Phallosan Forte with TLC belt mod and my wrapping technique

[red_nose]

Kickinthemebs. I am just trying to figure out, what we different people, describe as fatigue. For example, many guys say they begin to feel fatigue at 10 lbs hanging, while for some the fatigue sets in at 20 or even 30 lbs. The generel idea seems to be a deep ache at the base and ligaments. So either people respond differently to the same amount of tension, or people have different ideas of what fatigue is. The former is probably the truest.
Your absolutely right about tension on the hip, i noticed it from time to time, i always pull out on the bell and try to make sure most of the tension is at the dick. I have also tried to put the belt at a higher angle, over the hipbone, that way it seems that i get a more even pull.
One thing i can add to the thread that might be usefull to some, is applying the knee and shoulder strap from the tlc company. I used the VLC tugger for about 2 weeks in january, before i got hands on the phallosan, it is a good ADS, but i got a small tear from it at my frenulum unfortunately. But i found out a way to get an even pull from the kneestrap, i think you could do the same with the phallosan.

1. secure the clip from the strap, to the tension clip.
2. pull the strap, at a desired tension, just under the knee, from the inside and around.
3. once the strap has made its first turn, fold it over itself and do another 3/4 turn.
4. At the end of the 3/4 turn, fold the strap over itself a couple of times and pull the remaining part up the tension clip and attach the clip to the beginning part of the strap.

That way you get a pull from two angles, which makes it more constant and with more tension.
Hope it makes sense.

 

[DreamOn]

Really cool that the tlc strap is so comfortable, i got one allready, just did´nt think it would be better than the belt that came with the phallosan, will diffinetly give it a try. Dreamon, when you feel fatigued, is it in the ligaments and at the base? I have been wearing the phallosan for around 200 hours now, and the kind of tiredness i get is in the glans if there is any.

I get fatigued at the base and sometimes at the shaft, I also get sore at the glans after wearing it for long periods without any break (6-8+ hours). The edema builds up at the glans after a while but it goes away really quick for me for 30 minutes to an hour usually.

Hey DreamOn, thanks for your post and your tips. One question, did you order the day or night-time belt?

I ordered the day time belt there is really no difference between the two the ONLY difference is the placement of the needle pin where you strap the end of the belt (like how PMP expander works). I recommend you order the day time belt though because that's what I bought and it works for me for both day time and sleep time wear.

 

[DreamOn]

There are few members here that asked me what exactly it looks like when I am wearing the TLC belt with the PF. I am not comfortable enough to show my dick to the world yet, but I will try to find an alternative way to show a picture of exactly how I wear the PF with the TLC belt mod. Please, believe my words guys I am genuine about what I said here I believe that the TLC belt is the BEST BELT IN THE MARKET. I highly recommend this product and I even dare say that every Phallosan Forte owner should ditch the belt that came in with it and use the TLC belt.

I will post a picture of what it looks like when I am wearing it without any nudity or any pictures of my dick so everyone can see just exactly why I support this product so much and why I love it so much. I pretty much wear it the same technique as how you would normally wear the PF with the comfort belt WITHOUT the ring. Instead, I loop the belt around my thigh and attach the end of the belt that has the clip on the needle pin that is also attached somewhere in the belt depending whether you have the day time or night time belt. I could wear the PF in one side without EVER having to switch because there is no more ring attached at the base of my dick. I'm sorry if I can't explain it well enough for some of you but I will try to post the picture soon so that everyone can see the brilliance of this belt.

AND YES its as stealthy as ever I could wear it with even tight jeans and NOBODY would detect it because it is being worn like how the traditional way you wear the Phallosan Forte JUST MINUS THE RING.

 

[DreamOn]

The TLC strap is such a steal for $7 and ultimately $13 with shipping included are you freaking kidding me?!?!?! And it's better than ESL40 knee strap, PMP expander belt, PF belt, etc. This belt is the KING OF ALL PE BELTS OUT THERE.

 

[DreamOn]

Oh and once again I would like to thank pizard for suggesting and introducing me to the TLC strap I could never thank you enough man you are the best!!!!!

 

[Mr. Magoo]

yeah, I like that strap too! Used it extensively a few years ago.

Dream On and others, could one use the TLC strap and use the
plastic dome from "autoextender" and his silicon thing (I'm not
sure what he calls it on his site) and have a "poor mans"
PF, for maybe $40-$50 ???? I found the auto-extender dome really
comfortable when using it. One could even use a scientific
hanging weight scale on the reverse side if you wanted to
monitor the tension????

 

[kickinthemebs]

Cheers DreamOn, I will order my belt in the next few days. I have been waiting on replacement comfort rings from phallosan for weeks now. Bet the TLC belt will come before those will even though they are being shipped from a different continent. Is there a consistent pull with the TLC belt or does it change? Also, at what hour do you think you will measure again?

Oh and once again I would like to thank pizard for suggesting and introducing me to the TLC strap I could never thank you enough man you are the best!!!!!

 

[kickinthemebs]

I was having a look on that site a few weeks ago and think you could definitely make a poor man's phallosan for a fraction of the costs! The phallosan's bell/pump/tension system is the best by a mile from the extenders I have seen online, but that doesn't mean you could make something quite similar for a much lower price

yeah, I like that strap too! Used it extensively a few years ago.

Dream On and others, could one use the TLC strap and use the
plastic dome from "autoextender" and his silicon thing (I'm not
sure what he calls it on his site) and have a "poor mans"
PF, for maybe $40-$50 ???? I found the auto-extender dome really
comfortable when using it. One could even use a scientific
hanging weight scale on the reverse side if you wanted to
monitor the tension????

 

[DreamOn]

yeah, I like that strap too! Used it extensively a few years ago.

Dream On and others, could one use the TLC strap and use the
plastic dome from "autoextender" and his silicon thing (I'm not
sure what he calls it on his site) and have a "poor mans"
PF, for maybe $40-$50 ???? I found the auto-extender dome really
comfortable when using it. One could even use a scientific
hanging weight scale on the reverse side if you wanted to
monitor the tension????

I own the vacextender mod from auto-extender I have that plastic dome and the silicone sleeve that came with it and yes you can definitely use the TLC belt for that!!!! I can't say it's a poor man's version of the PF because I spent around $230 if I remember correctly so it's still expensive, but to answer your question yes definitely you can.

 

[Skinny_Rattler]

I may may end up buying one after all. I start back next week using the PF for another 3mths this belt may be a better fit.

Oh and once again I would like to thank pizard for suggesting and introducing me to the TLC strap I could never thank you enough man you are the best!!!!!

 

[DreamOn]

Cheers DreamOn, I will order my belt in the next few days. I have been waiting on replacement comfort rings from phallosan for weeks now. Bet the TLC belt will come before those will even though they are being shipped from a different continent. Is there a consistent pull with the TLC belt or does it change? Also, at what hour do you think you will measure again?

Honestly, forget those comfort rings once you go TLC belt you will never go back yes there is a consistent accurate pull with the TLC belt if you wear it the way PF is traditionally worn. If you try to wear it on the knee or anywhere else or any other technique there won't be consistent accurate pull. The fact that you can wear it like PF traditional style means you have consistent pull and you have THE MOST STEALTHIEST technique too WITHOUT the comfort ring which means NO DISCOMFORT AT ALL.

The TLC strap has a pin needle that is attached on the belt now take your PF belt attach it to the plastic clip but don't wear the comfort ring around the base of the shaft INSTEAD make it go around your waist like your normally do then loop the belt to the thigh for example if you wear the belt on the right side make the belt go around your waist like you normally do but instead of going all the way around loop it on the LEFT thigh but you cant because you have the comfort belt instead of a clip so just imagine that's how I am wearing my TLC strap right now and I can wear it like that because there is a pin needle I can attach it too once I loop it around my thigh (YES what genius method its just like the expander belt of PMP except ITS CHEAP AND WAY BETTER)


I forgot to add I am going to measure at 3000 hours currently im at around 2700

 

[DreamOn]

My fellow PF owners please believe in me please take a chance please take a leap of faith!!!!!!! Throw away your PF comfort belt and buy the TLC strap ENJOY THE FREEDOM OF COMFORT THAT I DISCOVERED!!!!!!!!!!!! Every PF owner should read this thread spread the word!!!!! Today there shall be no more discomfort for any PF users who is willing enough to take a leap of faith into my new found love TLC belt and try the technique I am describing in this thread!!!!!!!!!!

 

[kickinthemebs]

I am well curious to see how your gains are after the long break you took. Did you put the tension back up to red already since your break?

 

[DreamOn]

I posted photos yes there are naked photos so be aware enter at your own risk!!!! I won't have the naked photos up for long only within 48 hours so check them out now if you want to see what I am trying to describe visually!!!!!!

DreamOn's Album: Phallosan Forte with TLC belt mod

 

[DreamOn]

I am well curious to see how your gains are after the long break you took. Did you put the tension back up to red already since your break?

I am at high yellow to low red I am getting there hopefully I made gains but I don't see any noticeable difference in size so far.

 

[Mr. Magoo]

DreamOn,
I like that wrapping pattern you use. Clever. From using the
same TLC extensively in the past, I found the wrapping pattern
was the trick. I was using it with the autoextender (VAC ADS4),
and got some good tension with it.

Problem was, I was wrapping the knee, logged a zillion hours
with no results because the tension was not constant (lost
tension when I sat).

I checked, and the VAC ADS 4 sells for $79, or $69 for the
ADS 3. I've used both and feel the ADS 4 gives better tension.

So for someone not wanting to monitor tension, they theoritically
now could spend the $79 (VAC 4) + $7 (TLC strap) = $86 (plus shipping) for a
decent all day extender.

Havn't used it this way so I don't know for sure, but if this strap works, I don't
see why it could not be adapted to the VAC 4 with the same wrapping pattern
you suggested.

BTW, which length strap are you using, I believe the TLC guy sells 2 lengths?

Anyway great tips, and thanks for sharing what's working for you.

 

[DreamOn]

DreamOn,
I like that wrapping pattern you use. Clever. From using the
same TLC extensively in the past, I found the wrapping pattern
was the trick. I was using it with the autoextender (VAC ADS4),
and got some good tension with it.

Problem was, I was wrapping the knee, logged a zillion hours
with no results because the tension was not constant (lost
tension when I sat).

I checked, and the VAC ADS 4 sells for $79, or $69 for the
ADS 3. I've used both and feel the ADS 4 gives better tension.

So for someone not wanting to monitor tension, they theoritically
now could spend the $79 (VAC 4) + $7 (TLC strap) = $86 (plus shipping) for a
decent all day extender.

Havn't used it this way so I don't know for sure, but if this strap works, I don't
see why it could not be adapted to the VAC 4 with the same wrapping pattern
you suggested.

BTW, which length strap are you using, I believe the TLC guy sells 2 lengths?

Anyway great tips, and thanks for sharing what's working for you.

The wrapping technique I do is just like how you would wrap with the traditional way of the Phallosan Forte except mine doesn't have comfort ring you attach to the base instead it's looped around the opposite thigh SO you get ACCURATE tension even if you move a lot YES its just as good as the traditional way of wearing the PF and YES it is as stealthy as ever. I could wear it with even tight jeans and even then it's still undetectable. Now you have ultimate comfort being able to stay in one side for UNLIMITED time without discomfort AT ALL. Now you can wear it at a high tension and be able to go to the movie theater and watch a 2 hour movie without having to worry about taking a break during the middle of the movie because you feel discomfort and you have to switch sides NO THAT IS ALL GONE. This is why I say that every Phallosan Forte owner should disown their comfort belt and buy the TLC strap and use the same method I use I promise you all you will not regret it and it's not like it's going to cost you a lot its freaking $7 + $6 with shipping are you kidding me?!?!?! Who could find a brilliant genius belt at that price range hell even that is better than the PMP's over $100 expander belt. If you have a similar device like a PF such as VAC ads, PMP, ESL40, etc. YOU SHOULD BE USING THIS STRAP AND WRAPPING you will pretty much have a PF based-PF style extender.

Yes, any similar vacuum type device that uses a dome such as ESL40, PF, PMP, VacADS can be used with this same strapping technique and you pretty much have a Phallosan Forte style extender without the comfort ring that is NOT COMFORTABLE AT ALL.


Edit: Oh and forgot to add I bought the normal size ones and I bought the day time strap this technique worked with the day time strap and I could use this same strapping method whether I am sleeping or up and active the only difference between the day and night time belts are the PLACEMENT OF THE PIN NEEDLE. So don't buy both just either/or that is just another way of TLC trying to hopefully make more money but I do support him so if you would like to have both of those straps then go ahead buy both. It's just the only difference is the pin needle placement nothing else and I've already proven that the day time belt works for MY method regardless if I'm sleeping or active.

I also bought the normal sized belts because I am a pretty average guy and I didn't think I would need the extra inch longer ones and the normal sized one worked perfectly for me.

With the PF + TLC belt I AM IN CLOUD NINE IN COMFORT HEAVEN BABY!!!!!!!!!!

 

[DreamOn]

Hey guys, I am really not ready or comfortable yet to have those photos up but since some of you might have hopefully seen it by now I am hoping that some of you can better explain my wrapping method to others. I am counting on guys like kickinthemebs, Mr. Magoo, pizard, red nose, skinny_rattler, etc. to hopefully give a better explanation should others ask similar questions.

Ultimately, I believe that the PF and TLC belt are the best combinations for ultimate comfort, accurate tension, and most stealthiest method in my honest opinion and review of these products.

 

[headingfor8]

That method of wrapping the strap round your opposite thigh is definitely far superior to the official way of wearing the PF belt. The weak link has always been the comfort ring round the base of the penis. No matter how much you pad it that always starts to get sore after a while. This arrangement where there's nothing round the base is much more comfortable. Also maintains a nice consistent tension.

Not sure you need a new strap though. I'm trying it out with the original comfort belt and it seems to work very nicely. (Finally a use for how ridiculously long it is!)

 

[DreamOn]

That method of wrapping the strap round your opposite thigh is definitely far superior to the official way of wearing the PF belt. The weak link has always been the comfort ring round the base of the penis. No matter how much you pad it that always starts to get sore after a while. This arrangement where there's nothing round the base is much more comfortable. Also maintains a nice consistent tension.

Not sure you need a new strap though. I'm trying it out with the original comfort belt and it seems to work very nicely. (Finally a use for how ridiculously long it is!)

Yes, I've tried that method as well long before I even started wondering off of other straps/belts. The thing is the PF belt doesn't have a clip so I tried using the Velcro strap at the end when I loop it around my thigh but this started fucking up the belt and it wasn't as comfortable for some reason the tightness was really digging into my skin. It does work though with the PF belt but it will definitely ruin the belt and in my experience wasn't comfortable compared to the TLC belt. And YES YOU ARE DEFINITELY RIGHT hence why I dare say in this thread that EVERY PF owner should disown their belt and buy this belt instead I mean its only $7 what can you possibly lose?! It's far more superior than the traditional way of the PF MINUS the comfort belt attachment at the base.