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Hi guys,

although there are probably countless similar cases to mine, i'm going to throw up a quick summary of the current state of things and how it happened in the hope someone can share some knowledge with me so I can hopefully improve this situation.

2002 (I was 23) I started doing some PE, jelqs and stretches... this lasted about 3 months before I thrombosed a vein on the top of my dick. Around this time I realised I couldn't acheive a decent erection. My stretches were being performed from the BASE of my dick, because I could get a firmer stretch, and I was probably jelquing at TOO HARD an erection level, like 75% or something. But I always warmed up and down properly.

During this period of time I was going through a low point in my life, I became kind of reclusive and depressed, which would point towards psychological causes. However, at the start I was PE'ing in the shower, and I specifically remember having to wait until my dick went DOWN enough so that I could continue.

At some point soon after I stopped, my dick didn't work properly anymore, i'm not sure of the exact moment.

Now at age 31 my dick still doesn't work properly. My problem is that although I can get my dick hard, I can't KEEP it hard. It's constantly going down like a deflating balloon (my glans fill up fine though). I suppose if I constantly stimulate my cock, if im horny and in the right frame of mind I can keep it relatively hard, like 80% for a while. But once my hand comes off, its down to 50% in 10 seconds and it's a mammoth effort to get it back hard again, all for it to flop down again as soon as one small condition isn't met, like my attention wanes for a second, or the stimulation stops for a brief time.

This problem has been present with every sexual encounter i've had in the last 8 years, save for 2 occasions. Once as soon as I got horny I basically got on top of her sans condom and banged away untill I came, although no ejaculate ("where did it go?" as shes checking her hair). Second time was with a condom in missionary position, I put it into her semi-hard and then just kept going at it, and slowly, slowly it got hard, then I dardn't change position for fear of losing it so just kept at it for like an hour until she told me to stop because she was sore!

Over the last few years I have discovered viagra and when I meet a new girl I use it, because it works so amazingly well! Thing is I have not been interested in anything long term with a girl for a long time, the most is a few months and dick problems were at the forefront.

But I have recently met a girl who I really want to make a go of things with and she doensn't know about my dick yet... i've used Viagra both times and been like a steel rod. She's only 20 and randy as hell and i'm worried this could be a deal breaker.

Anyway, in the past i've seen a sex therapist, which helped slightly, but he thought it was in my head. Because of the old official line of 'if you can get it hard enough for penetration then your dick is fine'... I could penetrate a girl with my floppy dick if I really had the inclination, but it doensn't mean I don't have a problem to resolve! The end came when after about 6 sessions he was like 'ok, I think its time you tried sex without viagra'... yeah, like its magically going to work after years of consecutive failiures. He was frustrated when I said I wasn't ready and then I phoned up cancelling a session so he discharged me.

The Urologist told me its in my head and my dick's fine... after a literal 10 second examination he told me I could not injure my dick by forcing blood into it (jelqs). He also said tests were pointless because I was fucked with or without test results and my options would be the same, viagra etc.

Just the other day I got an appointment with another urologist where I will push for tests for bloodflow and leaks.

Anyone got any advice for me on this matter? Cheers!

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I beleive I have scar tissue collagen build up in my dick (if I leave my cock alone for a while, then feel along the shaft, it's soft and squishy near the base, then as I move up under the glans, in an area about an inch squared, the whole inside feels slightly firm and bulbous. I think this is the area that grew during PE, but also the area I damaged. If i squeeze it and warm it up for a while, the whole thing feels soft, as if i've loosened the tissue up, although I can still feel a slight firmness in that area). I think that's why it's so hard to get hard and stay hard.

I wake up with morning semi's at best, never wood, except once in the night i awoke to one.. once in 8 years though.

My diet is ok, although I dont eat massive amounts of vegatables.

I'm quite fit, I play football twice a week.

My sleep pattern isn't the best, i have slept a lot in my life, I generally sleep in late.

I have had depression and anxiety over the years.

I think I have Physical ED (more of an impaired dick than complete ED) with a psychological component.

I just want to get to the root of the problem, if it's psychological I want to come to that conclusion by ruling out physical causes via tests. If it's physical I want to know the actual problem so I can make moves to improve it, like a cock ring or blood flow supplements.

Any form of advice or help muchos appreciated.

Cheers!
 

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Hello Robzor.
I don't really know what to recommend to you. I think that this problem is in your head, because I have similar story you mentioned. I remember when I was 16, when I had my first sexual intercourse. I wanted to have sex so much, that this became a problem to me. All the time I was horny as hell, but when the night came, I couldn't get even 50% erection. This night was so embarrassing. Lucky that girl was really understanding.
I think that here is many guys who can share their knowledge with you. Keep asking and look for answers. I'm sure that everything will be fine.
Good luck.
 

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Cheers for the comment mate. Yeah I know what you'r saying, I think a lot of it is in my head but i have this real gut feeling i have done some physical damage and i can't seem to get past it.

i just dont want to mess it up with this girl because ED problems bring in a lot of bad emotions from me into the relationship and i want things to be fun between us. but like, ive got 1 viagra left and im starting to worry, thats how dependant ive become on it, and how much my confidence is derived from a pill. failiures are way painful so i try to avoid them at all costs... ive turned down blow jobs over the worry i wont get it up, really sucks.
 

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Hi guys,

although there are probably countless similar cases to mine, i'm going to throw up a quick summary of the current state of things and how it happened in the hope someone can share some knowledge with me so I can hopefully improve this situation.

2002 (I was 23) I started doing some PE, jelqs and stretches... this lasted about 3 months before I thrombosed a vein on the top of my dick. Around this time I realised I couldn't acheive a decent erection. My stretches were being performed from the BASE of my dick, because I could get a firmer stretch, and I was probably jelquing at TOO HARD an erection level, like 75% or something. But I always warmed up and down properly.

During this period of time I was going through a low point in my life, I became kind of reclusive and depressed, which would point towards psychological causes. However, at the start I was PE'ing in the shower, and I specifically remember having to wait until my dick went DOWN enough so that I could continue.

At some point soon after I stopped, my dick didn't work properly anymore, i'm not sure of the exact moment.

Now at age 31 my dick still doesn't work properly. My problem is that although I can get my dick hard, I can't KEEP it hard. It's constantly going down like a deflating balloon (my glans fill up fine though). I suppose if I constantly stimulate my cock, if im horny and in the right frame of mind I can keep it relatively hard, like 80% for a while. But once my hand comes off, its down to 50% in 10 seconds and it's a mammoth effort to get it back hard again, all for it to flop down again as soon as one small condition isn't met, like my attention wanes for a second, or the stimulation stops for a brief time.

This problem has been present with every sexual encounter i've had in the last 8 years, save for 2 occasions. Once as soon as I got horny I basically got on top of her sans condom and banged away untill I came, although no ejaculate ("where did it go?" as shes checking her hair). Second time was with a condom in missionary position, I put it into her semi-hard and then just kept going at it, and slowly, slowly it got hard, then I dardn't change position for fear of losing it so just kept at it for like an hour until she told me to stop because she was sore!

Over the last few years I have discovered viagra and when I meet a new girl I use it, because it works so amazingly well! Thing is I have not been interested in anything long term with a girl for a long time, the most is a few months and dick problems were at the forefront.

But I have recently met a girl who I really want to make a go of things with and she doensn't know about my dick yet... i've used Viagra both times and been like a steel rod. She's only 20 and randy as hell and i'm worried this could be a deal breaker.

Anyway, in the past i've seen a sex therapist, which helped slightly, but he thought it was in my head. Because of the old official line of 'if you can get it hard enough for penetration then your dick is fine'... I could penetrate a girl with my floppy dick if I really had the inclination, but it doensn't mean I don't have a problem to resolve! The end came when after about 6 sessions he was like 'ok, I think its time you tried sex without viagra'... yeah, like its magically going to work after years of consecutive failiures. He was frustrated when I said I wasn't ready and then I phoned up cancelling a session so he discharged me.

The Urologist told me its in my head and my dick's fine... after a literal 10 second examination he told me I could not injure my dick by forcing blood into it (jelqs). He also said tests were pointless because I was fucked with or without test results and my options would be the same, viagra etc.

Just the other day I got an appointment with another urologist where I will push for tests for bloodflow and leaks.

Anyone got any advice for me on this matter? Cheers!

Other points.

I beleive I have scar tissue collagen build up in my dick (if I leave my cock alone for a while, then feel along the shaft, it's soft and squishy near the base, then as I move up under the glans, in an area about an inch squared, the whole inside feels slightly firm and bulbous. I think this is the area that grew during PE, but also the area I damaged. If i squeeze it and warm it up for a while, the whole thing feels soft, as if i've loosened the tissue up, although I can still feel a slight firmness in that area). I think that's why it's so hard to get hard and stay hard.

I wake up with morning semi's at best, never wood, except once in the night i awoke to one.. once in 8 years though.

My diet is ok, although I dont eat massive amounts of vegatables.

I'm quite fit, I play football twice a week.

My sleep pattern isn't the best, i have slept a lot in my life, I generally sleep in late.

I have had depression and anxiety over the years.

I think I have Physical ED (more of an impaired dick than complete ED) with a psychological component.

I just want to get to the root of the problem, if it's psychological I want to come to that conclusion by ruling out physical causes via tests. If it's physical I want to know the actual problem so I can make moves to improve it, like a cock ring or blood flow supplements.

Any form of advice or help muchos appreciated.

Cheers!

OK, you have ED which is treatable with Viagra. If you are worried about popping a pill right before activity, try Cialis or Levitra which are longer acting. The other obvious measures are a complete physical and bloodwork to see whether you have any medical or hormonal problems. If you are taking anti-depressants, they are likely the culprit. talk to your doctors about other possible medications without the same side effects, although all of them can cause ED.

Like your urologist feels, it seems unlikely that you would experience long term injury from 3 months of jelquing 8 years ago. Seems like you are using this incident to kind of beat yourself up or blame yourself for your ED. ED is unbelievably common for many reasons.

As far as your relationship, at the right time, share with her that you have some medical related issues that affect erection quality and that it has nothing to do with her. You might want to say that Viagra alleviates the problem. Again, its not uncommon. Talk to any girl over 25 and at some point, she has dealt with a boyfriend/partner with ED.
 

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I agree with telling her. If she is a great girl and worthy of you she will understand. This may lead to you to stop concentrating on getting it up and begin concentrating on what turns you on. Sounds like an anxiety of what girls will think if you canbt get it up. Overcome that anxeity with her. You never know what might happen. I'm no professional though. Just my 2 cents.
 

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I agree with telling her. If she is a great girl and worthy of you she will understand. This may lead to you to stop concentrating on getting it up and begin concentrating on what turns you on. Sounds like an anxiety of what girls will think if you canbt get it up. Overcome that anxeity with her. You never know what might happen. I'm no professional though. Just my 2 cents.

ED is ubiquitous. There is a huge percentage of the population taking anti-depressants, and ED is a significant side effect. And the guys that don't have ED, suffer from premature ejaculation, which is another huge problem. And then there is the effect of alcohol and other substances on erection quality, and sex often occurs after a night in the bar. And then you have guys who have literally desensitized themselves with porn addiction and OCD masturbation. With all of these problems, its a miracle any girl is getting laid.

I'm not saying sharing the fact that you have ED is a great pick up line, or that you should lead with it right when the romance starts, but in this day and age, I can't see it being remotely a deal breaker. And even though science hasn't cured cancer or AIDs, the one thing they have pumped lots of money and research in, is improving pharma treatment of ED.
 

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I learned this from Dr. Oz oddly enough. Take a roll of stamps and wrap them tightly around your dick before you go to bed at night. In the morning you can tell by the stamps if you had a night erection. If you are in fact having night erections then your ED is not physical which is a great thing. Make sure you don't take viagra that day so as not to muddy the results. According to Dr. Oz every male has night erections, may not have morning wood but we all get chubbies when we're asleep.
 

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Cheers for the replys guys,

Met her last night and popped a viagra, no sex because she wont let us yet! but got an amazin bj... i now have half a viagra left, tick tock tick tock, im running out of time help me! (i'm being dramatic).

I never got diagnosed with depression or anxiety but have spoken to a councellor about social anxiety, i had low self esteem and i basicly became a recluse for 3 years and cut everyone out of my life so i think that could class as some form of depression. Either way i have never taken any prescription anti-depressant that could account for my ED.

If my ED is from some kind of anxiety, then i not only have it with girls but when masturbating on my own, i struggle to keep it up just the same really, apart from when it fails my mood doesnt plummet so dramatically so i can keep it at a half decent EQ.

the stamp test sounds good i will give it a try and see what happens.

i think if it is in my head then its a strange kind of automatic stress response that occurs when i get an erection. so i begin getting hard, become aware of it and then my brain automatically sends stress hormones throughout my body, on however a subtle level, enough to harm my EQ. so the fear of possible failiure is causing my erections to fail, like a self fulfilling prophecy maybe.

even if this is the case, afer 8 years of it, what can i do about it now, it must be really engrained into my psyche to have persisted for so long.

the viagra i had last night felt like how my dick should work, like i get aroused and i get an erection, simples. it just doesnt work like that without it though, either with or without a girl present.
 

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Cheers for the replys guys,

Met her last night and popped a viagra, no sex because she wont let us yet! but got an amazin bj... i now have half a viagra left, tick tock tick tock, im running out of time help me! (i'm being dramatic).

I never got diagnosed with depression or anxiety but have spoken to a councellor about social anxiety, i had low self esteem and i basicly became a recluse for 3 years and cut everyone out of my life so i think that could class as some form of depression. Either way i have never taken any prescription anti-depressant that could account for my ED.

If my ED is from some kind of anxiety, then i not only have it with girls but when masturbating on my own, i struggle to keep it up just the same really, apart from when it fails my mood doesnt plummet so dramatically so i can keep it at a half decent EQ.

the stamp test sounds good i will give it a try and see what happens.

i think if it is in my head then its a strange kind of automatic stress response that occurs when i get an erection. so i begin getting hard, become aware of it and then my brain automatically sends stress hormones throughout my body, on however a subtle level, enough to harm my EQ. so the fear of possible failiure is causing my erections to fail, like a self fulfilling prophecy maybe.

even if this is the case, afer 8 years of it, what can i do about it now, it must be really engrained into my psyche to have persisted for so long.

the viagra i had last night felt like how my dick should work, like i get aroused and i get an erection, simples. it just doesnt work like that without it though, either with or without a girl present.

Thats good that the viagra's working. It means its most likely psychologically which also means that its easily curable (essentially). Try taking vitamins that will improve your blood flow: L-Arginine and Gingko Bilboa are what I use. L-Arginine in particular is very effective.
 

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if it is some scar tissue then maybe massaging it in the area might help. when i broke my arm/wrist i had to work and brake the scar tissue up so i could actually move my wrist. so same basic principle id think.
 

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if it is some scar tissue then maybe massaging it in the area might help. when i broke my arm/wrist i had to work and brake the scar tissue up so i could actually move my wrist. so same basic principle id think.

Thats a great idea actually. I tend to turtle a lot so whenever I'm alone I rub the top of my shaft gently to promote more blood flow and get it nice and loosened up.
 

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yeah i do that to help my warm up and warm down leaves it nice and flowing. plus i do that on the in between and it seems to leave me hanging longer. i think it also helps prevent damage from the exercises
 

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Yeah I started squeezing the hard bit, appplying enough pressure so its just about to hurt and then changing grip. seems to be softer on the whole now so i'm gonna keep doing it.

ive been kegeling a week doing 50 a day and i'm not really seeing any difference right now but am going to keep on regardless.

i take l-arganine but again only been taking it a week so haven't noticed anything.

really thinking about it i think my problem is just sh*t erection quality, my body doesnt seem to go the extra 9 yards and make it a boner, its just happy with a decent semi. but then i think once my mind gets involved it really fucks it up and kills it.

still, i've got a urologist appt. so im going to take advantage and try to get physical tests done, and also do the stamp test.

anyone got opinions on cock rings? any good, feel weird, do they improve EQ at all over time?

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Hi. I am a female and my boyfriend has ED. We are in our early 40's. My boyfriend will not talk about his ED. Although it is totally obvious what is going on, he will just say nothing when I tip toe around the subject. I came to this board trying to learn about ED. The first few times we had sex I took it very personally. I felt awful. I felt guilty. I believed it was me. He never said anything to let me know what was going on. Eventually I realized I had no control over it and he didn't either. So, if you like this girl and want to make a go of it, tell her. You cannot hide it forever. If she is smart she will figure out what is going on anyway. It is easy to say if she is a reasonable woman who is worth keeping, she will understand, if not to hell with her. It is true however. I do not want to bore the readers that already know my situation so I won't tell you the whole thing. I will repeat this: sex is more than intercourse. This guy I am with now, who had ED, is the best I have ever been with. Read my other posts if you like where I go into detail. Good luck.
 
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also don't just squeeze the hard area. use your fingers and massage it in small circular motions. probably throughout your penis so you can increase blood flow through the whole area. just focus on the hard part more. don't try to squeeze it till it almost hurts be gentle with it. it may take some time to get the scar tissue brokendown safely. think of it as physical therapy.
 

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Cool i'll try massaging it gently then and not going so hard on the poor little bugger.

I fully intend on telling her once my viagra runs out.. i just want our first shag to be mindblowingly good so im going to save the final pill for that and then next time it comes around i'ma tell her my dick doesnt do as its told and i could do with getting comfy with someone first and id like her to be the one i sort it out with.

she said the best pleasure a man can give her is by going down on her, but when i said if she had to sacrifice either oral or penetration, which would she choose, she said she'd sack off oral and keep penetration because she prefers it. not what i wanted to hear really.

anyway, shes only 20 so if she moves on then she moves on, it might be too much for her ego to handle with me losing it all the time. would really sting if it happened though but ive got to tell her, its going to be a lot less hard on her (excuse the pun), if she understands from the start its a problem ive suffered with long before she came along.
 

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yeah i mean all you cn really do is tell her anxious hopes she understands. i almost forgot that when i did personal physical therapy on my wrist i had to bend it back and forth also so try a bending method with the massaging. id recommend doing a gentle massage then isolate the area and start slight bends in the area don't over do it. then finish it off doing a slightly more intense massage.hopefully it will work out for ya. I'm not a doctor but it should be the same principle.
 

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Do you masturbate? Do you view pornography? If you do, then stop for 10 days and see what happens.
 

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I have the same problem as Robzor... I didn't think psychological ED could affect us when we masturbate alone but I found out it does. I can get erections, just can't keep them, so it's definitely psychological.

I don't masturbate very often (3-4 times a week) and I've stopped watching porn (but kept on reading sex stories) almost 2 months ago, and I don't see much difference. Hang on in there man, we'll figure this out.
 

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I don't masturbate very often (3-4 times a week) and I've stopped watching porn (but kept on reading sex stories) almost 2 months ago, and I don't see much difference. Hang on in there man, we'll figure this out.

Try to cut down to at the most once every five days and take it from there.