Saiyan22 BACK WITH A VENGEANCE AND BRAND NEW GAINS WITH PICS FOR PROOF

[size_matters_bd]

where do i buy the clamps? I'd like to try your exercise. Does it matter if im cut or uncut?

 

[TurtleProblems]

Hey Saiyan, was just wondering how your gains are coming along, and are you still pumping these days?

 

[Novajelqer]

Great thread lots of great info...thanks Saiyan. This is the longest thread i have read so far..lol. I too am curious about your recent gains and current size. Thanks again for the great advice.

 

[malehanger]

The OP left several months back because this place was so crappy in his opinion and he joined another forum. Maybe this thread should be locked?

 

[TheCockMaster]

I've been doing PE for months now and never really tried this all-day everyday militant style method.

I'm definitely gonna go all in now.

Get extenders, and hangers, no clamping though because I want length, I think I'm pretty thick so clamping can come later after length.

Thanks for the inspiration man!

 

[JoshLuvins]

that is one hell of a routine...

 

[saiyan22]

saiyan22 aka kingsnake checking in. Starting my chemical PE protocal full throttle next week. Been using dmso and paba for the past two weeks. Definitely makes the tunica soft and pliable. Waiting on my pge1 and tb4 in the mail still. current stats thanks to conventional PE. nbpel 9.5 inches length x 6.25 midgirth x 6.45 base girth. Lets see what Chemical PE can do for me.

 

[TheSperminator]

Saiyan you're a beast! Your routines are crazy intense, I really don't get where you find the energy and discipline from ..

 

[saiyan22]

Thanks Sperminator. Ok fellas. saiyan aka kingsnake is here to demonstrate how to use dmso and paba effectively. The dmso that I use is 70%concentration. Meaning that the other 30% is of distilled water. You don't need to go beyond 70% concentration because beyond that and it can cause skin irratation and dryness. 70% concentration is more then enough to go through the membranes of the skin and transfer other particles with it of smaller moleculor weight. I get my 70% dmso in 8oz glass bottles from (supplement warehouse.com). When you get dmso, make sure to get them in glass bottles instead of plastic bottles.

DMSO is a powerful solvent and can dissolve particles from the plastic bottle or container it's in. This is bad because if used the particles in the plastic can be dissolved through your skin with the dmso which can be toxic. So make sure to order the dmso in glass bottles. Also when using DMSO make sure to clean the area that you'll be applying the dmso before use. Like I said earlier. DMSO wll drag any germs or bacteria through the skin if the area that you're applying it on isn't clean. So for those using DMSO on there dicks, make sure to clean your dick properly as well as your hands.

DMSO by itself is a very powerful antinflamatory and healing excelorator. This solvent also breaks down cologen and makes it more soft and pliable for easier manipulation with mechanical forms of PE. Oh yeah one more thing. Make sure to store your DMSO in a dark place. Too much light can distort the chemical properties of the solvent. Also I must warn you guys that DMSO smells horrible.

Now for PABA. This was mainly used in pill or capsule form to help break up scar tissue in guys with peryonies desease. The paba inhances the amount of oxygenated blood flow to the tissues, promoting healing and revitalization of scarred tissue back into healthy tissue. In doctor Adam's chemical PE patent he had his test subjects taking around 3 to 6 grams of paba a day in there protocol. Some doctors would prescribe up to 12 grams of paba in capsule form to patients with peryonies desease.

Now with the use of DMSO we have stepped it up a notch by transdermally carrying the paba directly into the tissues of the penis for a more localized and direct effect on the tunica. It's best to buy a tub load of powdered paba because with the capsule form you won't have enough to saturate dmso the way it needs to be. So with DMSO and PABA combined together, this packs a mean whallop to the tunica. I definitely recommend this to PE vets that have platueoed from tough tunica sydrome due to many years of PE. This will definitely accelerate gains when added to mechanical PE.

Now on how to mix the too. What I personally do is pour a full 8 oz bottle of DMSO in a jar. I then scoop out enough powdered paba from my container to saturate the dmso. After you do this, sterr or shake up the jar. If you see some powdered paba sitting in the bottom of the jar after you shake it up real good, then that means that the dmso has reached maximum saturation with the paba. It's best to let the mixture sit over night for saturation to take full effect.

Dmso is a clear liquid but if saturated correctley with powdered paba, the mixture should be a clear foggy whitesh color liquid. I made a mistake and put to much paba in my first batch of dmso and the result was a pure white milky liquid. I was worried at first but coughroniellecough told me it's fine. From the looks of things, one 8 oz bottle of DMSO poured in a jar saturated with paba will last me a good month if not more. I bought five 8 oz bottles of DMSO that I haven't openned yet so this sh*t will last a long time.

Next I use a glass eye dropper to extract some of the mixed solution out of the jar into smaller glass vials that I can take with me to work. When ever you want to apply some of your dmso/paba solution, use a glass eye dropper to extract some of the dmso/paba solution out of the vial into the eye dropper. Then you will drip the solution onto your penis. Keep extracting the solution from the vial with eye dropper onto your dick until your dick is completely wet and covered with the solution.

After dripping the solution out of the eye dropper, turn the eye dropper to its side and smear the liquid all over your dick to ensure that you get all of your penis covered in the solution. For those with peryonies desease or curves in there penis, apply an extra amount to this area so the dmso/paba will help break up and soften the scar tissue there. Let the dmso/paba solution sit on your dick for 20 to 40 minutes as it penetrates and dries through your dick to do it's job.

After 20 to 40 minutes, wash off the residue from the solution with a clean wet wash cloth. Definitely clean your penis well after DMSO/PABA treatment because the stuff smells disguisting. The last thing you want is to be walking around with a bad smelling dick. After you clean off your dick, apply some aloe vera lotion or gel to your penis for moisturising since dmso drys out the skin.

Here's some pics showing how saiyan22 aka the snake man goes about it.

 

[saiyan22]

next set of pics showing how to apply dmso and paba solution.

<penis pics removed, not allowed in open forums>

Please put penis pics in your user Album. Then you can put the url for your album pics in the post.

they are here:
https://www.pegym.com/forums/members/noalbum-albums-saiyan22-pics.html

 

[saiyan22]

Hey fellas. The day before yesterday I got my pge1 and tb4 in the mail. I only tried out the pge1 for now to find out my dosage for 4 hour erections.

I injected 5 mcgs of pge1. Not much happened. 30 minutes later I said FUCK IT and injected another 5 mcgs. This resulted in a 6 plus hour raging erection. You can definitely feel the pge1 doing some changes to the tunica walls.

One thing I notice with a pge1 erection is that only the CCs get engorged. My CS and glans didn't inflat much unless I deliberately did a kegel or was having sex. This is what makes pge1 erections better then clamped erections. With the CS and the glans not being restricted, the erection can be maintained for hrs as oppose to clamping where all 3 chambers are constricted, limiting sets to 10 to 20 minutes at a time.

I plan on injecting today. This time Im only going to inject 5mcgs and this time be patient for a good 45 mins to an hr for the PGE1 to take effect. Im hoping 5 mcgs will give me 4 hrs of erection time. We'll find out today.

Down below are some pics I took of my PGE1 chemically induced erection. The pics are of me 2 hrs into the erection. I also have a flaccid stretch pic I took yesterday on my lunch break while doing manual stretches. My bpfls is at 10.5 inches but after a couple of minutes of manual stretches I can stretch out to 10.65 inches at home. Im thinking the DMSO and PABA that I've been doing for the past 2 weeks twice a day has been softening up my tunica, making it nice an stretchy.

So my plan with the pge1 erections are to not just sit there with the erection. Once I start my official schedule after finding out my right pge1 dosage, I plan on edging for at least an hr of the erection time to help flush in hormone and nutrient inriched blood from all of the supplements that Im taking.

Kinda like how it's exlpained with edging or ballooning in the PE bible or Dr lins website. The plan is to shoot for four hour erections 4 times a week which will equal out to be 16 hours of erection time a week to start with for now. As I become more accustom to it, I'll aim for more erection time per week.

I will also be hanging, jelqing, pumping, manual stretching and wearing some type of ADS device in combination with the chemicals and supplements. Im on a mission to reach nbpel 10 plus by 7 plus inches and nothing's gonna stop me.

Also I've made three new post total today. Go to the last couple of post on the previous page to see detailed information and detailed pics of my use with DMSO mixed with PABA.

pics here:
https://www.pegym.com/forums/members/noalbum-albums-saiyan22-pics.html

 

[Closed039]

Hey Saiyan, we do have a chemical PE forum here, I know you have this log which is pretty long and has a ton of good sh*t in it but you might see more interest from certain members if you post in the ChemPE section.

 

[david321]

Very impressive gains! Keep it up man. Your body transformation is awesome. You have motivated me into working out!

 

[sdaddy]

Does DMSO cause your breath and sweat to smell badly? When I was using the stuff, years ago, my breath and sweat smelled awful.

Good info about ordering DMSO in a bottle. I didn't have a clue about that.

 

[sdaddy]

Perhaps someone here can answer the following question: Instead of injecting PGE1 into the corpus cavernosum, can one using mix it with DMSO and apply it transdermally?

With my luck, I may f*** up and hit an artery.

 

[schlittle]

Perhaps someone here can answer the following question: Instead of injecting PGE1 into the corpus cavernosum, can one using mix it with DMSO and apply it transdermally?

With my luck, I may f*** up and hit an artery.

Hello sdaddy, there's a pegym member called OMG and he now has a chemical pe log on a bodybuilding site . Just google omg's chemical pe log and i'm sure he may be able to answer your question

 

[calum3593]

Hey Saiyan22 where do you order your chemicals from I can't seem to find a good legit site. Could you send me the link?

 

[Realman]

saiyan some updates bro ?

 

[Wolfemother]

Bump.! One mad thread....

 

[Wolfemother]

Spot On..

Hey justwannabebig. My total routine is as follows.
Monday
(morning time: 4 hours of bundled hanging in varies angles) (noon time: 3-4 fifteen minute sets of clamping then 1-2 fifteen minute sets of pumping)
Tuesday through Friday
(morining time: 2 twenty minute sets of tunica bundled hanging and 5-10 minutes of edging)
(evening time: 3 twenty minute sets of tunica bundled hanging and 2 twenty minutes sets of downward angle bundled hanging)
(evening time: 3-4 fifteen minute sets of clamping then 1-2 fifteen minute sets of pumping followed by 10 minutes of edging)
Saturday
afternoon: 1-2 light hanging sets as a form of active recovery and some very light jelqing for 5 minutes
Sunday is rest day but I'll wear my steal compression coupling ADS around the house.

Hey Dance Sucka. Plastic deformation is when the molecular bonds of an object like human tissue breaks and remodels to adjust to the stress. The effects of plastic deformation is perminant. For human tissue to reach the plastic phase it has to go through the CREEP phase first. CREEP is when soft tissue stretches past it's elastic limit but this effect is temporary. Once the load that induces creep goes away then soft tissue reverts back to it's normal size. What we as PEers are tying to accomplish is constantley inducing creep with tension and stretch force on the tunica and ligs, whether it's from clamping, hanging, jelqing or pumping.

With repeated bouts of Creep induced tension in the pressence of heat, the molecular bonds in the soft tissue will eventually weaken and break and remodel at a new stretch or expanded size resulting in perminent tissue change and deformation. Once structural remodeling takes place of the newly deform tissue then the elastic limit of the tissue increases to a new threshold.

Through plastic deformation, we are creating new tissue mass and greater elasticity in our tunica and ligs. When the tunica generates more raw tissue mass and elasticity through plastic deformation then obviously the tunica will now be able to fill up with more blood before reaching it's elastic limit and pressurising into a rigid erection.

This will result in a bigger penis since the newly deformed tuncia's blood holding limit is now greater then before.
I break PE done into to types of PE. There's internal tunica stetching excersizes and external tunica stretching excersizes.

When it comes to PE it's all about stretching of the tunica and ligs. Even when you are clamping or jelqing it's still a form of stretching because the blood that's being pushed into the penis during these excersizes is increasing the internal pressure in the penis which is stretching the tunica outwards for girth gains. So I look at girth excersizes like clamping as internal stretching of the tunica.

The blood is what's being used internally to stretch the tunica outwards. Internal tunica stretching excersizes require blood. The blood engorment is what's building the pressure inside of the penis that's stetching the tunica in all directions for girth.
Examples of internal tunica stetching excersizes are, clamping, pumping, jelqing and erect bends.

Now when it comes to external tuncia stretching excersizes this is when no blood is required to stretch the tunica. external tunica stretching exersizes is when an outside force is being placed on the penis to stretch the tunica directly without using blood to build up any internal pressure.

Examples of external tunica stretching excersizes are manual stetches and hanging which hit's the ligs as well.

So all in all PE is about deforming the tunica and ligs though stretch force.

Internal tunica stretching excersizes like jelqs require blood and external stretching excersizes like hanging require no blood.

Another thing I want you guys to understand even though I said this before on that link that aidan784 set up to my science thread. When you do PE you are not growing your penis or stimulating your penis to grow. Sorry fellas but It doesn't work that way. Once you are completely done with pubery which is around 20 to 23 years of age then that''s it my brothers. The fat lady has song. Your dick ain't growing any more. What you have at the age of 23 is all mother nature or your genetic make up has in store for you when it comes to growth.

At this point you can enlarge your penis through PE. Not grow you penis but ENLARGE your penis. This will be done by plastic deformation and structural remodeling of soft tissues of the penis.

Another thing that I have talked about is treating the penis like any other skelital muscle in the body that can grow from excersize. Sorry fellas but it doesn't work that way either. The penis does have smooth muscle in it but not the kind of muscle that can be stimulated for growth through workouts like lets say your chest or biceps. Doesn't work that way at all. The tissues in the penis deform from stress/ time under tenison.

That's all there is to it. TIME UNDER TENSION.

Let's use an imaginary guy named Bob. Let's say Bob has been doing manual stretches and jelqs for 2 years and has gained 1 inch in length and .25 in girth in over that 2 year period. Now let's say Bob has reached a platueo and can't gain another cenimeter to save his life because his ligs and tunica have toughen up and adapted to the tension that Bob's hands were putting on his dick.

Now lets say Bob changes up his excersize and starts hanging and clamping. Now after 6 months, Bob has broke out of his platueo and gain another half inch in lengh and a half inch in girth. The reason Bob broke out of his platueo is not because he changed his excersizes to keep his penis guessing so to say.

Bob broke out of his platueo because he is now applying the right amount of load and time under tension for plastic deformation to continue. The hanging and clamping is providing Bob's penis more load and time under tension then the manual stretches and jelqing that he was doing before.

Wether you are jelqing, clamping, pumping, stretching, or hanging. It's all about load and time under tension. Plastic deformation is time and load dependent.

I think I'm gonna update my science thread with this reponse as well. Hope this helps Dance Sucka. These are the principles I go by when I'm PEing.