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Same as there has been as he has been doing all along he has long ongoing history Cusp.
 

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Would you prefer to live in Hungry, it has a nice autocratic leader.
Elected by the people in a fair election but since he went to see Trump what else can you make up about him. Give it some thought and you'll come up with something.
 

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Umm Cusp many do not regard Hungary as a democracy the election of Orban is regarded as questionable . He is not well regarded by euro democracies over aa range of issues that you could google . Some regard him as a template for future action by elements within the US if it is to head in an autocratic direction .
He is regarded as a Rus proxy by many and may run into further and worsening issues with the EU and Nato.

Back on thread the Uke backed russians continue to hold areas around the Russian border reaching to Belograd . The Rus seem to be having issues dislodging them and are bombing etc . There is considerable destruction in border areas of Russia up to and including Belograd .
 
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Would you prefer to live in Hungry, it has a nice autocratic leader.
They have a better leader than we do. I have noticed that the phrase "Autocratic Leader" is thrown
around a lot by people that don't truly understand the meaning!
 

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Remind us again, when is Ukraine's election going to be?

Ukraine is anything but a democratic nation.
 

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Yeah the Euro are keen on autocratic for Putin for example .
When the war is over is a good time for a reall rather than sham election

Free Rus continue to hod significant area inside Russia . There is significant destruction inside this area .
 

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Why are there no elections in the democratic country of Ukraine? Why martial law and banning political parties? Is that what I have to spend money on? We've gone through a bunch of wars and never did that. Hell we had this thing called the Civil War when both sides were killing each other right here and we still had elections!!!!!
 

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The Ukranian Constitution calls for the Presidential election to be held in March 2024. However, the Constitution also precludes the election to be held during periods of martial law. Apparently, the Ukrainian government felt it would be to dangerous to suspend martial law in order to hold the election.
 

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The Ukrainian Government (The USA) knows that the little rat, Zelensky will get destroyed in an election and the puppet masters cannot allow that to happen.
 

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Zelenskyy won with 76% of the vote 5 years ago. I haven’t heard any reports that his popularity has declined since then.
 

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Wars do funny things that can be sorted after they end .

I see the Uke have done some damage to the Rus air force how much is not really yet apparent .
 

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There won't be any opposition in the news. Zelensky owns the media. He canceled elections and uses the military to round up any man between 16 and 60.

Very democratic
 

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I am going to worry about all that when the Rus leave Ukraine . They can do that at any time and bring this issue to the fore of western minds rather than to the fore of Rus propoganda .
 

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By the way if you want to worry about democracy in europe I suggest you look at the Rus shills Hungary and Bellarus .
 

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Why should I worry about democracy in Europe? don't think they can figure out what kind of government they want by themselves?
 

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I think most euro would argue they are doing better than the US re politics .

If you don't care why did you bring it up ? I am most certainly not into politics.
 

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By the way if you want to worry about democracy in europe I suggest you look at the Rus shills Hungary and Bellarus .
that's why