petrpan's progress thread

[petrpan]

So, couple of notes:
I switched to 3.5kg yesterday. Also I switched to hanging while sitting and try to lean backwards a bit as this seems to provide much greater stretch - especially to my ligs. I believe yesterday I finally got to know how fatigue feels. I did only one 20min set , but I definitely wouldn't manage to hang same amount of weight in the next set.

Also I realized that while it is good to track your progress by measuring yourself from time to time, it is not about the numbers. It's about getting bigger in long term. The biggest success stories come from guys who managed to persist and continued PE for years. This is the key to success. It's all about expectations and your mind set. I think the biggest issue here is that all the new guys don't beleive this 100% and they have the need to measure to get some proof. When they get stuck or don't see the gain they expected they give up. But rulers should be rather used just to give you more information about what is working for you and when is the time to change your routine or for a deconditioning break.
From now on I will strictly measure myself only once a month for the purpose mentioned above. I think even once a month is still quite often, but as I said. If you use the numbers for the right reasons (track and optimize) and don't care too much about every single gain, then I guess it should be OK.
I believe my mindset has already changed, but only time will tell whether this thread will become one of those inspirational threads or not.
EDIT: I base my conclusions above on all the success stories I have read recently. And trust me when I say I read over 90% of the stories in the Success forum - took me quite a while, but where else should one gather knowledge from than from the successful people..

Question for vac hangers: Guys, whenever I use my cheap chinese vac ads for hanging, top third of my glans shows some kind of edema/temp blistering (just for a few minutes) after a 20min set. It is a bit annoying, because it is uncomfortable towards the end of each set, plus it limits the times of my sets. Is there anything I can do to fight it. How does LG hanger differ that people can hang 20lbs no problem? I want that - preferably homemade..
EDIT: I figured out how to overcome this issue. I used to use just one stripe of micropore tape over my pee hole. Now I am actually doing a cross with this tape and it's all much better and comfortable. Taking the tape off has been also a struggle originally, but now I just soak it in water, cover it with my foresking for a couple of minutes and then peel it off.

EDIT: Btw this is my original success thread. https://www.pegym.com/forums/success-forum/69390-success-after-2months.html
Looking at it almost 5 years later it is a typical success thread of a newbie that had quick success, but no persistence.
To be honest one of the factors I quit was I had a wife and what I thought was satisfactory sex life, so I decided to fall into the comfortable side. But since then I realized everything can be better including my and my wife's sex life. That's the main reason I am back.

 

[petrpan]

Sooo, yesterday I did around 3h of jelqing because I had time... My penis felt good afterwards, but in the evening I did also 40mins of hanging with my Vac ADS and got some temp fluid build up in the top third of my glans. It was actually quite sensitive/painful. Today it is only painful. Not a big pain, I have felt it before and thought it was from stretching actually. But now I know the real cause. It is pretty annoying because otherwise th vac ads(now hanger) is more comfortable than my compression hanger, plus I can feel it grabs on my inner penis also much better. I use a tape over my pee hole which probably helps, but it's not sufficient. Any advice is welcome.

Oh btw yesterday my wife found a thin hose I use to suck out air of my vac ads cylinder. She thought for a sec I was inserting it into my pee hole during PE. I started to assure her it was not the case. She got it but then she said something like "Even if you would be inserting it there, I wouldn't tell you to stop. It is the path you chose to follow."
I was there and let me tell you she actually said it in a very supportive way. Well we didn't have sex lately (mainly due to kids and stuff), but once she is off her period I am positive it will start happening again more often and we will see if she starts to notice any changes and become more positive about this. Still I don't exercise in front of her and we don't talk about PE.

 

[petrpan]

My last 6 workouts took on average 130 minutes. I also trained on my day off on Wednesday. PI's are good. I will still take weekend off, to give all my attention to my family.
Yesterday night I did 4 sets of clamping for about 10 mins each. I saw some temp girth expansion while clamped, but when I checked after my fourth set, the expansion was gone almost right after I unclamped (all based on a toilet roll test). However I got some temporary NBPEL gains there. I did measure to understand what impact clamping could have on my size in longer term. As I have said before I will measure my BPEL to track the "real" progress on 21st (Sunday) this month after a day off on Saturday.

EDIT: After reading through some threads I will give a shot to cool downs. I will try to do them right after my workouts preferably in elongated state. Will report back on this after gaining some experience with it.

 

[petrpan]

Some more notes:
I kind of rediscovered jelq-stretches on Friday and they felt great and intensive. Unfortunately joints on my index fingers hurt a bit from doing this for like 2 hours or so.. I actually am not sure about the name of this exercise. I try to stay about 40% erect and a basically grab my penis near base with an OK overhand very firm grip and start pulling, the trapped blood inside the shaft makes my hand get stuck and I keep on pulling with great force on my inner shaft. The skin is not affected by this pull at all. I then slowly move my hand towards the glans - letting some of the trapped blood slip past ma grip. But I also did some sets of regular stretches (8 o'clock).
I didn't use my vac ads in last three days. Interestingly today my shaft looked very thick when I had sex with my wife and shortly afterwards. I pointed that out to my wife and she agreed and right after she also said without me mentioning anything that my penis felt longer (she knows about my PE). Well it's true about the length, but I am really curious about my next MEG measurements.. If I will be at 5.2" I would very satisfied. But honestly I am a bit skeptical about that.
One last thing. Today since morning I had continuous pains in my underbelly. I think it was from not ejaculating for week while I did edge pretty much daily and was horny from my wife all the time. After we had sex around noon all went to normal. However I don't want to experience this ever again. I am now trying not to ejaculate on my own, but not at this cost. So I will either try for more frequent sex (more times a week) or otherwise I will start to masturbate once a week if this happens ever again.

 

[petrpan]

I have exercised pretty heavily this week, therefore I decided to take weekend off. I managed not to touch my penis however I had sex on both days with my wife. I will switch to 5 on 2 off schedule from now on (weekends off) because I have more time to do PE on week days.

 

[petrpan]

So last week I did for the first time my 5 on 2 off schedule. I took it pretty heavy averaging 2.5h of PE a day + I did some vac ads extending.
Surprisingly joints on my index finger have not fully healed/recovered since Friday.. That's kind of annoying because I can't go at it at full power, but maybe that's a good thing. My penis nowadays looks the longest it has ever looked. I will do next monthly measurement on Sunday to see if it's not just in my mind.
Also the girth increase I saw during weekend seems to be gone (visually). It was probably just temporary expansion from clamping on Friday.
Btw it is Tuesday today - my second day of PE in row and my penis feels quite tired already (yesterday 130 mins manual PE + 210 mins ads, today so far 125 mins manual PE). Not sure if for such intense routine that I have now is good to do 5 days on.. Will see how I will feel tomorrow. I also hope this intense routine will not slow my gains paradoxically.

 

[petrpan]

Sticking to 5on 2of schedule. Penis felt ok in the morning so I decided continue today.

 

[petrpan]

My index fingers are hurting from all those jelqs with tight grip and jelq-stretching. My penis is also sore (I PE'ed on average 130 mins a day this week - mostly manuals). Today I am just hanging 3.5kg (7.7lbs) to give my hands some rest. This is the last day of my second month (I always start a new one on 20th). Two days off will follow where I will do new measurements on the second rest day. I am hoping there will be some progress there because I have really increased intensity of my exercising a lot. If for some reason there won't be any gains. I will take a break for two or three weeks most likely to recover and then will continue. I will put here some stats during weekend and then I will add the results form the measure tape.

 

[petrpan]

Wow, that wtf moment, when you find out that your tailor tape steals 0.5cm away from your EG measurements.
I decided to compare the tailor tape today with my measure tape (that I have compared in the past with other two measure tapes I have at home and I know is correct) and it turned out, that the tailor tape has been somewhat stretched out in years of usage and shows less then the reality is. It seems that my girth has actually gone up since 4 years ago.
Today I did measure my girth because I did this (in this exact order):

• 10mins in pump around 4 inHg
• around 3mins clamped
• then sex
• then 30 mins rest
• EG measurement

and I wanted to see if I was able to achieve any post workout girth expansion or not, as it always seemed that I was not able to do so. But I guess the problem was I didn't do long enough sessions or I did them very occasionally. As it seems now I am able to achieve some temporary expansion of about 0.15" - 0.2" and with longer sessions this could actually increase even further. Today post workout I actually measured 5.5" MEG (correct value), however I think real MEG will be around 5.3".
let's wait for Sunday to come.

 

[closed291]

Hello Lucian. Thanks for stopping by. I guess I just wanted her to find out eventually by noticing my gains. Anyway I am not happy she found out. We had some short discussion on this topic today and she just couldn't understand why I started PE again. Plus she asked questions like "are you planning to leave me?"... I think I explained all well, but I would be more happy if she didn't know. Well for now I will try not to get into any firther PE related discussions with her if not necessary. There are some things most women will not understand.

I would share with her that you are also keeping your penis healthy. Focus on obtaining a healthy penis and the gains will be secondary bonus. You can make the convincing case of the dangers of muscle atrophy and how this can even apply to the penis as well as vagina.

P.S. I'm subscribing to your thread too to help encourage you as a fellow married PE Gymnast.

 

[petrpan]

2 MONTHS UPDATE
Hey guys, little update. It's been 2 month since I restarted my PE.
Some stats for the last month (20.9. - 19.10.):
Training days: 24
Minutes of PE per training day (average): 97
Total PE time last month: 38 hours 41 minutes (2321 minutes) (edging times not included - I don't count edging as proper intense training)
Time spent in vac ads: 40 hours 10 minutes (2410 minutes)
In the first half of the month I did mainly stretching. Second half I did lots of jelqing with high EQ and jelq-stretches. Occasionally I did clamping and pumping and very little hanging.

Current measurements:
I measured today at 10pm this is my first off day, because we are having a visit coming tomorrow monring and staying until Monday. However if I will get time, I will try to measure tomorrow as well to confirm the values.
BPEL: 17.6cm = 6.93"
MEG: 13.9cm = 5.47"

I have just edited my first post and signature as it seems I wasn't (re)starting PE with 5.05" MEG, but around 5.24" MEG. So in two months I have gained so far 0.23 BPEL and 0.23 MEG.
I was hoping for better results in my second month (lengthwise) because I increased the intensity of my workouts but I realize now what I did was more focusing on girth. Which is something I don't pursue at the moment. So in my following month I will again focus more on stretching and hanging and might follow a slightly lighter routine. If the gains will stall, I will take around 6 weeks off and then restart again I guess. In overall I am pleased with my results so far.

EDIT: BPEL confirmed on Sunday evening, MEG I measured 13.9cm, so I am adjusting this in my post and signature (from 14cm/5.5").

 

[petrpan]

Hey guys. I edited my previous post an hour ago. Basically I changed my MEG from 14cm to 13.9cm after measuring on Sunday evening. I actually measured 14cm once on Sunday evening as well, but I will stick with 13.9cm to stay on the "safe side".
So today is my first training day of the my 3rd training month.

Goal for this month:
7" BPEL LENGTH!

Ways to achieve my goal for this month:

• stretching
• vac ads
• hanging
• no high erection level jelqing - only with low erection level
• no jelq-stretching
• NO PUMPING or CLAPMING this month at all

Thoughts:
I am really not sure if I will be able to gain those last 2mm to reach 7" BPEL in my 3rd month, but will give it a try. Actually I am a bit skeptical. I know it's not the best attitude, but anyway I will focus on length with moderate intensity and will stay consistent. I don't care if I lose some girth for now. I believe that whatever you lose (in matter of penis size) can always be obtained back quite easily later on. That's one of the reasons I am not afraid to take longer breaks. And re-reading success forum stories I am convinced I will have many long breaks (up to 2 months) in my PE journey. But all of them will be planned and will have firm final dates after which I will always continue my PE again (no excuses!). This way I think it is possible to break plateaus multiple times before getting really stuck.

Reason for me to focus purely on length now:

• I believe in theory "Length first" (that it's easier to gain length while less girthy) and I have gained girth already (not complaining)
• my erections have been great lately, so I assume it's not the PC muscle that limits me, but tunica

Final thoughts on breaks
By taking a longer break (6-8 weeks) I see at least two benefits there:

1. Your penis heals fully in 1-2 weeks and in the next 5-7 weeks will eventually become less stong/tight and will actually become "weaker" again. Not like it was before PE, but at least closer to that state. That's why you should see some new gains (like newbie gains) once you restart
2. Let's not forget about the mental state. It will give one some time off to think of other stuff in our lives than just our penises. Plus this approach should avoid frustrating periods of months of training with no results..

 

[closed291]

Great insights especially about the thinking about the penis all the time. Harmony is the key.

 

[petrpan]

Thanks Ujjayi. Everybody should remember that we are doing PE to be more happy (in general), not to be frustrated or decrease quality of our lives.

Note for all (and myself):
I added a new section to my first post in this thread called Supplements.
I will copy-paste it here:

Supplements

• Gingko Biloba
• Fish Oil,
• Zinc, Mangesium, Calcium
• Tribulus terrestris
• Green tea (1 cup a day after lunch)
• This is not a supplement, but it's worth mentioning - daily eating fresh vegetables and fruits. This prevents inflammations and helps to speed up recovery.

Since beginning of month 3 I added:

• L-Arginin
• Maca powder
• Collagen type 1 and 2 (started two week in)

At first I was kind of hesitant to invest further money into l-arginin and maca, but then I thought to myself: Is there any price limit to get your penis bigger? Well there certainly is one, but it's definitely way above the costs of these supplements.

 

[petrpan]

So yesterday I took l-arginin and maca for the first time during lunch time (since today I started taking l-arginin in the morning on empty stomach).
The result was that I woke up during night multiple times with erection. That is definitely new to me. I mean I get erections quite often during the day, but this was rather shocking experience to me. I don't think this was a coincidence. Feels like a good supplementation to my routine...
Yesterday managed to do 80 minutes of stretching and 30 mins of hanging at night with 7.7 lbs. It seems I won't be able to do much exercising during weekend so I will again stick to 5 on 2 off routine this week.

 

[petrpan]

So much for hanging plans for tonight. I wore my vac ads for 90 mins and it felt quite itchy since the start, but I didn't pay much attention to that which turned out to be a big mistake. I put it on incorrectly and now I have pretty bad edema on bottom part of my foreskin. Hopefully this heals within two days.. At least I managed to do 75mins of stretching today.

 

[closed291]

So yesterday I took l-arginin and maca for the first time during lunch time (since today I started taking l-arginin in the morning on empty stomach).
The result was that I woke up during night multiple times with erection. That is definitely new to me. I mean I get erections quite often during the day, but this was rather shocking experience to me. I don't think this was a coincidence. Feels like a good supplementation to my routine...
Yesterday managed to do 80 minutes of stretching and 30 mins of hanging at night with 7.7 lbs. It seems I won't be able to do much exercising during weekend so I will again stick to 5 on 2 off routine this week.

Are you going to stagger your supplement intake so your body won't adjust to it?

 

[petrpan]

Are you going to stagger your supplement intake so your body won't adjust to it?

Hey Ujjayi, good to see you around and also good question. Well for now my plan is to take the supplements on daILy basis while training. Once I will go on planned break (6-8 weeks) I will stop taking them.
But in general I don't want my body to get used to them and have bad blood flow without them, so once I will be back from the break I will be using them for about a month or so and then stop for couple of months and then again a month of taking them, etc... But we will see how it goes.

 

[petrpan]

And now an update.
So, yesterday evening/night I tried angion method v1 to lower the edema on my foreskin. I did it for ten minutes and I believe it helped a bit. At least it looked better once I was done. Today it's still there, but really just minor. However I will probably still skip hanging tonight with my vac ads.
Anyway prior the angion method I used a chili heat cream on my penis (which I do from time to time) and massaged it a bit. I also used it as a lube during the angion method. All was fine, then I did some edging and went to sleep around 10pm. Well I woke up at midnight with strong erection and also strong urge to pee. Well, I went to the toilet, but the urge didn't go away after I emptied my bladder. I had this condition like ten to twenty times in my life before. Until today I still don't know what is the cause. I sat there on the toilet for good 10 mins holding a RK (at least some exercise). Then I realized the cream could have made it to my glans during edging and that could have caused this reflex or whatever it is, so I washed the whole area in the shower and went to sleep. It was not very pleasant experience.
Later on during night I had at least two erections that woke me up partially.
Oh and in the morning in the shower I pulled on my penis a bit and felt something like fatigue. I was a bit surprising I felt it after just stretching yesterday and applying vac ads afterwards (even thought the tension was quite high). I usually get this feeling from hanging.
Also yesterday when I was stretching sometimes during the end of the stretch (I hold usually for 40-60s) I pulled very hard before switching hands. This will either promote growth or make my penis tougher. We'll see.

 

[petrpan]

Yesterday evening the edema was gone so I went for hanging (one would expect me being a bit smarter at my age). Anyway I am not complete idiot, so I checked after 20 mins of hanging and so some minor swelling, so I stopped immediately. I switched to massaging and edging with a bit of angion method v1. Today I still can see the swelling. Well at least I know no hanging for me today.. Still will proceed with stretching during the day. Night erections continue.
Please note we have small kids and they tend to wake up and cry a little during night, so I am not sure whether it's them who wake me up or the erections.

EDIT: ugh, forgot to mention that right after i finished edging I went 100% erect into bath and showered my penis with (very) cold water for like 2-3 mins. It was actually good feeling. I will try to do this now more often.