REP Support for Phallosan Forte - Q & A

[Tamora]

Although I appreciate the response, that doesn't really answer my question. How often is "gradually" and by how much? I'm asking experienced users here what they've done and how they've achieved their best results. Is gradually once a week? Every couple weeks? A month?

I'm aware of the documentation because it comes with the device. I know it says the protector cap can stop being used after a while, but I've also read from users that they still get edema unless they use the cap. I also read from another user about using self-stick tape around the glans to prevent edema and also allows a quicker way to take it off and on again because, unlike the cap, you can still take a piss with the tape on. So I was just curious if anyone else has had experience with this. For the first few weeks, I just plan on using it for 2-3 hours a day around bedtime, which is what I've done for the first week. Then bump it up to 6-8 hours while I sleep (I barely move when I sleep, so it's not an issue ... I actually fell asleep with it on one night this week with no problems).

Thanks for the help though, I appreciate it.

There doesn't seem to be any hard and fast rules that I'm aware of regarding tension increases apart from what you feel comfortable with and watching out for positive and negative PI's. You have to remember that the PF is not a precision instrument as far as tension is concerned and that it is going to fluctuate during use depending on what you are doing. I increased from low green to high green/low yellow after a couple of weeks and have maintained this ever since.

I have no experience with the tape but I can see how this could be another method...either way, for me, it's just another way of achieving the same thing. I don't use the protector cap anymore and personally I'm not bothered by a bit of edema...it soon subsides.

There is also a general consensus from experienced PE'ers that NO DEVICE, no matter how safe you think it is, should be used or worn while sleeping...just to avoid the chance of waking up with a brilliantly wonderful shade of blue todger.

 

[Tamora]

Ok, I'm on my 4th day wearing my PF. Going great, overall, but i have a large flaccid 6"X 5.25", and I have a bit of difficulty getting my head into the largest bell. Kinda have to jam him in there! Also, my large condom sleeve has already started to split at the base, where my girth is a little bigger. I'm trying to stretch the sleeve more by leaving it rolled up around the bell when not in use. Any other ideas? Do they make an X-LG sleeve?

One more question, does it matter how you wear the foam ring? I tried it around just my shaft first, but after 2 hours, the base of my shaft started tingling and was getting progressively painful. While I'm very experienced wearing a steel cock ring, I have never worn one around my shaft. Mine go around my entire package (much more comfortable for me). So, I tried the foam ring around my entire package (beneath my balls) and it has alleviated ALL discomfort! Question is, does this change the tug effectiveness? Will I still get maximum stretch from the PF tension with the foam ring worn beneath my balls too? I can't see why that would make a difference, and it's MUCH more comfortable for me. Any opinions?

Welcome to the wonderful world of friction burn on the old todger Jock...nice to have you on board!

There's no XL condom as yet but others have used silicon sleeves instead of the condom and, as far as I'm aware, this has worked fine.

Others have worn the ring like you suggest to avoid the "ol'chinese burn" and for comfort...I've not heard anything negative about this and, again, I think you're in the "experimental" stage. Personally, I think as long as you can still feel the pull on your shaft it should be fine.

 

[jockinthebox]

Welcome to the wonderful world of friction burn on the old todger Jock...nice to have you on board!

There's no XL condom as yet but others have used silicon sleeves instead of the condom and, as far as I'm aware, this has worked fine.

Others have worn the ring like you suggest to avoid the "ol'chinese burn" and for comfort...I've not heard anything negative about this and, again, I think you're in the "experimental" stage. Personally, I think as long as you can still feel the pull on your shaft it should be fine.

Thanks, Tamora! Where do you get silicone sleeves, and what size should I get? Won't a plain sleeve slip off the bell without the groove to lock it onto the bell, like the PF sleeves have?

 

[Tamora]

Thanks, Tamora! Where do you get silicone sleeves, and what size should I get? Won't a plain sleeve slip off the bell without the groove to lock it onto the bell, like the PF sleeves have?

That info is buried somewhere in these 470 odd pages Jock...but ABS silicon sleeves springs to mind? As far as size is concerned I think you should get the widest Mo' Fo' you can find!

Seriously though...I'm not sure on size as I've never used them. They are pretty stretchy and grippy though and should grip over the lip of the bell...the pull is on the bell and the condom is there just to seal the vacuum...can't see that being a problem. Never heard anything negative with using them...maybe some other "wise head" who's used them will see this and reply...although answers don't tend to come thick and fast on this thread!

 

[Jaw Breaker]

There doesn't seem to be any hard and fast rules that I'm aware of regarding tension increases apart from what you feel comfortable with and watching out for positive and negative PI's. You have to remember that the PF is not a precision instrument as far as tension is concerned and that it is going to fluctuate during use depending on what you are doing. I increased from low green to high green/low yellow after a couple of weeks and have maintained this ever since.

I have no experience with the tape but I can see how this could be another method...either way, for me, it's just another way of achieving the same thing. I don't use the protector cap anymore and personally I'm not bothered by a bit of edema...it soon subsides.

There is also a general consensus from experienced PE'ers that NO DEVICE, no matter how safe you think it is, should be used or worn while sleeping...just to avoid the chance of waking up with a brilliantly wonderful shade of blue todger.

That was more helpful, thank you.

As for sleeping with it ... sleep is literally the only time of the day I can actually wear the thing. I hardly move at night and sleep on my back, so there's not really a chance of sleeping with it weird. My schedule is far too hectic to be wearing it with any sort of comfort. I tried wearing it during the day with everything I have going on and it was just a massive, uncomfortable inconvenience. Acquiring a blueish-purple penis is not one of my goals, though. >_>

 

[Spoonman84]

God "blessed" me with a "shower" penis and low-hanger balls to boot! But because I'm a "shower", I don't get the erect expansion most "grower" guys get. My BPEL is only 7.0" X 5.75 "MEG, my BEG is closer to 6". Do they make XL condom sleeves for the PF? Why does it matter if you wear the foam ring around your entire package? I'm still showing good tension on the PF hanger. Any others wear theirs this way?

Hey jock any interest in trading your 2 mediums for my 2 larges? I just got mine in and havent used mine nor will I need them as the medium fits good.

 

[jockinthebox]

Hey jock any interest in trading your 2 mediums for my 2 larges? I just got mine in and havent used mine nor will I need them as the medium fits good.

Donno, Spoonman. I've already ripped one of my larges only 2 days into using my PF. I may just order some wide silicone sleeves from ABS, like Tamora recommended. You probably should hang onto your Large ones too, since you may gain girth too using the PF.

Also, if you contact Julian, he will likely just have some mediums sent to you. Worth an ask!

 

[Tamora]

Hey jock any interest in trading your 2 mediums for my 2 larges? I just got mine in and havent used mine nor will I need them as the medium fits good.

Hey Spooney...apart from asking Julian for some like Jock said, there was also talk a little while ago about starting a "swap shop" thread for unused condoms...dunno if you saw that?

Might be worth giving it a go maybe...obviously new condoms unopened and still sealed in their packaging...and as long as it's not against forum rules?

 

[Spoonman84]

Anybody know a good free phone app to keep a time log?

 

[Frankrizzo0420]

I just ordered the phallosan forte from phallosan.us I got the confirmation email from Swiss Sana Anstalt. Did I order an official pf???? Please help. Also, do I get free sleeves with this order?

 

[Tamora]

I just ordered the phallosan forte from phallosan.us I got the confirmation email from Swiss Sana Anstalt. Did I order an official pf???? Please help. Also, do I get free sleeves with this order?

Yes...SSA is the company...Phallosan Forte is a trading name. You now get (if memory serves me right) 2 small, 3 medium and 2 large in the box instead of one of each...so no more free 3 condoms.

 

[sorrymsjacksonwoowoo]

I'm having some major issues and I have a question or two.

First, a little background. I have logged approximately 382 hours in 6 weeks. Most of this time i have been between the high green and mid yellow range, but I sometimes went into the high yellow. There is always some expansion of the glans within the chamber that lasts a few minutes after removing the device.

Now to my first issue. I have been developing major irritation around the urethra. I assumed this is from some urine dripping and have been trying to very thoroughly shake out every last bit before I put the device back on. In spite of my efforts, the problem has persisted to the point where I have had some very gross irritation and extreme pain that I won't describe here. I resorted to applying Aquaphor to my glans every day, but even that only mitigated the problem. Now I'm unsure if the Aquaphor actually made things worse, it's hard to tell. Sometimes it would look better only to shortly thereafter look and feel much worse. I don't know what to do because I can't bring baby powder with me everywhere I go and inevitably there is at least a tiny bit of urine that comes out of my urethra after urination. Is it possible that this is from having the belt too tight and exerting too much pressure on the glans?

My second issue is that I (always) get pain around the base of my penis from the ring. I have mitigated the problem significantly by placing a sock around the base of my penis before attaching the ring for extra cushioning. Is there any way to get around this?

Third, is there a way to make this a little more stealthy? I have wrapped a sock around the bell and that makes the line less noticeable, but it's still there and I feel very awkward about it. I get nervous about hugging my girlfriend for fear that she will feel it.

Lastly, and importantly, will I lose all of my progress if I have to take time off?

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

[Tamora]

...Now to my first issue. I have been developing major irritation around the urethra. I assumed this is from some urine dripping and have been trying to very thoroughly shake out every last bit before I put the device back on. In spite of my efforts, the problem has persisted to the point where I have had some very gross irritation and extreme pain that I won't describe here. I resorted to applying Aquaphor to my glans every day, but even that only mitigated the problem. Now I'm unsure if the Aquaphor actually made things worse, it's hard to tell. Sometimes it would look better only to shortly thereafter look and feel much worse. I don't know what to do because I can't bring baby powder with me everywhere I go and inevitably there is at least a tiny bit of urine that comes out of my urethra after urination. Is it possible that this is from having the belt too tight and exerting too much pressure on the glans?...

Not sure what's causing your problem but I do think you're doing too much too soon. Either take a break until you heal or slacken off on the tension. High green/low yellow is enough...it's a marathon, not a sprint. You could always buy a small container and carry some baby powder around with you.

...My second issue is that I (always) get pain around the base of my penis from the ring. I have mitigated the problem significantly by placing a sock around the base of my penis before attaching the ring for extra cushioning. Is there any way to get around this?...

This is a problem for many after extended use and I haven't seen it resolved as yet. Obviously, slackening off the tension will help and also making sure the ring isn't doing the pulling but the bell is.

...Third, is there a way to make this a little more stealthy? I have wrapped a sock around the bell and that makes the line less noticeable, but it's still there and I feel very awkward about it. I get nervous about hugging my girlfriend for fear that she will feel it...

Not really...it is what it is. Maybe tell your girlfriend so as you don't have to hide it?

...Lastly, and importantly, will I lose all of my progress if I have to take time off?...

You shouldn't do...the gains are supposed to be permanent.

 

[sorrymsjacksonwoowoo]

Thank you for your response!

 

[Frankrizzo0420]

What is the specific purpose of the vacuum bell?

 

[Tamora]

What is the specific purpose of the vacuum bell?

Check out the Phallosan website...that should tell you all you need to know.

 

[seikatsu]

Just pump 2-3x that way the glans doesnt expand too much and cause problems with the urethra. I used to have similar problems until I found this out. Also, I have been regularly using the protector cap even though I have used this for months and that has definitely help with the skin issues. I can wear the PF for at least 5-6 hours max without issues then I take it off for like 30 minutes and resume for another 3-4 hours, break, then back again. I average at least 10 and usually 12 hours daily...love the pf.

 

[Frankrizzo0420]

Check out the Phallosan website...that should tell you all you need to know.

The site didn't really explain it. It's the vacuum bell made for comfort only? Or does it serve another purpose?

 

[Tamora]

The site didn't really explain it. It's the vacuum bell made for comfort only? Or does it serve another purpose?

It's to hold the head of your penis under micro-vacuum while stretching instead of using a noose, etc.

 

[jockinthebox]

What is the specific purpose of the vacuum bell?

It's just what you said! It forms a vacuum to create the necessary stretch, the condom sleeve seals against the shaft to "spread the tension" along the shaft. This effectively is what makes the PF work! Time under tension is the best way to achieve permanent cemented gains using the PF for PE. At least this is my understanding of how PF works. I'm a newbie, but it seems to be working very effectively, so far, for me!