More girth, less length

[coolmate0]

Hi guys and thanks for reading.

I'm new to this forum. I've just started jelqing, it's my first week. For now, I have one single (very big) question: Is it possible to improve my girth without really affecting the length? My current BPEL is 7.3 and EG - 4.7. I'm quite content with the former, but the latter... well, I think it's not enough. So I've started jelqing hoping to increase girth especially. I've set up a goal of 0.2 increase in length, but I would like to gain 0.5-0.6 in girth.
Any suggestions? Also, do you think my goal is realistic? And can you estimate how long would this take? Thanks in advance!

 

[aidan784]

I think it's good that you recognise you have a large length, good for you.

I would say yes just jelq, don't stretch, after 3 months or more of a newbie routine of jelqing you will be conditioned for more advanced girth-specific exercises at which point you can devise a routine. Chances are you may gain some length from jelqing but it's unlikely to be too much, but gains are really hard to predict, and so nobody can predict how long things will take or how you will gain.

Welcome to the gym!

 

[redbear52]

Some guys claim to have gained girth from edging.

 

[Pegasus]

The problem in this case red, is that edging can also cause length gain and it is hard to estimate what proportion will be between length/girth.

 

[redbear52]

You are right, but I think virtually everything in PE can also cause length gains even if they are "directed" toward girth. There are guys who say they have gained length with clamping. I certainly gained length through jelqing. Conversely, there are individuals who say they have gained girth with hanging and extender use.

I feel it is impossible to predict exactly what the result of any technique will be in any given individual. I doubt that it is possible for many guys to selectively gain girth without length, or length without girth.

 

[Pegasus]

You are right, but I think virtually everything in PE can also cause length gains even if they are "directed" toward girth. There are guys who say they have gained length with clamping. I certainly gained length through jelqing. Conversely, there are individuals who say they have gained girth with hanging and extender use.

I feel it is impossible to predict exactly what the result of any technique will be in any given individual. I doubt that it is possible for many guys to selectively gain girth without length, or length without girth.

Yes there is a lot of truth to what you say. On the other hand ,exercises like stretching, usually result in mainly length gains and clamp type exercises in mainly girth gains. Sometimes the penis has a mind of it's own though as we have all discovered.

 

[pe4life2]

Make sure when you jelq, that you jelq at around ~70% erection.

 

[rbi99]

I think the odds are much greater that by only jelqing (or perhaps leaning heavily toward jelqing with some stretching), length gains will be minimized. You are too new at this to try anything advanced at all, but later on squeezes and compressions will help. I have been doing girth work exclusively for nearly a year and my length gains have been minimal to say the lease.

 

[Closed039]

I would also like to note that perhaps you like the length of your penis due in part to its appearence. If you add on girth, say up to 5.25, your penis may (will) appear shorter to you because of it's new proportions.

Maybe a small length gain wouldn't be the worst thing?

 

[coolmate0]

Thanks for all your replies!

@ aidan784 - stretching is definitely not part of my plan!
@ redbear52, Pegasus, rbi99 - truth is I've done that from time to time, but just for pleasure, it didn't imply any pe awareness. This may have affected length over time? I wonder.
@ pe4life2 - This is interesting. Why do you say this? The fact is I can't jelq at anything less than 50% (and 70% is probably more accurate,yet not completely hard). But why assuming the level of erection influences girth especially? This raises another topic I'm currently researching (how does the soft tissue react to different techniques - to the same end: girth, not length). I'll post a new thread with ideas and questions once I finish reading.
@ PEskeptic - I thought of that too. Of course a small length gain would be acceptable, but I had partners with whom length seemed to be an issue (irrespective of how hard I tried to make her completely ready, she would still be too small). This is my only problem. Also, I'm interested in the aesthetics of my penis: I simply don't want anything extremely different from what I have now.

 

[Closed039]

As aidan says, its good that you are aware that your length is quite above average. But all I'm saying is you shouldn't shy away from girth exercises for fear of gaining just a bit of length.

 

[redbear52]

Thanks for all your replies!

@ aidan784 - stretching is definitely not part of my plan!
@ redbear52, Pegasus, rbi99 - truth is I've done that from time to time, but just for pleasure, it didn't imply any pe awareness. This may have affected length over time? I wonder.
@ pe4life2 - This is interesting. Why do you say this? The fact is I can't jelq at anything less than 50% (and 70% is probably more accurate,yet not completely hard). But why assuming the level of erection influences girth especially? This raises another topic I'm currently researching (how does the soft tissue react to different techniques - to the same end: girth, not length). I'll post a new thread with ideas and questions once I finish reading.
@ PEskeptic - I thought of that too. Of course a small length gain would be acceptable, but I had partners with whom length seemed to be an issue (irrespective of how hard I tried to make her completely ready, she would still be too small). This is my only problem. Also, I'm interested in the aesthetics of my penis: I simply don't want anything extremely different from what I have now.

My experience has been similar. Before marriage I was near the same length you are now, perhaps just a trifle shorter. I did have partners for whom I was a bit too long to allow full insertion in some positions. There were several others with whom I occasionally accidentally boxed their cervix, but that could usually be solved by a change in position or angle. But with these two, no amount of foreplay or number of preliminary orgasms would prevent me from bottoming out, and contrary to what some guys tell you, not all women like that. But they were a distinct minority (around 12%), so if you gain a little more length, you are not likely to have trouble with the majority of women IMO.

I understand what you are saying about the esthetics of the length:girth ratio. It is probably the main reason I am trying to gain a bit more length now (that and the fact that I happen to be married to a woman of considerable "depth"). But as was said, if you do achieve your girth goal without gaining some length, your penis will look shorter to you. It seems odd that our eyes always seem to focus on what we seem to be lacking.

I have gained around 1.5" in length and around .5" of girth since starting PE. I look significantly thicker now, but truthfully to my eye I don't really look any longer most of the time.

 

[coolmate0]

I have gained around 1.5" in length and around .5" of girth since starting PE. I look significantly thicker now, but truthfully to my eye I don't really look any longer most of the time.

You have gained a lot in length, but you seem to have increased girth considerably. How long did it take you to accomplish this? And how intensely did you exercise? Thanks

 

[redbear52]

I have been doing PE for just about 3 years now. I have invested up to several hours a day, but have to take breaks for travel, etc. Earlier in life, I would not have had the time to do this, at least not with the same intensity.

I gained around an inch of length within a year. It is possible that as much as .5" of length gain might have been length I had when younger which was "reclaimed" through an improvement in EQ. Most of that initial gain was through jelqing and Kegeling and a little stretching. I really didn't have any measurable girth gain for the first 8 months or so.

After about a year and a half length gains plateaued but I continued to gain girth slowly, but surely. At that point I started targeting length by doing a lot more stretching, low erection level jelqing, and hanging. Despite that length gains over the last year have been very modest, but I continue to slowly but surely gain girth. This is what Pegasus is talking about when he says the penis has a mind of its own, sometimes.

I am in the opposite situation from you. I am currently around 8" BPEL but only around 7" visible length and have a girth that starts at around 5.5" at the glans and goes up to around 6.25" at the base. To my eye, that looks rather stubby. I would like to gain another inch of length give or take, but really don't want to gain much more girth in the process. But I have not been successful in my goal of selectively targeting length gains thus far.

 

[rbi99]

I would also like to note that perhaps you like the length of your penis due in part to its appearence. If you add on girth, say up to 5.25, your penis may (will) appear shorter to you because of it's new proportions.

Maybe a small length gain wouldn't be the worst thing?

What you say is true, but right now his unit looks thin because of his length. Yes it will look shorter visually if he gains a lot of girth, but it will still look better than if he remains long and thin. So concentrating on girth with minimum stretching may be the best way to go right now. It remains to be seen how quickly he gains girth, and if he gains well, then he can readjust his routine.

 

[flex]

You are right, but I think virtually everything in PE can also cause length gains even if they are "directed" toward girth. There are guys who say they have gained length with clamping. I certainly gained length through jelqing. Conversely, there are individuals who say they have gained girth with hanging and extender use.

I feel it is impossible to predict exactly what the result of any technique will be in any given individual. I doubt that it is possible for many guys to selectively gain girth without length, or length without girth.

True. I gained exactly 0.25" length just from pumping for 4+ months. Go figure. Even when targeting one dimension, it's a good idea to measure the overall PE gains as volume ... it's usually more than you think ...there is a volume calculator on this page:

Mr. Average - The true story about penis size, from a site that isn't trying to sell you anything.

 

[coolmate0]

@redbear52
This makes sense perfectly. I've done some research on the specific anatomy involved in the process and found that tunica albuginea (the strong tissue surrounding corpora cavernosa) is thicker along the penis and thinner in the glans. This is why we generally reach a hard penis prior to reaching a hard glans. Being thinner in the glans, tunica albuginea is much more elastic... This means that pumping more blood in brings better results in length both at one specific moment and in time.

So this is exactly what I feared: you've seen results in length faster and this is only natural.

Also, I have just found out the difference between BPEL and NBPEL. For me, it's quite the same thing, as I'm thin. But you have a point that some length will do no harm and that I may see it smaller if I succeed to increase girth. When I said aesthetics, I also referred to reasonable veins and a general smooth aspect. I fear jelqing has an effect on this.

+ something interesting. I started with 100 medium jelqs and I found it easy. But during the process, I've noticed I can do a new move: when one hand has reached the glans, I start a new jelq with the other hand, without releasing the pressure of the first hand. Then I bring them both to about the middle. This doesn't seem much, but it gives me the impression that this could work better as a girth exercise. Considering the anatomical aspects, this, again, makes sense: working on tunica albuginea at this level should increase its elasticity and, thus, girth. However, this move should be really soft. I've done it because it seemed natural, I have no idea about the results. We'll see. Tell me what you think.

 

[thenewdude]

The same is that I really only want to gain more girth. I let my wife measure me after having the discussion of wanting a bigger penis. It came to 7 - BPEL (I have little fat content on my body) and 6 - EG, 4.5 FLPEL and FLEG - 4.5.
She tells me I don't need it any bigger and won't give me no putang if any longer.
But I disagree because I am 6'2 and it looks small to me. So I convinced her that .5 in length and girth should not pose to much of an issue just more position we can't do as if we can do most now because I hit the cervix (which I am not wanting to do). Should I just drop the whole idea due to my ego or should I go for it?

 

[redbear52]

Well, if you are asking me, I would say this: your wife has the pussy, she makes the rules.

 

[isambard]

You could try V-Jelqs if you haven't already/or if someone hasn't already suggested it.

They seemed to make my girth grow at a silly rate when I was on the JP90. So I ended up doing only 1 set per workout (he recommends 3) after the first month. I found it hard to keep my erection level low doing V-Jelqs which, having a high erection level (around 70-80%) I imagine was conducive to my girth gains.