The Death Grip

[JamesMonroe]

Been reading a lot about guys saying they last long in bed and have delayed ejac because they masturbated for a long time with a very tight grip and no lube and watching porn. I know it's a bad thing to do all these things, but is there anything there that might help some of us? Is intense/tight mastirbation helpful to be able to handle soft, looser vaginas? what about them not using lube? I read it may desensitize you a bit because of the skin to skin contact, but as far as I know... lube is better because it feels more like a wet vagina. I know these things are not recommended, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.... is everyone affected differently?
Should we edge with a tighter grip and try to get used to that?

 

[JamesMonroe]

I do want to make it clear though... Porn is bad for premature ejaculation, erections and a proper sex life. It harmed me and many others. Many of us were cured by stopping masturbation to porn. Maybe edging with more/progressive intensity and a tighter grip WITH lube and NO porn is a good plan...

 

[Pegasus]

I had felayed ejac and I did use a tight grip, be carefull what you wish for.

 

[JamesMonroe]

Pegasus....
Glad you got over it.... but does this mean if people do this, they might last longer in bed?
Were you masturbating dry or wet?
This is getting interesting....
Maybe Some of us should give it a shot for a bit as a test....

Here is an article:

How to cure masturbation death grip

 

[JamesMonroe]

And now that I think about it Pegasus.... When I had prem ejac for a whole year without a gf watching porn without lube, I was using a very light grip. I have always used a light grip. Maybe a vagina was tighter than that when i started having sex, causing part of my prem ejac problem. Maybe people should increase the grip a bit and try to get used to that. I am going to edge again for a while with baby oil, no porn and a fairly tight grip and test myself with real sex. I will also completely stop masturbating to porn again and also start to do some more rev/reg kegels. I found myself addicted to masturbating quickly to porn again and i think I should stop before i get negative effects again. I think this might explain why missionary position isn't as arousing as doggy style and or anal sex because there is is a tighter pressure in the latter 2. That's why getting used to dodgy for me has helped to make the other positions easier. Have I tapped into something very important here that not many people talk about? I see there might be that connection between you having deleyed ejac and me having prem ejac with a light grip. Maybe all we have to do is find the middle ground and just increase out grips during edging a bit more! I'll let you guys know how that goes.....

 

[Pegasus]

dry..

 

[JamesMonroe]

How do you masturbate with a tight grip and NO lube? Thats why I had to have a light grip. I guess maybe you are not doing full strokes? We're you mainly rubbing the head? I found a way to masturbate with a harder grip but it's mainly like a twisting of mostly the head. Is that what you did? Also, it must be different for guys that all of the sudden have real sex with and without condoms. Would the reaction depend on whether they were using lube or not?

 

[JamesMonroe]

I would assume that most guys that masturbate dry to porn use condoms when they finally have sex. That would mean that they went from dry to dry so they are used to it. So... if you were to masturbate with a tight grip and with lube, as soon as you use a condom and have real sex, then it's not as arousing because with a condom you don't feel the arousing wetness.

 

[JamesMonroe]

I edged tonight with the death grip and baby oil and concentration on the penis head while I thrusted my hips forwards and backwards. WOW... that was intense! It took me back to my crazy experimental edging/ballooning days! It was pretty much my old python pressure-type technique/stroke.
I can see very easily how getting used to this constant type stimulation/edging could make it hard to ejaculate during sex. I did it without porn and it was still so intense that I ejaculated in about 10 minutes. I'm gonna keep trying it without porn and see if it helps sex with my gf. I'm already very excited and hopeful about this. Great thing about this is that I was doing hard reverse kegels at the same time so it's also a great workout! I have a feeling that if I keep this up and still do regular kegels once in a while, it will be the perfect mix. I read that PumpSon! was also experimenting with a tight grip and lube with great results. He said he felt he was getting closer to deleyed ejac during edging.
I know Pegasus.... this is sounding bad to you, but don't worry... I won't let it get to that extent and I think I might be onto something great here in the form of exercises outside of sex!

 

[JamesMonroe]

I found my old post. It is the python palm pressure thing I'm doing again. Here it is:


https://www.pegym.com/forums/premat...ng-techniques-advanced-edgers-ballooners.html

 

[Koh]

Well I use a moderately firm grip, not too light, not a death grip. I can't test out the effectiveness to the real deal, seeing how I don't have a girl I can sex up at the moment. I just hope I'm heading in the right direction.

 

[JamesMonroe]

Bump. (Vets and Delayed Ejac guys please comment)

 

[bored]

In my teens I used a death grip during masturbation. Sometimes with porn sometimes without. I can last as long as I want during sex. Pegasus is right though, be careful what you wish for because sometimes I can't even cum during sex without pulling out and using the grip for a bit.

 

[steveshorny1]

Tight grip feels very intense when i'm edging. I try to get tightish without it feeling too intense. Some days are easier than others. I thought the idea is to make it feel as awesome as possible, while still trying to control arousal, thereby prolonging ejaculation. Well, that's my intent anyhow. When it feels too intense, I just back off with a looser grip.
I always use lube. I just cant rub the glans without lube, I'm just too sensitive. Although the regular edging has helped reduce sensitivity just a little.

 

[QuickTrigger]

Curious and curiouser...

Sometimes when edging and approaching the PONR, I'll give myself a firm squeeze at the base of my cock. That seems to instantly drop my arousal level. So... I got the idea of experimenting with a cock ring. I only got it the other day and will use it tonight.

Perhaps this is somehow related to your death-grip technique. Perhaps not. Either way, I'm watching this thread... :boom:

 

[JamesMonroe]

The Deathgrip is related to and causes deleyed ejaculation, so I'm currently experimenting with it(with real sex also) to see if it can help people last longer without going to far to where it is a negative thing. To tell you te truth, if I have to exit vagina and masturbate to ejac, l'll be ok with that as long as I can last a long time to be able to pleasure my girl very well. i will watch closely for negative signs. This might just help everyone. I will keep you all posted. Please keep commenting guys... this seems like a good one.

 

[rko]

Wow I'd never thought of this. I always masturbated to porn with a light grip. Could really be on to something here JM.

 

[capital255]

This very interesting James and Pegasus. I think the death grip can be good thing only for advance edging just like James would say. Probably at least a few weeks for you body to get accustom to edging and then apply a more tighter grip. Obvious this technique will train our bodys and minds to make things easier when we are having sex with a girl who has a tight vagina and someone like most of us who have PE. Look at, if we train like this even though I tried this only a few times during edging which is very intense. This can make things easier when getting ready in the bedroom for sex. Just like for example if taking a 7 grader who practice playing basketball with basketball high school teenagers over a period of time will make him better. So when he actually plays within his age level, his brain, body, nervous system, etc will be way better to adjust and be able to dominate because he was practicing with people with more advance skills then his age level. So this can also apply to the death grip..can make our body's be able to last longer when having sex..This technique can be very effective i believe, but again i haven't had sex in a few months to experiment if this would work but hopefully soon. So again maybe this can be done in moderation to last longer but again you don't want to have no ejaculation at all too.

 

[JamesMonroe]

I am very excited about it.
I hope this is the answer to most of us, AS LONG AS WE DON'T OVERDO IT AND MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE WITH REVERSE KEGELS AND ESPECIALLY REGULAR KEGELS FOR GOOD ERECTION QUALITY.
I stopped edging for like 6 months because I have constant sex now so I only tried it one night. I will try to "death grip edge" as much as I can and I can totally test it with my gf so I'll let you guys know. I feel it will work because of the proof of death grip use we have from guys with Deleyed Ejac and because I know from experience that getting used to the craziest exercises/sexual positions/arousing situations is what trains you well for real sex.
I also noticed and remembered that I masturbated with a very light grip when I had Prem Ejac.
:0)

 

[JamesMonroe]

(part 2, scroll up for part 1)
It's like the ultimate edge/balloon combo exercise, for experienced edgers and ballooners, ofcourse. Please scroll up and read the Python Palm Pressure post I posted a long time ago. I suggest you guys just experiment with your penis and try all kinds of ways to stroke and rub it while using a tight grip. I suggest you use twists and close/tighten your palm at the head on the upstroke till your head is out of your hand and your empty fist is infront of your exposed penis head. Get it?
I did it standing up, used baby oil and I was thrusting my hips.
It was supper intense!!!!!