Surgically Confirmed: BUCK'S Fascia tear CAN cause HF like symptoms

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You are not arguing mike you are discussing. Its fine, our opinions differ but hf is a very interesting (niche lol) subject.
You can't understand it unless youve had it.

Are you sure you are doing rks correctly?
Longerlastingnoob has some great thread on this.
As well as your extra hard erection shaft can you feel your perineum hard and balled up too when you get a erection?
My perineum was none existent flaccid and like a golf ball sneaking up my ass when erect
I was do things that weren't rks for a while.
Its the weirdest exercise. There are about three different things of which I dont know which is 'correct' for rks' I just know which is most effective. Sometimes when I try to do an rk something else happens and I discove a new way to stretch.

Yes, I am doing them right. I do them everyday. I've had a pelvic physio help me do them and I continue to do them. They work extremely well for premature ejaculation. I can pretty much last for as long as I want. However, like I said, sometimes my erections go away when I'm inside a girl or I just lose it.
 

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Jimbo, you likely never noticed, but your testicles hang at slightly different levels or height, normally. That's by physiological design, so that they are less prone to injury from a direct hit. If they hang at exactly the same
level, they would both receive the same force of impact, By hanging slightly off center of each other, they don't
take the same impact nor do they bang directly into each other when hit. Make sense?
 

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I've read that most men's testicles hang with the left being lower. It looks as if sometimes my left (which is bigger) is being pulled up. I have no pain in testicles but lots of pain/tightness in left piriformous muscle. Been trying to release it. I worried about this fascia stuff though because I felt a pop when stretching my flaccid penis and am very distressed at what to do.
 

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I've read that most men's testicles hang with the left being lower. It looks as if sometimes my left (which is bigger) is being pulled up. I have no pain in testicles but lots of pain/tightness in left piriformous muscle. Been trying to release it. I worried about this fascia stuff though because I felt a pop when stretching my flaccid penis and am very distressed at what to do.

That pop was likely a lig pop, fairly normal from stretches, and not really anything to be concerned about unless you have soreness or pain in the ligs beneath the fatpad near your shaft. If so, just lay off the stretches for a while especially on that side. Lig sprains can take a long time to heal, so give it time before stretching again if it's sore.

Your testicles are surrounded by the cremaster muscles that raise/lower them when temp. changes or when you get a spike in cortisol (fight/flight/anger) or during sex/edging. The cremaster muscles can be retrained by wearing a testicle cuff or ball stretcher, to keep your testicles hanging lower in the scrotum, if they turtle a lot. Over time, by wearing the cuff plus doing my Uro stretch along with rbi99's testicle jelqs, you can improve the hang and size of your testicles, making them larger, healthier and extending the spermatic cords. Along with the relaxed cremaster muscles the turteling can be greatly reduced, if not eliminated. Read my post #5 on the following link for more info on my Uro stretch and testicle cuffs.

https://www.pegym.com/forums/penile-anomalies-injuries/89191-avoiding-turkey-neck.html
 

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OTE=m3232;1127050]Hey mike cares, I was thinking about the ethics of this surgeon and situation which you mentioned earlier in the thread, it calls to mind two questions,
1. Do you think all surgeon are ethically and morally pure because they studied at med school?
2. Is it unethical after exploritory surgery, if, hypothetically the surgeon found nothing, but knew all the symptoms and patient history and possible muscular and psychological causes of the condition, it would not be unethical to suggest post operatively that a proceedure was carried out if in his or her PROFESSIONAL opinion, they believed a placebo could in any way help the patients recovery I have very little doubt that the surgeon would consider it, honestly report it in his notes and hope fir the best.
This would be the doctor using discretion, not being dishonest or unprofessional in any way and documenting the placebo as especulative aftercare .
Sound maverick?
This is a maverick surgeon.
I dont even think it would be remotely maverick for a medical professional to do so.
I think most surgeons would consider itwwould not harm the surgeons reputation in any way to do so.
The placebo effect is medically effective and sound.[/QUOTE]

Anyone else think placebo/speculative aftercare would be staple after invasive exploratory surgery?
Its a bit of a catch 22.
 

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OTE=m3232;1127050]Hey mike cares, I was thinking about the ethics of this surgeon and situation which you mentioned earlier in the thread, it calls to mind two questions,
1. Do you think all surgeon are ethically and morally pure because they studied at med school?
2. Is it unethical after exploritory surgery, if, hypothetically the surgeon found nothing, but knew all the symptoms and patient history and possible muscular and psychological causes of the condition, it would not be unethical to suggest post operatively that a proceedure was carried out if in his or her PROFESSIONAL opinion, they believed a placebo could in any way help the patients recovery I have very little doubt that the surgeon would consider it, honestly report it in his notes and hope fir the best.
This would be the doctor using discretion, not being dishonest or unprofessional in any way and documenting the placebo as especulative aftercare .
Sound maverick?
This is a maverick surgeon.
I dont even think it would be remotely maverick for a medical professional to do so.
I think most surgeons would consider itwwould not harm the surgeons reputation in any way to do so.
The placebo effect is medically effective and sound.

Anyone else think placebo/speculative aftercare would be staple after invasive exploratory surgery?
Its a bit of a catch 22.[/QUOTE]

Again, this isn't the 1950s. Doctors don't cut you open and tell you they've done something and then don't do it. That is career suicide and extremely unethical. His fascia was torn and he got it fixed. End of story man...not sure how else to spin it.
 

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It has nothing to do with the 1950s mike.placebo is more respected and accepted now than it was then.its certainly not career suicide to write up the operation honestly. Medical professional discretion os used all the time.
 

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One must minute everyone is bashing the doctors saying they dont know sh*t and are incompetent because they cant make your dick hard, the next minute a doctor who perform an exploritary surgery privately for a fee, the results ofwhich not yet known and its 'doctors dont do this and dont do that, blah blah, its not 1950... sh*t man. Thats naive.
In what year were all medical professionals canonised becoming morally and ethically pure?
Was that 1973...?
Its like when they brought down hitler and totally put an end to totalitarian fascist dictatorship lol
 

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Whatever the result you will see it , and no body knows what is it even OP and doctor maybe yeah he repair the fascia and maybe that will not work nobody knows , SO stop acting like that , repeating your talk every day .

we all hope that works , plus this man does not mean to scary any one here , he just sharing his experience and I think you are Adults enough to decide whats good for you , and if its not : just Step aside
 

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is that type of replays always necessary for some one to put EVERYTIME ?
is it necessary always to make someone shut the thread down ?
please ...
 

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Only if they behave like children; right now they're behaving like teenagers so no big deal.
 

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Op is a bullshitter. he is trying to validate his obsession that HF is caused by some magical injury. he has not had surgery, do not encourage him.
 

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Let's be nice kids!:mad:
 

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Let's be nice kids!:mad:

I actually think hf recovering is right. (Even though he called me a moron lol)
This surgery sh*t doesn't add up.
Cusp, I dont think anyone is being not nice.
 

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Op is a bullshitter. he is trying to validate his obsession that HF is caused by some magical injury. he has not had surgery, do not encourage him.

Funny...you still have HF despite everything you have tried right? OP is not a bullshiter. I have talked in depth with OP through Skype. Facts are facts: people who suffer from HF through jelqing/stretching never seem to have their pre-injury penis back no matter what they do....its because there is a structural deficit. Also, funny how he hasn't posted here since his surgery because he is over this forum and just wanted to provide his story to help others.
 

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I actually think hf recovering is right. (Even though he called me a moron lol)
This surgery sh*t doesn't add up.
Cusp, I dont think anyone is being not nice.

I'm not so sure whats so hard to believe. A lot is unknown in the medical community...medicine is constantly evolving just like every other field of research. Why is it so hard that the penis was damaged through jelqing to the point that it caused structural damage? Its silly to think that jelqing caused the whole pelvic floor to go into spasm when the exercise is done to the PENIS. It's like doing 1000 crunches and having severe pain in your back after that but saying that the pain is coming from the upper back just because its "attached" to the lower back. The body does not work like this. And if its a pelvic floor problem, why does pelvic floor relaxation/therapy not help people with HF who got it through jelqing recover 100%? BECAUSE there is structural damage. I've torn a tendon straight off my finger...no amount of physio/exercise will help you recover in this case because the tendon cannot reattach to the bone if torn 100%. You need surgery to repair the structural damage or it will not function the same. Same applies in this case.

Its funny how people won't accept this and keep defending PE and just get upset when you tell them that jelqing caused structural damage. Jelqing is an exercise like anything else. There are risks versus benefits. You do too much: you can cause damage. Same applies to any other exercise like squats, bench pressing, etc.

Like what do you need? OP to take a picture of his surgically repaired dick with his initials on his casted dick? If you don't think his case adds up, I can use the same logic and tell you that your HF recovery does not add up because I've reads dozens and dozens of HF-jelqing suffers that continue to have this for months and years despite all the recovery tactics they have tried.
 
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Fascia is a very tough material. I have cut through it, have looked at it under scopes and it is indeed a wonderful tough as sh*t saran wrap like material that the body has made. To tear it requires a lot of force. To rip it 360 degrees would not only require great force but it would hurt like hell and you'd have swelling and edema for days and any one that was sane would have ended up in the hospital.

You guys believe what you want but just be nice about it.
 

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Fascia is a very tough material. I have cut through it, have looked at it under scopes and it is indeed a wonderful tough as sh*t saran wrap like material that the body has made. To tear it requires a lot of force. To rip it 360 degrees would not only require great force but it would hurt like hell and you'd have swelling and edema for days and any one that was sane would have ended up in the hospital.

You guys believe what you want but just be nice about it.

True dat.
What is the surgeon's name?
A person without a name does not exist
 

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The surgeon would definitely see others with the case.
If op tells the surgeon's name everyone can google him and other guys who honestly believe that they have torn facscia 360 degrees around theyre dick lol can go get this sh*t done.
Skype him mike.