Surgically Confirmed: BUCK'S Fascia tear CAN cause HF like symptoms

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Surgery sounds horrible...but if you break it down logically...its not that invasive. Its similar to a circumcision (which Ive had at 14-15). I was out 4-6 weeks and some harsh pain in the first week but it subsided. They only cut through the skin and dartos fascia and thats it.

and Ive talked to OP and he says that his hard flaccid/large flaccid appears to be gone and he has been getting erectiosn from thought. But its still kind of early to see if the erectile issues are gone.

Seriously. If this was a 360 degree tear of the fascia and was 100% physical why would it make any difference if it was a though induced erection or a wet pussy on your face erection?
If it was 100% physical 360 degree tear the dick wouldn't function full stop.

Guys cant get erection from thought because thier thoughts are infected by bullshit like this.

That bears absolutely no logic or sense.
 

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Seriously. If this was a 360 degree tear of the fascia and was 100% physical why would it make any difference if it was a though induced erection or a wet pussy on your face erection?
If it was 100% physical 360 degree tear the dick wouldn't function full stop.

Guys cant get erection from thought because thier thoughts are infected by bullshit like this.

That bears absolutely no logic or sense.

Well, I'm guessing that it has something to do with the fact that there are 4 factors that play into an erection: neural, psychological, vascular and hormonal. An attractive girl right in front of you causes a huge spike in your hormones, which cause an erection. Simply using thoughts isn't enough to produce this same hormonal spike and because hard flaccid causes impaired blood flow, its not enough to produce strong erections using thought only. This back and forth is pointless. I will agree that in a few weeks time, we will know if this surgery has helped him fully recover. He still cannot have sex but he did say his hard flaccid and large and extended flaccid seems to be gone but he's not 100% sure yet. If it didn't help...then whatever i'm wrong and ill admit it.
 

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mikecares;11trying to 02 said:
Well, I'm guessing that it has something to do with the fact that there are 4 factors that play into an erection: neural, psychological, vascular and hormonal. An attractive girl right in front of you causes a huge spike in your hormones, which cause an erection. Simply using thoughts isn't enough to produce this same hormonal spike and because hard flaccid causes impaired blood flow, its not enough to produce strong erections using thought only. This back and forth is pointless. I will agree that in a few weeks time, we will know if this surgery has helped him fully recover. He still cannot have sex but he did say his hard flaccid and large and extended flaccid seems to be gone but he's not 100% sure yet. If it didn't help...then whatever i'm wrong and ill admit it.

I dig mike. Im not trying to say youre wrong and im right.
I genuinely believe this operation never happened.
The theory behind it may well be sound but it just most likely never happened.
Even if its unsuccessful and op is still fucked, this is serious medicinal science and needs to be 100% proved to be legit.
You dont get medical scientific facts through a skype chat wuth a 20 year old kid who apparently stumped up $4000 in three weeks for the many faced god to perform a surgery he invented 3 weeks prior.
Ive said it before and I will say it again, you are more likely to pull your dick clean off than tear 360 degrees around the fascia.

Imagine the force at the time of this hypothetical tear.
It would be a catastrophic injury.

The way you say op describes it the dick is like made of lego or some sh*t.
 

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I dig mike. Im not trying to say youre wrong and im right.
I genuinely believe this operation never happened.
The theory behind it may well be sound but it just most likely never happened.
Even if its unsuccessful and op is still fucked, this is serious medicinal science and needs to be 100% proved to be legit.
You dont get medical scientific facts through a skype chat wuth a 20 year old kid who apparently stumped up $4000 in three weeks for the many faced god to perform a surgery he invented 3 weeks prior.
Ive said it before and I will say it again, you are more likely to pull your dick clean off than tear 360 degrees around the fascia.

Imagine the force at the time of this hypothetical tear.
It would be a catastrophic injury.

The way you say op describes it the dick is like made of lego or some sh*t.

u got the whole story backwards and clearly mistaken. I talked to op months before he got the surgery and he has been booking appointment with urologists and stated that he got reffered to a urologist that was from a medical university before he even got the surgery. This was the guy who operated on him. He didn't "stump up $4000 in three weeks." His parents supported him and he has been booking and getting referred to these appointments for a few months.
 

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Ok. Im wrong about where he got the dollar. But the thing about 4 factors of the erection is a bit like the fire triangle with feul oxygen and heat. Take one away and there is no fire.
If your dick is physically broken it wont work full stop.
Its not rocket science is it?
I think the blood flow hormone spike thing you say is right and again points to muscular tension. ie the ordinary pre injury dopamine release is not enough to to create the increased bloodflow required against the more tensed muscles.
The erection is very tight because of the ordinary dopamine blood flow increase forcing erection against tighter muscle and tissue.
You lose erection because the body doesn't like to force things, it feels the muscular resistance and gives up.
I relate totally to your symptoms but not your solutions.
I am 100% not an advocate for pe and im mot buddys with all the veteran guys on this forum and I dont give a fuck about other people's dicks but I think this stinks of pork.
And until there is proof or op stops using you as a ventriloquist I will continue to call bullshit on the whole thing.
It literally takes 15 minutes out of my day but until someone else takes over the torch of doubt I will say.
This is a tall tall tale.
And nothing more.
360 tear?
Make it the first question you put to your tutor when you start physio school.
For real.
And peace man.
This was never an argument. Its a healthy debate.
 

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mithicke1135568 said:
u got the whole story backwards and clearly mistaken. I talked to op months before he got the surgery and he has been booking appointment with urologists and stated that he got reffered to a urologist that was from a medical university before he even got the surgery. This was the guy who operated on him. He didn't "stump up $4000 in three weeks." His parents supported him and he has been booking and getting referred to these appointments for a few months.

The plot thickens.
I didn't get the story backwards.
If this is true a medical university would not charge him for the operation and would more likely pay him if they thought it was a worthwhile procedure to persue and investigate.
You don't have to pay to be a medical guineapig it happens the other way round.

'A medical university' is a generic bullshit term'
'A surgeon'

What you are saying and he is saying is that he paid 4000 to participate in a medical trial he invented 3 weeks prior to the operation.

I dont work in medicine but im an assosiate lecturer in fine art and western design and have worked in several universities. (I hang my head in shame for indulging this bullshit) that is not the way it works.
This would take years to pass research stage.
Honestly mike. Years.
 

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The plot thickens.
I didn't get the story backwards.
If this is true a medical university would not charge him for the operation and would more likely pay him if they thought it was a worthwhile procedure to persue and investigate.
You don't have to pay to be a medical guineapig it happens the other way round.

'A medical university' is a generic bullshit term'
'A surgeon'

What you are saying and he is saying is that he paid 4000 to participate in a medical trial he invented 3 weeks prior to the operation.

I dont work in medicine but im an assosiate lecturer in fine art and western design and have worked in several universities. (I hang my head in shame for indulging this bullshit) that is not the way it works.
This would take years to pass research stage.
Honestly mike. Years.

By medical university urologist i just meant a urologist that works at a hospital and teaches at a university...aka more expertise/experience. I'm seeing one on September and one in November as well
 

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Muscular tension is a side effect from the main problem. my shaft has always been hard no matter what I've done. I honesty think my 6 week abstinence spiked my hormones and allowed me to have super strong erections and now they have just been dying away no matter what I do.
 

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Hi PErs, I ve read this thread, but it is little hazy for me, What is the exact method to determine if i tore my deep fascia or not?
 

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Hi PErs, I ve read this thread, but it is little hazy for me, What is the exact method to determine if i tore my deep fascia or not?

There isn't one and its most most most unlikely that you did.
This thread is actually bullshit untill op returns with some kind of proof that this actually happened.
Most likely you have typical hf.
 

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There isn't one and its most most most unlikely that you did.
This thread is actually bullshit untill op returns with some kind of proof that this actually happened.
Most likely you have typical hf.

How does one recover from "typical HF?" Even though I was getting hard ons good for sex, it still wasn't the same. It's almost as mysterious to me as how this surgery is mysterious to you.
 

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Has anyone been talking to majorwang besides myself?
 

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I have talked to him but not to much
 

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What are the latest news about MajorWang? Surgery results??? How is he?
 

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What are the latest news about MajorWang? Surgery results??? How is he?

Last time I Talked with him was september 3rd and he said her was recovering well. He hasn't responded since...so just waiting and seeing
 

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Well I have an update. Just finished an appointment with a top university medical urologist and he told me that likely no urologist in Canada would perform an exploratory surgery to check this fascia thing (which he thinks is a scam). He referred me to the top Ed urologist in ontario but he said he thinks it be unlikely he'd do anything as well.

Moral of the story is that if u live in Canada it doesn't look good. USA seems like a better hope but major wang needs to update us
 

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Even if MajorWang does not recover, it doesn't 100 percent prove that he didn't have a torn buck's fascia- stitching the buck's fascia back together might not even completely restore it's original function. Second, if even he didn't actually have a torn buck's fascia, it just eliminates the possibility that a torn buck's fascia is causing the problem, but does nothing to prove that the problem is from a pelvic floor spasm or anxiety. If anything, for the many who have tried the go to treatments and seen zero benefit, pelvic floor spasms and anxiety have been much more thoroughly disproved than torn buck's fascia.
 

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Dopamine relaxes muscles.
Thats why your erections are constricted and libido is sometimes low.
There are many aspects to hf but surgery isnt one of them.
That's true - but it also depends on how much dopamine is converting into Noradrenaline - which is why Zinc and folic acid are necessary - they help stop the conversion of dopamine INTO noradrenaline ; maintaining it's vasodilator effects...hence every man should supplement or MAKE SURE they are getting ENOUGH Zinc and Selenium and folate in their diet...so you could eat crab legs a couple times a week; some spinach, kale and some brazil nuts a few times a week - that should do the trick!

Folate we can get from beets, cabbage and leafy greens ; particularly dark ones..and sweet potatoes contain tons of folate as well as other important phytochemicals!
 

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Penile fracture occurs during erection, as the expansion of
the corpora stretches the tunica albuginea and renders it
thinner and more vulnerable to trauma. Although the diagnosis
of penile fracture is often based on history and physical
examination, imaging can be particularly useful when
the clinical picture is not fully clear and when planning the
type of surgical approach. Among the radiological investigation,
USS is the most widely used, as it is readily available
and relatively inexpensive. However, although this form of
imaging is highly specific in detecting a fracture, it is not
very sensitive for detecting a cavernosal tear (6, 8, 9). On
the contrary, MRI scan of the penis is highly sensitive at
detecting the exact location of the tunical tear and allows
the surgeon to chose the best surgical approach. Therefore,
although more expensive and not always readily available
in the acute setting, MRI should be considered the gold
standard diagnostic investigation in case of suspected
penile fracture.Although penile degloving is the most commonly
used surgical approach, as it allows visualizing and
inspecting adequately all the corpora cavernosa and urethra,
it can be very morbid, due to the presence of diffuse
bruising and edema of the Dartos fascia. As 2/3 of fractures
occur all the way down on the proximal aspect of the shaft,
a complete degloving becomes an unnecessary procedure,
as a penoscrotal approach would guarantee adequate exposure
in these patients (7, 8). Magnetic resonance imaging or
USS of the penis play therefore a pivotal role for the identification
of the exact location of the tear and therefore allow
the surgeon to adequately choose the most appropriate surgical
approach. Surgery should be immediate, in order to
preserve as much cavernosal tissue as possible and to minimize
the formation of corporeal fibrosis, which would lead
to ED, penile shortening and curvature (3-5).


Just one of the things I read from some kind of medical journal that knows nothing. Okay bye!