The Advanced "Jelq Free" Routine

[Big Al]

Big Al, generally speaking, how effective do you think the jelq ACTUALLY is? You're right that the majority of routines use jelqs as their main exercise, but it can't just be a coincidence. Obviously those people found it to be effective and useful at all levels of PE. I've done PE for practically a year but haven't made any gains, so I'm going to go ahead and give this routine a try. However, I'm sort of contemplating whether or not to throw a few (5-10) minutes of jelqing in there as well. What do you think? Is jelqing really necessary or would it just be a waste of time for me to do?

In the first post of this thread, I wrote:

One thing I've noticed is the amount of internet penis enlargement programs out there touting the "jelq" as their main exercise- and claiming it's "the best." Don't get me wrong... it's a good exercise, but in the long run, not THE best!

Some men do fine training with the jelq for the life of their training, but (IMO) a large majority of advanced trainees seem to need more intense exercises (or something altogether different) for more substantial or quicker gains.

 

[Big Al]

And also, you say to do 1000 side stretches. In your video, you touched your right thigh, then left thigh, then straight out and then down. Would that be considered 1 rep or 4 reps?

The 1000 count is a recommended maximum. You should only be doing what you can handle in one sitting and add a few reps each session. Touching one side equals one rep, and the slight pull downwards is part of the transition point. Think of it like a pendulum- each "tick" counts as one rep.

 

[MyNameIsChris]

The 1000 count is a recommended maximum. You should only be doing what you can handle in one sitting and add a few reps each session. Touching one side equals one rep, and the slight pull downwards is part of the transition point. Think of it like a pendulum- each "tick" counts as one rep.

So a rep is every time you touch your thigh? When I jelq, I notice my penis is usually more "fattened up" and that my EQ is generally higher than if I don't do it. I'm going to do your routine, but do you think it's possible to maybe fit 5-10 minutes of jelqing in there as well? If so, would you do it at the beginning, before the side stretch/after squeeze or at the end? I've also heard some people claiming edging at the end is a good idea. What do you think?

 

[Samurai]

Could someone answer this question for me. The guy in the videos demonstrating the stretches and other exercises, his penis....is it flaccid? I mean like even if it's a little erect, it looks fricken huuuge!!! Surely he was huge before he started PE. Oh another question, does anyone on this site actually have a flaccid like this? I'm over 4" flaccid, which makes me a shower but this guy looks around 7+" flaccid. I was a little scared of it!!!

 

[MyNameIsChris]

Yeah I was wondering the same thing. But yeah I think it's flaccid because Big Al said you're not supposed to do these exercises erect. Don't worry, I thought the same thing when I first saw it lol

 

[Big Al]

So a rep is every time you touch your thigh?

In this instance, yes. I say this because some trainees may not count each touch as 1 rep (much like some trainees regard a jelq stroke with each hand as 1 rep).

When I jelq, I notice my penis is usually more "fattened up" and that my EQ is generally higher than if I don't do it. I'm going to do your routine, but do you think it's possible to maybe fit 5-10 minutes of jelqing in there as well? If so, would you do it at the beginning, before the side stretch/after squeeze or at the end? I've also heard some people claiming edging at the end is a good idea. What do you think?

If you're going to do jelqs, I'd recommend about 100 reps maximum; and they could be done immediately prior to squeezes as a transitional form of exercise between the stretch and the squeeze. I highly advise finishing off your training with edging/Stop and Starts.

Given the above details, your training format would appear like this:

Warm up > Side to Side > Jelqs > Squeezes > Kegels > Stop and Starts

 

[Big Al]

Could someone answer this question for me. The guy in the videos demonstrating the stretches and other exercises, his penis....is it flaccid? I mean like even if it's a little erect, it looks fricken huuuge!!! Surely he was huge before he started PE. Oh another question, does anyone on this site actually have a flaccid like this? I'm over 4" flaccid, which makes me a shower but this guy looks around 7+" flaccid. I was a little scared of it!!!

That's a very good question. Most stretches should be done flaccid, but the gentleman in the video is either an extreme "shower" or he's doing the exercises with a high degree of erection for visual effect.

 

[Spera]

what are your thougts on ejaculating? If I do it during the day, even if it is several hours before, it hurts when I'm doing PE. My penis gets kind of sore just from ejaculating..

 

[Big Al]

what are your thougts on ejaculating? If I do it during the day, even if it is several hours before, it hurts when I'm doing PE. My penis gets kind of sore just from ejaculating..

If that's happening to you then you should save your ejaculations for edging and sexual encounters. How are your stamina levels?

 

[Spera]

That depends on when I ejaculated since, but I have not praticed kegels for a while so I guess my stamina levels could be higher. But I have started doing them because I thought it might help my recovery and that it might make my penis more robust so that it does not get sore.
I have not experienced premature ejaculation, but maybe that is just because I know when to stop before I ejaculate. And maybe because I ejaculate rather often (one a day).
Do you think the problem comes from my kegel-strength? Like if an unconditioned person works out, then he gets much more sore that a person who has been working out for a long time?

 

[Spera]

Also I have not had any gains even though I have been doing PEs for several months. But that could be because of reasons like, not sticking to the same routine for very long, many weeks only got the PEs done 4 times a week, maybe 3. Also I have found it hard to find the right routine that is at my level, because I don't know wether I am a beginner og intermediate or advanced, because I have done PEs for a very long time, but never consistently, so I find it hard to define my experience.

 

[Lazy 8]

That's a very good question. Most stretches should be done flaccid, but the gentleman in the video is either an extreme "shower" or he's doing the exercises with a high degree of erection for visual effect.

At the rate he's going, he's going to need some extender rods for his arms!

 

[Big Al]

at the rate he's going, he's going to need some extender rods for his arms!

 

[Jeff Powers]

I just wanted to check in and see how this program has been going for you guys. How have you structured your routine with days on/off, stretching and doing the squeeze? As for me, I've gained just a bit in length. I'm almost up to 7.25" now (up from exactly 7") NBP. As for the girth, I'm still stuck on 5.25" mid/5.6 base.

I do the stretches about 5 days per week. After a warm up, I end up doing several sets of 50 until I end up with around 300-400 total side to side stretches. After reading the TGC theory thread, I backed off of girth/clamping/jelqing for a while to focus on length. Big Al's side to side stretches have been great! Now that I'm approaching my length goal, I want to give the girth a real shot! I've got to move past my 5.25" mid/5.6 base plateau!! Girth has been really stubborn for me in the past with clamping/jelqing. I get great expansion up to nearly 6", but it won't cement into permanent gains.

 

[mystic wolf]

I just wanted to check in and see how this program has been going for you guys. How have you structured your routine with days on/off, stretching and doing the squeeze? As for me, I've gained just a bit in length. I'm almost up to 7.25" now (up from exactly 7") NBP. As for the girth, I'm still stuck on 5.25" mid/5.6 base.

I do the stretches about 5 days per week. After a warm up, I end up doing several sets of 50 until I end up with around 300-400 total side to side stretches. After reading the TGC theory thread, I backed off of girth/clamping/jelqing for a while to focus on length. Big Al's side to side stretches have been great! Now that I'm approaching my length goal, I want to give the girth a real shot! I've got to move past my 5.25" mid/5.6 base plateau!! Girth has been really stubborn for me in the past with clamping/jelqing. I get great expansion up to nearly 6", but it won't cement into permanent gains.

Hey jeff congrats for your gains first! I have a question for you about temporary gains..how do you manage to get to 6 inches girth after your girth routine??? I never experienced temporary gains (maybe some very micro gains ..like 1-2 mm...) even after 200 jelqs... could you show me your typical girth workout that make you to get this temporary gains please?? btw I think the more the temporary gains the more the tissue elasticity that is a good thing but to cement gains you need to have stiffer tissues IMO...

 

[Jeff Powers]

I do clamping on two days per week, for example Monday and Thursday. I'll do 3 sets of 10-12 minutes each set. After a set is over, I'll remove the clamp for a couple of minutes, then re-set it and do another set. After 3 sets like this, I am expanded to nearly 6 inches. The problem with me is that on my non-clamping days, my girth is still the same 5.25 mid shaft and 5.6 base. It hasn't changed in a long time. Maybe I should drop clamping and go with Big Al's "squeeze" exercise as a change of pace?

 

[mystic wolf]

maybe you have to give squezees a try.. another thing... is that girth expansion due to fluid (plump skin) ???

 

[Jeff Powers]

I don't notice any major fluid building up. It just swells while maintaining hardness. My "issue" has been how to transfer the temporary gains into permanent gains. Maybe I need to do squeezes 3 or 4 days per week? I"m hoping someone here will see my question about this and give me some direction.

 

[BigRooster]

The 1000 count is a recommended maximum. You should only be doing what you can handle in one sitting and add a few reps each session. Touching one side equals one rep, and the slight pull downwards is part of the transition point. Think of it like a pendulum- each "tick" counts as one rep.

This answers my question. Thanks

 

[Big Al]

This answers my question. Thanks

You're welcome