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Surgically Confirmed: BUCK'S Fascia tear CAN cause HF like symptoms
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Even if hard flaccid is a physical injury, which it may or may not be, can't we all agree that 100% of the problems you are having are psychological. From what I have read, there is nothing that stops you from getting a boner and fucking, isn't that correct?
Even if hard flaccid is a physical injury, which it may or may not be, can't we all agree that 100% of the problems you are having are psychological. From what I have read, there is nothing that stops you from getting a boner and fucking, isn't that correct?
YOu are right in the last part...but Pplz can lose there erections easier and may not get as erect. For example, I've been having sex for 3-4 weeks with.not many problems but the last few sessions I have seen erection loses during intercourse or weaker erections. So it's physical in nature
It happend and the only thing that matters is how op recovers. Funny it's the guys they promote pe are the ones in denial about this thing. Again, I've talked personally with op on skype and there's nothing more to it. Good luck to everyoneHo, dont be naive, this operation never happened
Well Mike, I am not dismissing your problems, but as somebody who does not have HF, I haven't bothered to read the 92873492374923487 pages of discussion, mostly because it is littered with bickering and arguments. I kind of get the "weaker erection thing" but not all boners were created equal. I'm relatively young and fit and yet still each and every my boners aren't the rock hard ones that they were when I was 18. I just chalk that up to a number of any factors and try not to assign a specific reason reason to it...try not to over think it, you know? Because a good way to lose a boner that isn't rock hard is to start dwelling about it. And I'm not directing this post at you, I am just thinking out loud.
Maybe you should write an article for the website about HF. Not about its causes or whether or not it is a physical or mental ailment, but just about how a positive mental attitude and not a "woe is me" perspective can help a sufferer avoid the potentially debilitating effects of the injury.
Maybe you should write an article for the website about HF. Not about its causes or whether or not it is a physical or mental ailment, but just about how a positive mental attitude and not a "woe is me" perspective can help a sufferer avoid the potentially debilitating effects of the injury.
Im not promoting pe. It is a fact that it will improve your boners.
Mike just because you spoke to op on Skype means nothing. It just sounds a bit silly to its definitely true because you spoke to him so there.
This thread is a wild fantasy.
Operation never happened.
He would share the surgeons name with other sufferers.
Mike, I canny believe you have been sucked in by this lol
Mike just because you spoke to op on Skype means nothing. It just sounds a bit silly to its definitely true because you spoke to him so there.
This thread is a wild fantasy.
Operation never happened.
He would share the surgeons name with other sufferers.
Mike, I canny believe you have been sucked in by this lol
Im not promoting pe. It is a fact that it will improve your boners.
Mike just because you spoke to op on Skype means nothing. It just sounds a bit silly to its definitely true because you spoke to him so there.
This thread is a wild fantasy.
Operation never happened.
He would share the surgeons name with other sufferers.
Mike, I canny believe you have been sucked in by this lol
And why don't u think he will share it? He just got it 2 weeks ago. IF recovery goes well, I'm sure he will share it. Theres really nothing more to it.
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Im not promoting pe. It is a fact that it will improve your boners.
Mike just because you spoke to op on Skype means nothing. It just sounds a bit silly to its definitely true because you spoke to him so there.
This thread is a wild fantasy.
Operation never happened.
He would share the surgeons name with other sufferers.
Mike, I canny believe you have been sucked in by this lol
im guessing now you can see why im so hard on these people, threads like this about HF have been here for years and this isnt even the craziest one lol
im guessing now you can see why im so hard on these people, threads like this about HF have been here for years and this isnt even the craziest one lol
U have had hf for years and yet u still think its an anxiety issue? U honestly think anxiety is so hard to treat that 100s of hard flaccid jelqers have not been able to get rid of it? It's ridiculous how u fail to realize something else is going on here. Please post a reputable and factual comment instead of trying to put everyone on blast. people who get hf from hormonal and stress problems recover because they know the root cause of their problem (hormonal imbalance and stress). Again, why do pplz who jelq/stretch and experience hard flaccid constantly experience this no matter what treatment they try. If its a simple anxiety issue, it would disappear in times of no anxiety...but it does not. You either have hard flaccid or a large and extended flaccid.
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Itsnot 'anxiety' its physical muscle tension. Anxiety(even the sightest anxiety about function or doubt about recovery causes hypertension. (This is so delicate that the nuance between relaxation and perceived relaxation is almost indistinguishable) the physical symptoms of the muscle tension can be precisely measured by the untensity of the doubt.
It is muscular assisted performance anxiety.
After a two month shut down your erecion will be smaller and weaker although the shaft may seem harder or even 'too hard' as has been mentioned because of reduced vascularity if the penis due to the shutting down of the multitude of tiny capillaries through inaction.
The skin sometimes feel rubbery because there was a massive shut down of tiny blood vessels which make your dick meatier Or more pumped when eerect.
If you use a tiny vein once a month it will fuck off and get a new job.
Rks, deep relaxation,; very gentle jelqing all help.
Mike you say you have never done pe but your injury was acquired 'basically jelqing si stfu.lol
You are three months in and your beliief in unfairy godmother surgery has blinded you and is preventing your cs filling up.
It is muscular assisted performance anxiety.
After a two month shut down your erecion will be smaller and weaker although the shaft may seem harder or even 'too hard' as has been mentioned because of reduced vascularity if the penis due to the shutting down of the multitude of tiny capillaries through inaction.
The skin sometimes feel rubbery because there was a massive shut down of tiny blood vessels which make your dick meatier Or more pumped when eerect.
If you use a tiny vein once a month it will fuck off and get a new job.
Rks, deep relaxation,; very gentle jelqing all help.
Mike you say you have never done pe but your injury was acquired 'basically jelqing si stfu.lol
You are three months in and your beliief in unfairy godmother surgery has blinded you and is preventing your cs filling up.
Itsnot 'anxiety' its physical muscle tension. Anxiety(even the sightest anxiety about function or doubt about recovery causes hypertension. (This is so delicate that the nuance between relaxation and perceived relaxation is almost indistinguishable) the physical symptoms of the muscle tension can be precisely measured by the untensity of the doubt.
It is muscular assisted performance anxiety.
After a two month shut down your erecion will be smaller and weaker although the shaft may seem harder or even 'too hard' as has been mentioned because of reduced vascularity if the penis due to the shutting down of the multitude of tiny capillaries through inaction.
The skin sometimes feel rubbery because there was a massive shut down of tiny blood vessels which make your dick meatier Or more pumped when eerect.
If you use a tiny vein once a month it will fuck off and get a new job.
Rks, deep relaxation,; very gentle jelqing all help.
Mike you say you have never done pe but your injury was acquired 'basically jelqing si stfu.lol
You are three months in and your beliief in unfairy godmother surgery has blinded you and is preventing your cs filling up.
My glands have been hit or miss even before I heard of this surgery. They were hit or miss since day 1 and still are during 5 minute or 45 minute sex sessions. My shaft has been super hard since day 1 up until now. I do rks and relaxation sh*t everyday. Cialis causes a full blown erection though (proving it's physically based). Anxiety is a normal part of life. You are acting like
Pllz with hf walk around with anxiety 24/7. Like I said, since my sex life has been fairly normal this last month, my happiness has increased and anxiety has reduced. Like I said, don't be surprised if op releases the surgeons name if he recovers well. If he does not recover well, then I will admit I am in the wrong. Also, I find my erections are weaker if I have sex everyday versus abstaining for a few days up to a week so I wouldn't say abstaining for a little bit is bad (it's only bad for months).
Okay..to all doubters.
Here is the thing, you guys need to understand.
1) Op who posted this, did not have classic Hard Flaccid. You guys are most likely right in HF caused by muscle dysfunction
2)BUT he didnot have HF, he did state his hard flaccid wasnt the issue. ISSUE was over extended soft penis, abnormal length with pivot like area on the shaft (bottom)
Hence, overstreched or torn fascia was suspected.
Not trying to argue or anything. Any opinions and thoughts are welcomed.
Its just that there are some of us here who had over-extended larger flaccid penis, that is casuing various problems despite using approach to fix HF.
I think imho, although HF is treated by targeting pelvic muscles, there are variant of it which kind of resembles HF but totally different case. Ie) HF= restricted/constricted hard smaller penis VS people who injured themselves with pump/stretch leading to overextended loose penis with urination/ED problem.
Here is the thing, you guys need to understand.
1) Op who posted this, did not have classic Hard Flaccid. You guys are most likely right in HF caused by muscle dysfunction
2)BUT he didnot have HF, he did state his hard flaccid wasnt the issue. ISSUE was over extended soft penis, abnormal length with pivot like area on the shaft (bottom)
Hence, overstreched or torn fascia was suspected.
Not trying to argue or anything. Any opinions and thoughts are welcomed.
Its just that there are some of us here who had over-extended larger flaccid penis, that is casuing various problems despite using approach to fix HF.
I think imho, although HF is treated by targeting pelvic muscles, there are variant of it which kind of resembles HF but totally different case. Ie) HF= restricted/constricted hard smaller penis VS people who injured themselves with pump/stretch leading to overextended loose penis with urination/ED problem.
Rxaxa im not doubting the op's condition.
I had the pivot/indentation in the base cs too.
Its a very tight bc muscle restricting the cs.
Regardless, im not doubting the condition I am doubting the operation.
I think I experienced larger over extended flaccid during recoveryband still do, Sometimes my flaccid is definitely longer and thinner than before and my shaft can also be a bit thin at the base.
I haven't tried viagra or cilias but I have no doubt they would work
I had the pivot/indentation in the base cs too.
Its a very tight bc muscle restricting the cs.
Regardless, im not doubting the condition I am doubting the operation.
I think I experienced larger over extended flaccid during recoveryband still do, Sometimes my flaccid is definitely longer and thinner than before and my shaft can also be a bit thin at the base.
I haven't tried viagra or cilias but I have no doubt they would work
Rxaxa im not doubting the op's condition.
I had the pivot/indentation in the base cs too.
Its a very tight bc muscle restricting the cs.
Regardless, im not doubting the condition I am doubting the operation.
I think I experienced larger over extended flaccid during recoveryband still do, Sometimes my flaccid is definitely longer and thinner than before and my shaft can also be a bit thin at the base.
I haven't tried viagra or cilias but I have no doubt they would work
I definately agree. Surgery is very invasive and I would personally not recommend to anyone either.
But for those who have been suffering for more than a year, (there are few).
Have went through many methods without any results. Maybe those who have still problems, might have injured the penis in much more severe problem.
Hence if OP recovers from his injury with his *surgery* and can provide us more info., it would provide a great help to those who have been suffering for years.
Not saying it solution, but maybe this can help us open some doors or light to understand the injury better or help us explorer other options.
I know it sounds ridiculous for some of you, but please take time to understand, this post is not to scare or tell everyone who has HF go for a surgery, but to help and discuss ideas for those who are in need of help.
Not every injury is same nor not every treatment works for the others.
If cialis causes a full blown erection doesn't that prove its not physical?
Cialis will not structurally alter your dick.
I think you are missing the whole point. Let me explain.
Cailis and Viagra (PDE5s) works via increasing dilation of blood vessel to help increase travel of blood into penis, hence helping with erectile dysfunction.
In OPs case and some people with larger flaccid, do not have vascular problem. Hence PDE5s work regardless.
Problem.is outside vascular structure. Perhaps fascia or something else as OP suggested.
I will take an example:
Think the CS/Cc as a inner tire and fascia as outer part of tire that encomposes the CS/cc
Air (blood) fills into tire giving inflation (erection).
But lets say if tire is stretched out of proportion, it will still inflate but not properly. Just like damaged fascia injury.
People will still get erection but not proper erection.
If using PDEs and if we can get errction then fine we will live with it.
But the major problem is, after erection of any type, soon insane swelling and problems arise. Thats why some do not think this is just mental issue as there are swelling and physical effects that follows
I think you are missing the whole point. Let me explain.
Cailis and Viagra (PDE5s) works via increasing dilation of blood vessel to help increase travel of blood into penis, hence helping with erectile dysfunction.
In OPs case and some people with larger flaccid, do not have vascular problem. Hence PDE5s work regardless.
Problem.is outside vascular structure. Perhaps fascia or something else as OP suggested.
I will take an example:
Think the CS/Cc as a inner tire and fascia as outer part of tire that encomposes the CS/cc
Air (blood) fills into tire giving inflation (erection).
But lets say if tire is stretched out of proportion, it will still inflate but not properly. Just like damaged fascia injury.
People will still get erection but not proper erection.
If using PDEs and if we can get errction then fine we will live with it.
But the major problem is, after erection of any type, soon insane swelling and problems arise. Thats why some do not think this is just mental issue as there are swelling and physical effects that follows
Hey dude, that was directed at mike.
If cialis gives you a full blown erection as is tge case with mike with no after effects then it is proof its not physical.
Blood flow is reduced through the perineum which is reversed by cialis.
What I mean is that cialis does exactly what you said, so if you can get a full in erection with it its much more likely that your veins are pinched by very subtle muscle imbalance.
I do hope there is a solution for people who have long term problems so good luck.
Okay..to all doubters.
Here is the thing, you guys need to understand.
1) Op who posted this, did not have classic Hard Flaccid. You guys are most likely right in HF caused by muscle dysfunction
2)BUT he didnot have HF, he did state his hard flaccid wasnt the issue. ISSUE was over extended soft penis, abnormal length with pivot like area on the shaft (bottom)
Hence, overstreched or torn fascia was suspected.
Not trying to argue or anything. Any opinions and thoughts are welcomed.
Its just that there are some of us here who had over-extended larger flaccid penis, that is casuing various problems despite using approach to fix HF.
I think imho, although HF is treated by targeting pelvic muscles, there are variant of it which kind of resembles HF but totally different case. Ie) HF= restricted/constricted hard smaller penis VS people who injured themselves with pump/stretch leading to overextended loose penis with urination/ED problem.
OP did have hard flaccid. He had it caused by stretching. I think your misunderstood what he said. Ive talked with him extensively. He said his HF was not as frequent, but he still shifted between hard flaccid and large and overextended flaccid. I also go into overextended mode...but its always been like that and it will go back and forth b/t it and hard flaccid (and I got hard flaccid through trauma, like jelqing but not exactly jeqling)
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I think you are missing the whole point. Let me explain.
Cailis and Viagra (PDE5s) works via increasing dilation of blood vessel to help increase travel of blood into penis, hence helping with erectile dysfunction.
In OPs case and some people with larger flaccid, do not have vascular problem. Hence PDE5s work regardless.
Problem.is outside vascular structure. Perhaps fascia or something else as OP suggested.
I will take an example:
Think the CS/Cc as a inner tire and fascia as outer part of tire that encomposes the CS/cc
Air (blood) fills into tire giving inflation (erection).
But lets say if tire is stretched out of proportion, it will still inflate but not properly. Just like damaged fascia injury.
People will still get erection but not proper erection.
If using PDEs and if we can get errction then fine we will live with it.
But the major problem is, after erection of any type, soon insane swelling and problems arise. Thats why some do not think this is just mental issue as there are swelling and physical effects that follows
He explained it well. And the surgery is basically equivalent to a circumcision. I had it done and recovered in 4-6 weeks. It hurts, but it was good after that. Again man...if its pelvic floor related, then why do pelvic floor exercise not help people recover from it? The fascia may be damaged, but you can still get an erection...its just not always a good one. And living off dick medication for the rest of your life can pose other health problems
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I think you are missing the whole point. Let me explain.
Cailis and Viagra (PDE5s) works via increasing dilation of blood vessel to help increase travel of blood into penis, hence helping with erectile dysfunction.
In OPs case and some people with larger flaccid, do not have vascular problem. Hence PDE5s work regardless.
Problem.is outside vascular structure. Perhaps fascia or something else as OP suggested.
I will take an example:
Think the CS/Cc as a inner tire and fascia as outer part of tire that encomposes the CS/cc
Air (blood) fills into tire giving inflation (erection).
But lets say if tire is stretched out of proportion, it will still inflate but not properly. Just like damaged fascia injury.
People will still get erection but not proper erection.
If using PDEs and if we can get errction then fine we will live with it.
But the major problem is, after erection of any type, soon insane swelling and problems arise. Thats why some do not think this is just mental issue as there are swelling and physical effects that follows
Who gets swelling? People with over extended flaccid? Ive never had any swelling or pain after sex. Also, PDEs long term can have bad side effects. Surgery is always the last resort but it can be effective in some cases
