REP Support for Phallosan Forte - Q & A

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I'm currently doing that,but it's very tight and really uncomfortable and digs into the skin. The large seems to fit fine and feels snug but not uncomfortable. I'm at 5.6 girth and figure I wouldn't have an issue.

I'm 5.75" girth and have to use both the large condom & bell, and the bell is especially tight, since I only pump it about 3 times max. My head doesn't ever slip out of the bell. If that's what is happening with the large condom on yours, either try reversing, using the medium bell if your head will fit along with the large condom. These are all interchangeable between medium & Large bells I think (probably not with the small bell). Just try different combinations. I'm betting you still should use the medium on the large or medium bell, though. If your head is slipping out of the bell under vacuum, try a smaller condom first. You need to keep your head in the bell firmly during all the wear time to get maximum benefits of the PF, that's for sure. That medium condom will likely stretch some with use, too, making it fit more comfortably.
 

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Hi y'all!
I'm 21 years old, and I just bought this product, I live in Mexico, so I don't know when I'll have it on my hands, or should I say on my groin?:rolleyes: *ba dum tsss*
I'm so excited because I can do something about my size.
Any recommendations? I want to get the most of it, and really increase both my girth and length, I'm not so sure about doing exercises, I tried once, but my parents were asking me what was I doing for so long in the bathroom, and well it was really awkward, but anyways, I'm always short on time, so I don't think I can get a productive session of jelqing, bit if that's the only way to maximize gains, I'll find time.
I'm around 6 1/4" in length (bone pressed), and 4 5/8" girth, I'm concerned about both, because not bone pressed, it's around 5" or less, I'm not fat, but not shredded either, and I hate that fatty tissue on the base, Idk why I gain so much fat there when I bulk.
My flaccid lenght is 3" and 4 1/2" bone pressed.
Also if someone else is from Mexico, I'd like to know how long will it take to arrive.
Thank you guys!

Edit: Forgot to mention that I'm uncircumcised, Idk if I have to do special things with the phallosan or the exercises because of the foreskin getting on the way.
 
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You can read up on PF usage and watch videos on the Phallosan site: Phallosan.com, or study the users brochure. Just MAKE SURE to build your time under tension slowly, like 4 hours first day, 5 next and so on. Watch your EQ & PI's to not over train. Also, even though it's not in the brochure, ALWAYS powder the sleeves and protective cap covering your glans both inside and out before each use. They will last much longer and not deform so much under heavy use. They are expensive to replace, so taking care with them is important!
 

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I'm currently doing that,but it's very tight and really uncomfortable and digs into the skin. The large seems to fit fine and feels snug but not uncomfortable. I'm at 5.6 girth and figure I wouldn't have an issue.

Just to add to Jock's wise words...you could also try leaving the medium condom rolled up over the large bell when not in use to stretch it (some have done that with success)...or use a thick elastic band over the large condom (obviously not too tight to cut off circulation) to prevent leakage.
 

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ALWAYS powder the sleeves and protective cap covering your glans both inside and out before each use. They will last much longer and not deform so much under heavy use. They are expensive to replace, so taking care with them is important!

Baby powder will do?

The maximum usage per day is 12 hours right? Should I wear it everyday once I reach that time, or rest days are adviced?
 

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Baby powder will do?

The maximum usage per day is 12 hours right? Should I wear it everyday once I reach that time, or rest days are adviced?

I wear mine 12-14 hours, but you should monitor your time based upon your conditioning & EQ / PI's. I'm very well conditioned. And Yes, baby powder works just fine or any non-medicated talc. Rest days are not necessary with the PF, but depending upon if you're doing supplemental PE exercises, I'd take the rest days according to your routine. I'm a bit of an unusual guy here in the gym. I seem to gain easily, I'm a "shower" and I believe I have malleable tunica and fascia layers that allow me to gain both girth and length fairly easily. Most guys don't have that advantage. I'm just "lucky" that way.:becky: ...your mileage may vary!
 

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Can anyone tell me: do any shops in the US carry the PF?

I went to a local sex shop and saw a ton of Bathmate stuff there, and it got me thinking, I'd love to be able to go pick one of these up rather than having it shipped from Europe. I know this is probably a long shot being a European product but, has anybody seen one in a local shop?
 

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My device is not holding suction anymore ... at all ... and it's incredibly frustrating. I thought maybe the condom sleeve was causing it to leak or something so I put a new one on and it's still doing the same thing. I've adjusted and put it on about 20 times already and after about 5-10 minutes it loses suction completely so I have to keep re-pumping it a million times. I think I need the bell/pump replaced. It's just been gradually getting worse over the last week.
 

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My device is not holding suction anymore ... at all ... and it's incredibly frustrating. I thought maybe the condom sleeve was causing it to leak or something so I put a new one on and it's still doing the same thing. I've adjusted and put it on about 20 times already and after about 5-10 minutes it loses suction completely so I have to keep re-pumping it a million times. I think I need the bell/pump replaced. It's just been gradually getting worse over the last week.

Have you pulled the pump assembly apart to clean/check the valve and tested the vacuum of the bell without a condom fitted against the palm of your hand?
 

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I've cleaned it a million times, but I haven't tested the bell against my hand, no. Will try that tonight. It didn't used to be like this at all. It would hold suction all day long. The only adjusting I needed to do was tension.
 

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I've cleaned it a million times, but I haven't tested the bell against my hand, no. Will try that tonight. It didn't used to be like this at all. It would hold suction all day long. The only adjusting I needed to do was tension.
Hi,
Just wondering if you have dismantled the pump to clean it and maybe misaligned the silicone seal in the end, the seal has a small hole in it which lines up with a hole in the top of the bell when in the pump position to remove air from the bell. When turned to the lock position the seal should block the hole in the bell to stop air entering and thus losing vacuum. If this is not the problem then maybe the seal has worn allowing air to enter the bell.
 
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This was posted in another thread and I'm sure most of you guys will find this intriguing reading. Many thanks to the Prof for supplying this data...


Hi All - I am a social science professor with a background in statistics. So naturally I was excited to find that there's a lot of data on phallosan users' results. I analyzed that data statistically (using multiple regression analysis, for those with some statistical training) and found some results that I think may be very useful to the PE community.

THE DATA

I pooled data from two sources:
a) the phallosan user gains tables at http://www.phallosan-forte-review.com/;
b) the phallosan user gains table on pegym.com:
https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-devices-forum/66173-phallosan-user-gains-table.html

These tables contain much of the same data so I eliminated duplicates. I also restricted to phallosan users who reported the following data: total gains, days of use, and hours per day. If a user did not report the use of any other PE methods, I assumed he did used the phallosan only.

KEY RESULTS

All of the following findings refer to gains in erect length. I restricted my study to that outcome, since it is the one that is most consistently reported by phallosan users.

I found that there are diminishing returns in phallosan usage. In particular, gains per day grow as a function of hours per day until hours per day reach 11.25; after this they decline. Apparently your body needs sufficient "down time" to recover and rebuild. One can see this in above data tables: there are a few people who used the phallosan for 20 hours per day, and their gains were zero or close to it.

Thus, if your goal is simply to gain as fast as possible and you face no constraints on your phallosan usage, you should wear the phallosan for 11.25 hours per day. Then you will gain on average .003812 inches in erect length per day. Thus, it will take you about 262 days (the reciprocal of .003812) to gain one inch.

That being said, the last hour or two in the day are not critical. E.g., if you use the phallosan for 10 hours per day, it will take 272 days to gain one inch. Not much of a difference! If you keep decreasing your hours, it does start to get meaningful. For instance, if you put in 9 hours per day it will take 295 days to gain an inch; with 8 hours per day it will take 341 days. So given the inconvenience and discomfort of the device, 10 hours is probably a reasonable target.

I also looked at the use of other devices together with the phallosan. Not surprisingly given all the hype and "best product" awards, pumps (Bathmate, Penomet, etc.) turn out to be extremely helpful. Adding a pump to your routine increases your daily length gain by a whopping .005447 inches! Thus, if you use the phallosan for 11.25 hours per day plus a pump (assume for the recommended time), you will gain .009259 inches per day. This means you will gain 1 inch in only 108 days - amazing.

I also considered jelqing and "other methods" (clamping, manual stretching, etc.). Surprisingly, among phallosan users these techniques do not add anything. That is, the results of those who used such techniques were statistically indistinguishable from those who used phallosan alone, or phallosan and a pump. Incidentally, some researchers in Australia have found that jelqing can cause erectile disfunction due to veno-occlusive dysfunction: see http://repository.um.edu.my/37810/1/BJUI supplement 2014 USANZ.pdf. Hence, given that jelqing doesn't help phallosan users, it seems sensible to avoid it.

A few caveats are in order, as follows.

1. I only studied effects on erect length.

2. The above numbers are estimates. Your actual results may vary, depending on genetics, prior experience with PE, etc.

3. As mentioned, I only studied phallosan users. For instance, if you use phallosan, then adding a pump increases your gains by .005447 inches per day as stated above. If you only pump, your gains may be more or less than this figure. For instance, there may be positive synergies between pumping and the phallosan, so that pumping alone would not help as much.

3. Similarly, my finding that jelqing and other methods don't help is restricted to phallosan users. They could conceivably be helpful if you don't use the phallosan, particularly as some - such as manual stretching - work in the same way as the phallosan.
 
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I actually use my bathmate a lot afterwards. I also been pumping and using the pump for internal stretches and then go into my phallosan when I'm done
 

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Another post from the Prof...

Hi All,

I checked the effects of initial length and whether or not to take rest days on gains per day. These effects were statistically insignificant. That is, there is no evidence that initial length affects gains per day, or that those who take rest days grow more in length for each day of phallosan use.

Summarizing my findings, men of all initial sizes can benefit equally from the phallosan. Moreover, in order to gain length as fast as possible in calendar time, one should use the phallosan for 10 to 11 hours per day, without rest days. If you also pump, you will more than double your rate of gains. But other methods such as jelqing, clamping, manual stretching, and so on will not help you gain faster once you are using the phallosan.

Best,
DataWonk
 

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Hey guys I'm having trouble keeping the seal on my phallosan so I've been using a rubber band.

This helps, however, after about an hour or two it starts hurting, where the band is, and I need to shift it over etc.

Is there another way to keep that seal or am I just going to have to do this every other hour during the day?

Idk how you guys wear it for 4+ hours on straight with work etc.
 

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Corn starch, or baby powder can help. Mostly the smaller condom.
 

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Hey guys I'm having trouble keeping the seal on my phallosan so I've been using a rubber band.

This helps, however, after about an hour or two it starts hurting, where the band is, and I need to shift it over etc.

Is there another way to keep that seal or am I just going to have to do this every other hour during the day?

Idk how you guys wear it for 4+ hours on straight with work etc.

Sounds like you're using a condom sleeve that's too large, or it is not properly sealed around the ridge on the bell. Try using a smaller condom and/or bell combination to get a good seal. I have never had a problem keeping the vac on mine all day/night.
 

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Congrats on your PF purchase. Follow jock's advice on starting at low tension/time and building up. I too am uncircumcised and feel that this makes our glans more sensitive when being retracted and put under pressure (blisters take weeks to heal and sideline progress, but can be avoided with patience and listening to your body).

User "Kickinthemebs" has a great "Phallosan tips" compilation of his experience with it (if you haven't already, you should read it and definitely follow his suggestions).

Hi y'all!
I'm 21 years old, and I just bought this product, I live in Mexico, so I don't know when I'll have it on my hands, or should I say on my groin?:rolleyes: *ba dum tsss*
I'm so excited because I can do something about my size.
Any recommendations? I want to get the most of it, and really increase both my girth and length, I'm not so sure about doing exercises, I tried once, but my parents were asking me what was I doing for so long in the bathroom, and well it was really awkward, but anyways, I'm always short on time, so I don't think I can get a productive session of jelqing, bit if that's the only way to maximize gains, I'll find time.
I'm around 6 1/4" in length (bone pressed), and 4 5/8" girth, I'm concerned about both, because not bone pressed, it's around 5" or less, I'm not fat, but not shredded either, and I hate that fatty tissue on the base, Idk why I gain so much fat there when I bulk.
My flaccid lenght is 3" and 4 1/2" bone pressed.
Also if someone else is from Mexico, I'd like to know how long will it take to arrive.
Thank you guys!

Edit: Forgot to mention that I'm uncircumcised, Idk if I have to do special things with the phallosan or the exercises because of the foreskin getting on the way.
 

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Hi Julian,

I posted a message on the introduction forum explaining that I have begun using phallosan. I had some replies saying I should be stretching and jelqing for a while before I use the Phallosan. Is this usually recommended?

I built up the timing of using it slowly in the first week and now I am in the second week. I wore it for 10 hours today without pain or any signs of injury. Just swollen foreskin.

Thanks,
CJ
 

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So yeah ... my Phallosan is utterly useless now. It no longer holds suction ... at all. Tried the recommendation about pumping against the hand ... also tried it against my thigh ... it does absolutely nothing. Not even the slightest hint that suction has taken place. It'll only hold the glans in place for about 10 seconds before coming out of the bell. I need a replacement bell/pump. This is incredibly frustrating.