The Death Grip

[JamesMonroe]

A soft to moderate grip would work just fine, its the duration of the masturbation that develops the stamina.

Thanx Kingpole, but I think we might disprove that theory soon based on the information and experiences we are gathering and testing. We'll let you know. I personally can say for sure that increased intensity and pressure in edging, ballooning and sex has made me last longer... not the length of edging. I was able to edge for an hour but as soon as I had sex I ejaculated in under a minute. I didn't see a difference until I trained hard with sex and got my penis used to intense sex with tougher and tighter positions on the penis such as doggy and woman ontop and me on top with heavy pressure/rubing.

 

[TruuCamp]

Interesting topic , let me add my piece.

My first month on this forum I was doing penis growth and premature ejaculation cure at the same time.
I learned about the "jelq" technique and during my first month of arousal training I would jelq at the end.

So I wasnt masturbating but the "jelqing" resembled the tighter grip or masturbation been discussed here.
Anyways the results.

On nights that I woud jelq , my lasting time during sex the next day was as long as I wanted or pass the 20mins mark.
Now why did I stop doing it ? I already have a large package and my girlfriend was complaining about discomfort during sex.

 

[QuickTrigger]

Interesting topic , let me add my piece.

My first month on this forum I was doing penis growth and premature ejaculation cure at the same time... On nights that I woud jelq , my lasting time during sex the next day was as long as I wanted or pass the 20mins mark.

TruuCamp, how bad was your premature ejaculation? Upon penetration? Within a minute? Within 5? And it sounds like you cured yourself in a short amount of time. How did you go from pre-e to a 20minute marathon man?

 

[TruuCamp]

It varied for me , run between 2-5mins

 

[ThreeOne]

Hey James!

Just filling you in as I spotted your post. I think we both come from opposite sides of the spectrum and my habits may help you gain some insight about how to work on premature ejaculation.

I'm currently 25 years old, been masturbating since I was old enough to, maybe 13 or 14, somewhere then. I'm uncut.

I've always masturbated with an iron grip, dry and if possible, to porn. I didnt know it at the time, but my first 10 or so sexual partners I either faked it or straight up told them theyve got very little chance of making me climax and once they were satisfied we would stop. It took me a very long time to realise, I hated sex, thought something was wrong with me. Even if I pretended I could cum during sex, it didnt work. I'd literally go until I had no energy and the girl was completely raw, tried many different ways, it never helped, even without condoms (in an exclusive relationship, not for fuck buddies). I ended up asking my friends what the deal was, if they had the same problems...no one did.

Anyway, one day people are chatting on 4chan and I see a guy talking about having the exact same thing. I never post on there, largely go for the funny pics of cats and stuff, but here it was, some guy with the same issue. He said hed been masturbating with an iron grip and couldnt break out of the habit, sex was very unsatisfying. He said the iron grip was the cause... I couldnt believe this is what it took for me to make the connection. Granted, it gave me a great rep with the girls, theyd always leave satisfied because without getting my fun, I was free to concentrate on making their experience the best I could.

The guy said he stopped masturbating for months. He never touched it once. Some sensitivity came back. Since then, hes been very gentle and he had been able to climax once or twice with a girl. He never used lube while masturbating, nor did I.

So, what we did to become SO desensitised that we ended up having epic (and unwanted) staying power? Iron grip, daily more than once, no lube.

I dont want this to read like im proud. I am not. It was horrible, still is. I've only ever had 1 girl work on it with me and in the end I still couldnt climax about 1/3rd of the time once we got to our peak of performance....that took 2 years.

So, if you overdo it and become desensitised, perhaps try what me and this anonymous stranger did, just stop playing with it for a while and eventually youll enjoy sex a bit more again. I never had premature ejaculation, but the iron grip sure affected my staying power, so I would say it supports your idea to some extent, as once I eased off, I did get more sensation and quicker ejaculation times.

That being said, the target of being so desensitised where you have to pull out and finish yourself off....I wouldnt go with that as a target. I've been that guy. Girls dont expect it, they dont like the sight of the guy they were having sex with mere moments ago in a grimace of self-abuse, raking his penis with a claw in a vice grip like a pit bull gripping on a chew toy. Dont pretend it's normal, I even tried putting a game face on....it made me look more psychotic than casual about the whole affair

Just go for a point where you have to really pump away for a long time in order to climax, I've managed to more or less get to that point and I never climax without the conscious decision to go ahead and I still last as long as I want with girls, in fact, the first few times with any girl I usually just dont, simply because my mind has to be in the right place with them before I can. Maybe adjust your goal, but thats my personal experience talking and I dont want you to feel like I'm calling you out or anything, everyone has their own preference, goals and ideals...but I'm in a situation which youre aiming for and I dont particularly like it.

EDIT: This all being said, nowadays, I'm looking at penis enlargement. My vice grip over the years (and currently) has never given me great erection quality for a significant time afterwards, so I have to be sure to not masturbate for some time before any chance I might get lucky. The vice grip hampers my recovery between workouts, potentially moreso than people who masturbate with a medium or light grip and I cant ejaculate without it now, so as youll see in my log, I just try to refrain from masturbation whatsoever, which is difficult when you have it as a lifetime habit to masturbate when you get up, when you get in and when you go to bed.

 

[JamesMonroe]

@ ThreeOne:
Thank you for your post.... and yes.... If you scroll up you will see that I said that if people wanna experiment with this that they shouldn't overdo it. Just enough to make a positive change. As for the lube... it may or may not have something to do with it. It might just be the grip of death since wet masturbation woth lube helps prem ejac by mimicking a wet vagina. We'll see....
I'm excited for all of us.

 

[Pegasus]

How are you going with lightening your grip Threeone?

 

[Pegasus]

Umm jm this was 30 years ago and I didn't know then what I know now.
I did train myself with lighter masturbation and increased kegels particularly within sex. Also decrease ejaculation frequency prior to sex so that I caould get off easier and a lot of vigor and control within sex.

I can't answer for JM but I have a long history of pre e coaching despite never having it myself.

I had this issue Threeone .

 

[capital255]

Are you saying it was a good thing? Are you saying that it is more intense for you, so getting used to that intensity is better training? That is actually what I am trying to prove. Sorry, I didn't quite understand the meaning of your post.

Doing the death grip is ok when doing it in moderation. Reason I said that it's ok cuz it will slowly desensitize your Dick but at the same time it can damage it as well and probably make it limp. So what I meant was that it can be a pro to doing this to delay ejaculation but a con that it can possibly make damage as well. So I would try this not so often

 

[JamesMonroe]

Doing the death grip is ok when doing it in moderation. Reason I said that it's ok cuz it will slowly desensitize your Dick but at the same time it can damage it as well and probably make it limp. So what I meant was that it can be a pro to doing this to delay ejaculation but a con that it can possibly make damage as well. So I would try this not so often

Yes... that's why I posted early-on that people should not overdo it and keep up regular kegels and even penis enlarging exercises to keep good erections and blood circulation. Another reason why it might be good to do the death grip with lube. It might help avoid major skin/nerve/desensitation.

 

[Going411x7]

A soft to moderate grip would work just fine, its the duration of the masturbation that develops the stamina.

Oh, Kingpole!! My dear friend!! You're back!! You're back!! I can't tell you how happy I am to read your words!! I've had three eye surgeries
since December--one more to go. :hug:

 

[JamesMonroe]

Interesting topic , let me add my piece.

My first month on this forum I was doing penis growth and premature ejaculation cure at the same time.
I learned about the "jelq" technique and during my first month of arousal training I would jelq at the end.

So I wasnt masturbating but the "jelqing" resembled the tighter grip or masturbation been discussed here.
Anyways the results.

On nights that I woud jelq , my lasting time during sex the next day was as long as I wanted or pass the 20mins mark.
Now why did I stop doing it ? I already have a large package and my girlfriend was complaining about discomfort during sex.

Thanx TruuCamp.... that is great info and yet more proof about the results of a tighter grip. I too believe that the jelqing and other penis exercises of penis enlarging exercises, which mostly use tight grips, are one of the reasons I got over prem ejac.
PLEASE SCROLL UP AND READ ALL PAGES AND POSTS ON THIS THREAD BEFORE YOU GIVE YOUR OPINION GUYS.... YOU MIGHT HAVE MISSED SOMETHING.

Thanx.

 

[lelengzai]

i want to ask why i can't death grip mastabei without lube?
i mean when i grip my penis very tight, it's impossible to move without lube !
is it because i cut my foreskin when i'm 13 ?

 

[JamesMonroe]

i want to ask why i can't death grip mastabei without lube?
i mean when i grip my penis very tight, it's impossible to move without lube !
is it because i cut my foreskin when i'm 13 ?

I am cut too. I assume guys just have their hand move WITH the skin like people do with dry jelqing. It's possible even if you are cut. I can do it. There are ways to do a tight grip and mainly rub/focus on the top part of the shaft and penis head, but I suggest to do it WITH lube instead as it might not just be about using lubr or not. It could just be that you are using a tight grip, since using lube mimics a vagina better than dry masuirbation.

 

[JamesMonroe]

Btw.... if you scroll up you will see how jelqing(a tight grip) has helped a person here last longer te next day when he has sex. He has made that connection because it happens everytime.
I too believe penis exercises lile jelqing ans stretching have helped me fight prem ejac because of the tight grips and stimulation/rubbing. Infact, I was doing them as I was starting to last longer in bed. I think they had something to do with my success. They also help with circulation, good erections, erection size and having a nice flaccid hang. I definitely recommend them.

 

[capital255]

Interesting topic , let me add my piece.

My first month on this forum I was doing penis growth and premature ejaculation cure at the same time.
I learned about the "jelq" technique and during my first month of arousal training I would jelq at the end.

So I wasnt masturbating but the "jelqing" resembled the tighter grip or masturbation been discussed here.
Anyways the results.

On nights that I woud jelq , my lasting time during sex the next day was as long as I wanted or pass the 20mins mark.
Now why did I stop doing it ? I already have a large package and my girlfriend was complaining about discomfort during sex.

Camp,

How many times a week/duration did you jelq? Was it 5min, 10, etc. I used to Jelq awhile back for a few times but i wasn't consistent because I wasn't getting erection normally everyday and it was kinda scary. After a few days I started getting erections again even tho I was doing jelqs every other day for about 5mins.

 

[JamesMonroe]

There's a new guy that just mentioned that he got prem ejac from a light grip and NO lube, even while having a GF. He said that using lube and a tighter grip has helped him add minutes.

 

[JamesMonroe]

Great Death Grip session lastnight. 12 straight minutes of hard long stroke thrusting on my knees, simulating doggy-style. Baby oil is awesome. Might start not ejaculating at the end to treat it like a balloon session and to have a nice hang afterwards.

 

[KingJR]

I think I'll get in on this experiment as well. As it's one aspect that I haven't tested either.

 

[JamesMonroe]

Looks promising since most people I talk to with Delayed Ejaculation say they always used a right grip and people with Premature Ejaculation used a light grip, including myself. Use of lube or not is another issue worth testing/figuring out. I'm doing it with lube just incase beacuse I read that it's better for Prem Ejac.