just thinking to myself that the kegels are like holding in bowl movements and reverse kegels like pushing them out, when i was much younger i had constipation problems which could have caused pc muscles to tighten, also in teens over masturbated regularly for many years which i suppose teaches you to get in habit of ejaculating as quickley as possible i would also often really tense up again prehaps tightening pc muscels. Some of these new techniques im learning about might just do the trick
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Im gonna try reverse kegeling to relaxen my pelvic floor together with normal kegels.
Is it normal to feel like you dont get the hang of reverse kegels compared to normal ones? Sometimes I even pee alittle (or feel like) doing the reverse ones. Am I on the right track?
Is it normal to feel like you dont get the hang of reverse kegels compared to normal ones? Sometimes I even pee alittle (or feel like) doing the reverse ones. Am I on the right track?
haha. Well. I find it hard to isolate it all the way "from the tip of penis and back", like pumping blood out of penis as Pirate describes. Probably because Im not really in touch with my most "outer/upper" pelvic muscles in penis. Funny and encouraging thing is, doing reverse kegels while erect I feel like Im getting closer to the tip, like Im in touch with an area I havent felt for quite a long time. Only very slightly, but still.
while im edging when very horney, i seem to reach ponr within few mins but what i have been doing is leaving it for a while doing a rk and then breathing in and out slowley. this brings levels down, and can then carry on but have noticed that erection quality then goes down to say a 6 , then whenever it gets back up to a 9 im right near the ponr and feel very sensitive.
does this sound right, as have had slight ed problems in past. important to note though is have been doing tests at uni recently so bit more stressed and not eating/ exercising as good as used to which im sure will affect eq, also important to note i was watching porn before edging, which is bound to make you hit ponr sooner. watched porn as wanted to experiement with arousal levels, i am a virgin so is levels of arousal same during sex as in masturbation? or would you be more aroused watching porn than having sex?
does this sound right, as have had slight ed problems in past. important to note though is have been doing tests at uni recently so bit more stressed and not eating/ exercising as good as used to which im sure will affect eq, also important to note i was watching porn before edging, which is bound to make you hit ponr sooner. watched porn as wanted to experiement with arousal levels, i am a virgin so is levels of arousal same during sex as in masturbation? or would you be more aroused watching porn than having sex?
^ from my experience you are more aroused with a girl but its all about xp and control
I have a quick question on reverse kegels: My current routine is 50/50 with 50 reps of each for 10sec. What position is the most effective to do reverse kegels in? I find I can more strongly reverse kegel while standing up, but is that just because I'm weak with them lying or sitting down? For regular kegels I can be in any position but reverse are just easiest standing up. Maybe this is because I use my lower abs to much...
Also I apologize if this question has already been answered, I only skimmed through this thread as its quite long.
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I have a quick question on reverse kegels: My current routine is 50/50 with 50 reps of each for 10sec. What position is the most effective to do reverse kegels in? I find I can more strongly reverse kegel while standing up, but is that just because I'm weak with them lying or sitting down? For regular kegels I can be in any position but reverse are just easiest standing up. Maybe this is because I use my lower abs to much...
Also I apologize if this question has already been answered, I only skimmed through this thread as its quite long.
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It is a good idea to vary body position. There is no problem starting with your favourite postion to begin with and working into the others over time.
so what's the best wasy to isolate pc muscles?? I find kegel more effective if done while sitting or laying in the bed... when I do them standing then I can't feel the flex really well... does this happen to somebody else?
Ya, like mystic mentioned, does anyone have an advice for isolation techniques besides practice? My abs are getting tired haha 
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I am actually didn't worry much about isolation when I first did kegels it was just something that developed over time. So I am little help.
Minuteman was big on isolation from the start though, you could pm him.
Minuteman was big on isolation from the start though, you could pm him.
Isolation is mostly about sensatory concentration and practice. Closing your eyes and really focusing on the muscles in that area helps.
While doing reverse kegels you should place a hand gently on your lover abs and try and do the reverse kegels without moving them as much as you can.
Also try to use imagination and imagine that your pelvic floor is dropping on the floor while you are standing, try to relax it but not push it out much and try to get a heavy feeling like you have a ball in your throusers.
Observation of your body in different situations also help, try to observe yourself more while you go and take a crap or when you urinate but don't force anything and don't do anything you are not doing, the normal movement of your body can teach you more.
Also as noted in an other topic if you have a tennis ball try and put it between your anus and your balls and sit on it for a 3-5 minutes when you strand you should feel stretched and relaxed more down there, try not to injure your self or something if you feel very uneasy when doing that don't bother with it there are other ways as noted above.
For starters learn how to clench your lover abs without clenching your but, then try to do a kegel without clenching your but, make some foundation of feeling to build uppon, and remember that total isolation requires time and practice.
While doing reverse kegels you should place a hand gently on your lover abs and try and do the reverse kegels without moving them as much as you can.
Also try to use imagination and imagine that your pelvic floor is dropping on the floor while you are standing, try to relax it but not push it out much and try to get a heavy feeling like you have a ball in your throusers.
Observation of your body in different situations also help, try to observe yourself more while you go and take a crap or when you urinate but don't force anything and don't do anything you are not doing, the normal movement of your body can teach you more.
Also as noted in an other topic if you have a tennis ball try and put it between your anus and your balls and sit on it for a 3-5 minutes when you strand you should feel stretched and relaxed more down there, try not to injure your self or something if you feel very uneasy when doing that don't bother with it there are other ways as noted above.
For starters learn how to clench your lover abs without clenching your but, then try to do a kegel without clenching your but, make some foundation of feeling to build uppon, and remember that total isolation requires time and practice.
What the hell, 50 reps of reverse and then of kegal in one sitting? you're going to get cancer of the balls and anus.
I have a question about reverse kegels and kegels in general. This has probably already been asked, but what are the advantages/disadvantages to doing either kegel erect? I usually do my routine flaccid while I watch TV or drive.
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Try doing them. The expansion you get is cool. Most people kegel when erect anyway. You'll get more use to it.
Oh and by most people do it erect.... I'm talking about the involuntary ones you get when masturbating or having sex.
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Alternate Kegels and Reverse Kegels. Do one kegel then do one Reverse kegel. Focus on what you feel. Do them slowly and with control. Isolation will happen.Ya, like mystic mentioned, does anyone have an advice for isolation techniques besides practice? My abs are getting tired haha
For doing kegels..should it feel like my penis is contracting and im holding the pee back and make it feel like its going reverse..or should the part between my anus and balls feel like there being pumped..cause i noticed if i really focus and try i make make them work at different times.
Hey guys thanks for the advice on isolation. It seems that I need to do some work on it as when I kegel, My BC muscle and anus all move, but when I get my Kegel "pulses" it is only my BC that moves, which so far I've been unable to isolate.
As for my "pulses" I have done some digging on the internet, and I think they actually potentially could be normal. I believe these "pulses" are involuntary, but they are not like a full on involuntary kegel (my dick doesn't suddenly surge upward). I believe (if they actually are normal, I've been lost trying to fix them with reverse kegels or regular kegels, and been for the most part unsuccessful) these pulses could be the Bulbocavernosus (BC) Reflex. A definition of this reflex can be found on wikipedia and here
The wiki article indicates that if you don't have this reflex you could have spinal shock or trauma.
What I want to know is what you guys think. Are my "pulses" normal? Has anyone else ever had them? Should I keep holding a reverse kegel trying to stop them or just let them pulse away.
Thanks for taking the time to read this, with my PE at the moment I'm almost at loss at what to do.
Still at 30 sec haha
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As for my "pulses" I have done some digging on the internet, and I think they actually potentially could be normal. I believe these "pulses" are involuntary, but they are not like a full on involuntary kegel (my dick doesn't suddenly surge upward). I believe (if they actually are normal, I've been lost trying to fix them with reverse kegels or regular kegels, and been for the most part unsuccessful) these pulses could be the Bulbocavernosus (BC) Reflex. A definition of this reflex can be found on wikipedia and here
The wiki article indicates that if you don't have this reflex you could have spinal shock or trauma.
What I want to know is what you guys think. Are my "pulses" normal? Has anyone else ever had them? Should I keep holding a reverse kegel trying to stop them or just let them pulse away.
Thanks for taking the time to read this, with my PE at the moment I'm almost at loss at what to do.
Still at 30 sec haha
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