Penis size -- how common are large ones?

[dunamismax]

Yeah.. just joined guys... I started out about 6 years ago at 6" by 5" and even then this girl I was with said I was big... Porn definitely affected my decision to do PE (sigh). Been off and on since then mostly playing by ear and still got good gains. Now with a little more focused and scientific training, I should be able to "sculpt" a handsome cock. That said, porn no longer fools me... its a performance period! And the producers use all sorts of visual tricks to produce illusions to excite the person watching. Also, porn shifts your own sexuality outside you.. not nice at all! Not glad it took porn for me to start PE but the gains have worked wonders for my self-confidence in approaching women ;-)

 

[dculo]

Everyone here is interested in penis size, and a lot of members seem to think they are unusually small when in fact they are simply normal in size. The Relationships Forum is full of threads from guys obsessing about girls who have told them that everyone else is bigger than they are, and it seems clear that porn has skewed our ideas about what is normal and how common really large cocks are.

So.... what are "normal" stats for a guy? How common are really large penises in the general population? Thanks to a post from a long time ago by Iguana, I went back and found a link to a thread on Thunder's that covers this. Here is a great post by Priapologist that covers all this quite nicely, at least for length. To see the original and read that thread, you can go to The (statistical) Truth About Cock Size - Th***er's P**ce Free Penis Enlargement Forums

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Gentlemen,

There seems to be some confusion about the rarity of truly big (and truly small) penises, so I did a statistical analysis for everyone. I submitted some of this information in another thread yesterday, but I felt that it bore repeating and expanding. This summary is based on the LifeStyles condoms Cancun data set:

Mean length (n=300): 5.877 inches (14.928 cm) erect (assuming bone pressed)
Standard deviation: 0.825 inches (2.096 cm)

My analysis:

Lengths at each standard deviation:

5th sd below mean: 1.752 inches
4th sd below mean: 2.577 inches
3rd sd below mean: 3.402 inches
2nd sd below mean: 4.227 inches
1st sd below mean: 5.052 inches
Mean: 5.877 inches
1st sd above mean: 6.702 inches
2nd sd above mean: 7.527 inches
3rd sd above mean: 8.352 inches
4th sd above mean: 9.177 inches
5th sd above mean: 10.00 inches

Frequency in population:

1.752 inches: 1 in 3.5 million
2.577 inches: 1 in 31,574
3.402 inches: 1 in 741
4.227 inches: 1 in 44
5.052 inches: 1 in 6
5.877 inches: 1 in 2
6.702 inches: 1 in 6
7.527 inches: 1 in 44
8.352 inches: 1 in 741
9.177 inches: 1 in 31, 574
10.00 inches: 1 in 3.5 million

Rank in population, by percentile:

1.752 inches: 0.0000003rd percentile
2.577 inches: 0.000032nd percentile
3.402 inches: 0.14th percentile
4.227 inches: 2.3rd percentile
5.052 inches: 15.9th percentile
5.877 inches: 50th percentile
6.702 inches: 84.1st percentile
7.527 inches: 97.7th percentile
8.352 inches: 99.86th percentile
9.177 inches: 99.9968th percentile
10.00 inches: 99.99997th percentile


As you can see, the truly small (less than 2.5 inches) and the truly large (greater than 9 inches) are statistically very rare individuals. Given that the adult male population of the USA is approximately 105 million, there are only about 3250 guys in the entire country who are 9.2 inches long or longer, and only 30 in the entire country who possess 10 inches or more. And they are probably all in porn. See how a few dozen guys are screwing with the heads of ‘average’ length men? Making them feel small when they really, truly are not small.

71.5 million American men fall between 5.1 and 6.7 inches, so you are in good company if you are of average length. Further, only about 17,000 American men fall into the micropenis (2.7 inches or less) category.

Hopefully you guys find this information helpful in dispelling the ‘Monster Cock on Every Block’ myth. They really are pretty damn rare.

Cheers!
Pri

NOTE: I did not do a statistical analysis on the girth data, as they were not normally distributed (they did not have a bell shape). The mean and std dev were 4.972 inches and 0.508 inches, respectively, for what it is worth.

man i wish there was one for girth

 

[Vlad]

So 5.8 inches is supposed to be the average? Bearing in mind, it was measured in a clinical setting, by some stranger, I think the men were not that sexually turned on so might not be 100% erect. The results might have been different if the men were measured in their bedroom by their partner when they were on the verge of orgasm.

So, I'd add maybe 0.5 inch and say that the average is 6.3 inches.

 

[doubledaduse]

Trying to gain 1" in length within the next 3-6 months without gaining girth. Is this realistic? Currently 7.25" x 6.5"

 

[ThirdArm]

So, I'd add maybe 0.5 inch and say that the average is 6.3 inches.

I completely see your point, but where are you getting .5"? Just a good round number?

That's an 8.3% increase if a guy with 6 goes to 6.5.
And a 9.1% increase for a guy starting with 5.5 and going to 6.

I know that a single, strict number makes everything easier, but we're going to have to settle for a narrow range - and call that band of numbers 'approximately average.'

You're right about erection quality being a worthwhile variance to note, very worthwhile, and it just wasn't quantified in the study.

 

[Vlad]

I completely see your point, but where are you getting .5"? Just a good round number?

That's an 8.3% increase if a guy with 6 goes to 6.5.
And a 9.1% increase for a guy starting with 5.5 and going to 6.

I know that a single, strict number makes everything easier, but we're going to have to settle for a narrow range - and call that band of numbers 'approximately average.'

You're right about erection quality being a worthwhile variance to note, very worthwhile, and it just wasn't quantified in the study.

Yes, it's just some random figure. Probably 0.1 to 0.2 inch is more accurate.

 

[Pegasus]

Some men were excluded from the cancun study due to poor eq . The point stands though this might not be the best erection they ever had and another eighth or perhaps quarter is possible. In any case if we say around 6" and probably smaller rather than larger we have it right.

 

[JonnyCan]

Holmes perhaps was the exception that proves the rule.Anyway he was nowhere as big as e.g. Napier, mandingo etc.Maybe he was around 9 " and he could hardly get it up most of the time. I don't want to disrespect any claims here but really if white guys had the same size you would surely see it in porn.For every John Holmes you have like ten black guys that are bigger.I know it is not scientifically conclusive but big business and the long green of the porn industry proves the point .

What an idiot.
Holmes was around 8" which is where I'm at but thicker.
Every black guy in porn that is huge is the same dozen guys.
Most of them have phaloplasty and it's obvious. Diesel, Mandingo, Napier, Depth and a couple others all have the bendy, floppy, sponge dicks at full erection that point at their feet while maintaining a small strip of pubic hair to hide their surgery scars.
View amateur porn with black men. They're all just as small as you the average guy.
About 5 maybe 6 if you're lucky.

I've only had one friend who was larger and at 15 still being 5'6 or 5'7 he looked 11" long but wasn't.
He was according to him, 8.5 inches which I will assume was measured from the top.
This is much like Ramon who is only 5'7 with a paperclip physic and tiny hands. He's 8 maybe 8.5 with tremendous girth. Nowhere near the 10 or 11 inches claimed.
Years later I caught up and since, have never had a guy friend that was truthfully larger and yes, I am totally straight.
I had a friend 6'9 that was still only 7" and in the social circle of about 50 or 60 people the most well endowed.
That wasn't actually true because I am substantially larger but, I didn't participate in the social group as a dating pool so there were no girls to bring up my exceptional attributes.

Porn is fantasy.
it's not real.
Ron Jeremy is not even close to 9.75 inches which he claims in his own words.
He's around the same size as I am only my dick doesn't look like a blown out inner tube.
Lastly, the women in porn were and always have been very petite even when tall. On occasion I see a woman with medium sized hands and the guys dick goes from 10 inches with other women down to the reality of 7 or 8.
The same is true when the actor grabs his penis unless he has unusually small hands which some of them do.

You can lie to yourself but for those of us that are exceptionally larger, you just sound like an idiot making fantastical claims.

 

[JonnyCan]

BTW that table on frequency is way off.
I've seen the studies for years and the few that actually required the doctors perform the measurements showed that men 7.5 to 8 inches are about 1 in 70 THOUSAND.
Not 1 in 44.

Every guy claims to have 7 inches which immediately tells you the guy is 5.5 maybe 6 from his profile view. They will then see a man 7.5 to 8 in porno and demand the world believe it's 10 inches.
People can't even admit their true heights they always add 2 inches both men and women.
It's no wonder penis and breast size is even more common to exaggerate or if you're honest like myself, you refer to it as LYING.

Expecting to gain 2.0 inches from PE isn't realistic.
Maybe over 3 or 4 years of using a traction device but jelqing and stretches do not believe a single word you hear.
Buy the traction device and some vitamin A oil like Rose Hip oil which promotes cell division and cell production.
3 to 4 years of traction and jelqing for girth may indeed gain you 1.5 to 2.5 inches but it won't be easy.
I have VERY elastic tissue and the gains I saw were very difficult outside of a traction device which I've yet to use.

I'm at an extremely thick 8 inches with 6 to 7 inches of girth depending and for 75% of women that's looks like what 10 inches on a ruler looks like to a 6 foot tall man.
It's bordering on freakishly huge to being freakishly huge depending on the girl.
I've had tall girls tell me I'm morbidly large. Had mouths get stuck 1/3 of the way down it due to girth.
Having a tremendously huge penis is not like living in a porno.
It's a challenge for many women no matter how turned on it routinely gets them.

Most actually get embarrassed and all have this same overwhelmed laugh of OMG, holy sh*t et cetera

 

[Ivor]

BTW that table on frequency is way off.
I've seen the studies for years and the few that actually required the doctors perform the measurements showed that men 7.5 to 8 inches are about 1 in 70 THOUSAND.
Not 1 in 44.

I think that's a massive underestimate of how common penises in that range are. Do you have a link to back you up? According to the Lifestyles condom survey, just under 2% of men fall into the 7.5-8" category (source: Mr. Average - The true story about penis size, from a site that isn't trying to sell you anything.). And really, just using common sense, plenty of guys on this site started out at this sort of size. The idea that just a couple of thousand men in the entire USA naturally start out at this sort of size is preposterous.

Also, have you considered the various reasons *why* a doctor or surgeon might measure a patient's penis? Chances are, there's something wrong with it (on the basis that doctors don't routinely ask to measure perfectly healthy penises, excluding hot lady doctors in cheesy pornos) - perhaps ED, Peyronie's or maybe just a very small one whose owner is considering having it enlarged surgically. All these things would give the sample of penises measured by doctors a much smaller average size than penises in general.

Every guy claims to have 7 inches which immediately tells you the guy is 5.5 maybe 6 from his profile view. They will then see a man 7.5 to 8 in porno and demand the world believe it's 10 inches.
People can't even admit their true heights they always add 2 inches both men and women.
It's no wonder penis and breast size is even more common to exaggerate or if you're honest like myself, you refer to it as LYING.

Expecting to gain 2.0 inches from PE isn't realistic.
Maybe over 3 or 4 years of using a traction device but jelqing and stretches do not believe a single word you hear.
Buy the traction device and some vitamin A oil like Rose Hip oil which promotes cell division and cell production.
3 to 4 years of traction and jelqing for girth may indeed gain you 1.5 to 2.5 inches but it won't be easy.
I have VERY elastic tissue and the gains I saw were very difficult outside of a traction device which I've yet to use.

I'm at an extremely thick 8 inches with 6 to 7 inches of girth depending and for 75% of women that's looks like what 10 inches on a ruler looks like to a 6 foot tall man.
It's bordering on freakishly huge to being freakishly huge depending on the girl.
I've had tall girls tell me I'm morbidly large. Had mouths get stuck 1/3 of the way down it due to girth.
Having a tremendously huge penis is not like living in a porno.
It's a challenge for many women no matter how turned on it routinely gets them.

Most actually get embarrassed and all have this same overwhelmed laugh of OMG, holy sh*t et cetera

Now I love this bit: every guy who claims 7" is actually 5.5", but you're being completely honest when you tell us you're 8" long and 7" thick? By your own argument that all guys always lie, you must be about 6" and maybe just over average girth.

 

[longmonster]

I had sex with a hot american blonde nurse that was 44 last year and she told me I was the longest she've EVER had. She couldn't even ride it. No jokes. I was shocked because I thought by 44 yrs old she should've had bigger or my size at least. I'm 27.

 

[billybrown]

"Every guy claims to have 7 inches which immediately tells you the guy is 5.5 maybe 6 from his profile view" JonnyCan
That's BS. I claim to have 7 inches and I do ( a bit more in fact) & you CAN check my pictures to prove it.... then you claim
"I'm at an extremely thick 8 inches with 6 to 7 inches of girth" "It's bordering on freakishly huge"
Sure my friend, sure, sure

 

[Booble]

The statistic table is so hard to follow, typical scientific stuff.

I am still trying to work out where my 8" x 6" is in the rankings?.

 

[Pucko]

Saw this thing on tv about a groupie who used to make penis molds of rock stars. Apparently you can now buy recasts of these molds. So I took a look at the website to see the sizes. On tv Jimi Hendrix's seemed the biggest, a few longer but not by much. Anyway his dick looked monster compared to most of the guys. However it was only about 6 by 6! My point being most of these dudes hovered around five inches in length.

Here is the link, where you can see a few of the casts.

http://www.cynthiapcaster.org/casts/_dicks/casts_hendrix_page/hendrix_page.htm


Oh yea, there are boob molds too.

I would really like to see this video.

 

[Dear Ambellina]

I can't help but notice the amount of stealthbragging.

"Guys lie about their dicks all the time, when a guy says x it's really x-2, etc etc"

Then

"Me on the other hand, I'm freakishly large and women gasp for oxygen when they see it"

Or

"The average penis is definitely larger than stated for x unscientific reason or y personal hunch or z (my personal favorite) based on what some chick told me"

Then

"But it doesn't matter to me because I'm already 8x6"




:fuck:

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.impride8lr:

 

[Hittdogg17]

i can't help but notice the amount of stealthbragging.


"guys lie about their dicks all the time, when a guy says x it'lly x-2, etc etc"

then

"me on the other hand, i'm freakishly large and women gasp for oxygen when they see it"

or

"the average penis is definitely larger than stated for x unscientific reason or y personal hunch or z (my personal favorite) based on what some chick told me"

then

"but it doesn't matter to me because i'm already 8x6"




:fuck:

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.impride8lr:

lmfao!!

 

[Hittdogg17]

I want to get back to questions raised a few pages back on this thread (when I was on vacation) -- what women mean when they say that " how you use it is more important than how big it is."

I cannot answer for all women of course, but in my experience the physical pleasures of sex have much more to do with foreplay, position, and thrusting (force, variation, rhythm) than penis size. MUCH MUCH more. It is the friction -- between his body and mine, his pubis (or fingers) and my clit, his cock and the skin around the opening of my vagina, his glans and my G-spot -- that stimulates me. The sensations come from the motion, first and foremost. Size of his cock is truly secondary.

Just something to think about.

G-$pot is only 2 inches deep. You are right on woman. That's good to get it from the horses mouth. I found most women like to be on top and get better control of stimulus of the clit and G-spot. Grab her hips and help her... hehehe... One of my secrets out of bag.

 

[LetsGetBigGODDAMMIT]

I think we can take it these stats are based on a none pe population.
As pe becomes more popular it will disrupt these stats, in fact it already has.
There are a number of guys who have built large peni from average ones. So take me ,started at 6.75" by 4.75" fairly average, currently over the famous 8" by 6" which is top 1%. There would be a large number of guys that have done this in the western world,possibly enough to disrupt the stats already. More to the point, someone like G4 didn't start over 10" ,he developed it through pe, as have probably a number of other guys in america. At this rareified leve,l a small additional number makes a difference.
There was a guy on here a while back, who gave so much evidence, that porn stars that claimed 12" etc, were really "only" 9" or less and carried on so much that JP baned him as a troll. Well he was a weirdo, but no one could break down his argument.

Fluxo your girth is fine, perhaps a little evening out.

was this guy rfj by any chance. Man I really miss reading that guys posts

 

[Pegasus]

I can't help but notice the amount of stealthbragging.

"Guys lie about their dicks all the time, when a guy says x it's really x-2, etc etc"

Then

"Me on the other hand, I'm freakishly large and women gasp for oxygen when they see it"

Or

"The average penis is definitely larger than stated for x unscientific reason or y personal hunch or z (my personal favorite) based on what some chick told me"

Then

"But it doesn't matter to me because I'm already 8x6"




:fuck:

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.impride8lr:

I like this post i just came across and thought it is still relevant.

 

[Pirate]

Thanks for resurrecting this thread, Peg.
I do miss BatWoman!