glans I lift it up and finish the jelq with my index finger.
I seen this photo in a medical book just last week. Small world... or some medical guides are getting lazy. lol.
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rbi, i have some questions for you about the UJ's and UV's, and i would be very grateful if you had some time to answer them for me. i'm extremely intrigued by these exercises, and i have actually started doing them within the past week. i didnt make a pegym account until today, so i was just going by what you had previously posted and what i could read. first question: do you count a full rep as one stroke with both hands (like jonpop does in his jp90) or do u count 1 full rep as just one stroke with each hand? if u get what im asking... i think i may have a bad habit with overworking my unit, especially with jelqing.. i often end up with fluid buildup under my glans (donut effect). i noticed you said that you use a very firm grip while doing these exercises. I find that the firmer grip i use, the more donut effect i see after each jelq set. i don't have an issue with going to hard on the UV's though, man can i feel them work. with every rep i do i see veins in the top of my unit throbbing and getting fuller than ever before. my glans gets solid too, and i have found that it is useful for me to use my hand that is pinching my 2 fingers together as a support for the bottom of my unit during each jelq. basically, there's the obvious pressure being applied from the 2 sides (my fingers) and then pressure from the top (the webbing between my fingers) and then theres added pressure from the botton (the part of my hand between my thumb and index finger on my hand i'm using to pinch the other hand's fingers together). I press this area up against the bottom of my shaft as hard as i can while doing the UV, and i find it very effective. it also eliminates the problem that many people have with their unit twisting during UVs. How many UV's is too much? when i see my veins throbbing and feel my unit swelling and looking visibly bigger, i just want to keep going. with the UJ's, a lot of time i don't feel like its as effective as the UV. I get the beforementioned donut effect afterwards, and i have trouble trapping the blood in my shaft and out of the glans while i wrap my other hand's fingers around the base of my unit to start another stroke. every time i do a UJ, my glans is ROCK SOLID. i know this is probably a good thing, but i dont want just my glans to grow, i want my while unit to grow and expand as much as i can. I was thinking about just doing UV's from now on since i feel them to be the most effective, but i have read elsewhere that jelqs are necessary too. I really am striving for girth over everything.. I'm at 5.25 inches and i so badly want to be in the 6-6.25 range. I wouldn't mind some extra length too, but if i had to focus on one goal it would be girth. alot of times during my UJ's i'll go to apply my overhead ok grip to the base of my unit, and ill squeeze and i wont feel my unit expand further, because it feels hard and totally full of blood already... i dont know if this is normal or if this even makes sense to read (it makes sense in my head obviously).. but anyways enough out of me. thanks for taking the time to read this if you have, and any input you give me will be greatly appreciated.
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About your glans - the only way for your glans to get rock hard is by it being full of blood - and the only way it can be full of blood is by way of your shaft - thus your shaft is also getting a full workout. Your glans will not get ahead of your shaft. One jelq or two jelq per stroke count - doesn't matter at all how you count. The only thing that matters is that you are doing things correctly and not doing too many. Your unit will dictate that. I get the same trapping of blood under my glans when doing UV's, and it subsides rather quickly. Actually I have just started recently to use less moister when I am doing these jelqs. I am circumcised, and I am glad I am, however, I want to build up some extra skin at the base of my glans. When my wife is stroking me I want my skin to cover my glans as she strokes toward my glans. Use more moisture and lube if you want to minimize skin pull, and jelq in a downward direction. I suggest that you do your UV's first because they work your unit more, followed by UJ's. As I have mentioned my main goal with UJ's is to develop my CS, and you can accomplish that even if your unit is a little fatigued. UV's are less effective when done with your unit tired. Error on the side of doing too few, not too many. Give yourself at lease one day between sessions.
the only reason i asked the question about the reps is because i was going to go by what you said at the beginning of this thread.. 100 UVs and 100 UJs.. so i wanted to know how you count those so I would know, too. if you could clear that up for me thatd be great if u didnt mind.. also what are some signs that your unit has gotten a full workout and you should not keep going? thanks
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Each jelq I do I count as one (left/right = 2). Don't go by my numbers, I strongly suggest you go by how your unit feels. I now do 100 UV's and 125 UJ's, but that may be too many or too few for you. Try perhaps 50 UV's, 75 UJ's. See how you feel after that the next day, then adjust accordingly.
do you do stretching too after your warm up? also how do you tell (the next day) that your workout the previous day was suffice? better flaccid hang? soreness?
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Lack of any discomfort is factor number one - always. The increased thickness of my shaft after my sessions is also very telling. My unit is extremely plump when finished and can stay that way for a few hours. The sticky I put up in the beginners section regarding how to ease jelqing problems includes a list of ways to tell whether or not you have had a good session or whether or not your jelqing technique needs work. That criteria also applys to UJ's and UV's.
