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[Guillotine01a]

Kudos to you for trying to be cute about it, at that point if it was me I'd probably be like "bitch am i gonna see you or not" (minus the bitch lol). But she is playing games, I feel. At that point when she didn't understand I would've called her, for two reasons, to work the charm, and to see what she's about. I mean if she doesn't answer it's simple enough to get the message from that, if she does then there's a few other possibilities, but they are few. By texting you lose the element of real time conversation and answers, texting while you have an advantage to answer at will, you also run the risk of being ignored. Idk about you, but I fucking hate being ignored by a girl from a text message. She only texts you at night too which is weird in my opinion. Kind of like when you got nothing to do, so let me text this guy I sorta like. Stupid.
Honestly, good for you man you're setting yourself up for nothing short of success now, either way you can move on from this bad experience you're having and find a girl who's better, or settle down with this one and work for the best (not hope! Hope is passive, work is active). If she only wants to meet a quarter of the way, say fuck it and be done with her. The ultimatum will tell you how real she is or how fake (games) she is. If she doesn't want to move on, but doesn't want to hang either, be done with it.
Either way let me know what happens brother!!! I can give you some advice on either action, especially if she doesn't want to move on but doesn't want to hang, I know exactly how to get her if she chooses that

And be consistent with your fucking PE lol

Dude so many times I've played out in my head like "shut the hell up already and tell me", "What you said makes no fucking sense and you didn't even answer the question", "Why are you such a dumbass." haha good thing we keep those things in our heads or we'd be in dry season for months if you catch my drift I know she is playing a game. Bro I fucking hate being ignored in a txt even tho i do it a lot. But not with some thign this important. Like me askign you to hang out. The thing about calling is she used to love to talk on the phone but in the last month ever since we started fighting a bit she rarely mentions the phone anymore. Its funny, we'll have a convo on the phone and then she'll txt me like how she feels. Trust I'm more of a phone call guy myself. I mean during the day its cute but when I think a phone call is more personal. The whole night thing I have a theory about: During the day she gets up and gets ready for school, shes with her friends who probably are like he is a dumbass player and has probably been cheating on you but you just caught this. So she doesn't talk to me then. After wards she has dance
and cheer and shes part of a club (really really bright girl) so at night shes all alone and thinking and by self where she doesn't have to act like she doesn't care so she txts me.

Yeah bro, I'm my thing right now. Honestly, if this blows over and we're not together the very next day so most likely tomorrow I'm going into my contact list going under groups searching up booty call and seeing whose down to chill that night two months since I got puss its killing me larry. I think my palms are actually growing hair now

I will do my man! and we'll see what happens from there.

 

[Guillotine01a]

So guys I already txted up the ultimatum but I was wondering if I should call her and tell her or just txt her. The thing about calling is that it won't give her time to think and if I txt her she can muse over it but it loses the personal touch. besides if she doesn't txt back I'll know shes a dumbass bitch (excuse my french) and that will be enough to lose total interest because she is very immature. help on this asap would be nice cause I want to send it in the next hour.

*insert name here*, I'm going to be straight forward, if your so sad without me then lets meet up and talk and solve this. If after we talk you still find it that your setting yourself up for disaster then we'll call it quits. I'll get on with my life and so will you. As of right now, I see it as your playing games with me and with yourself and its just a big distraction to us both. Its been more then a week now and I've apologized and explained but you still won't try and move forward, which is what i would like to do with you. I never cheated and it was simply immature fooling around. like I mentioned before, I was free this week but if you want to meet face to face we can plan something this weekend if you want to fix this. As of now if you have no intentions of making this better and putting things back where they were then it'd be in the best interest for us both if we got over each other and moved on with our lives.

Milla, thank you soo much for helping. I loved what you told me to put so much cause it explained everything. i barely even changed it. thanks bruhh

 

[Pegasus]

Sounds good G, now all you have to do is be worthy if she wants to move forward.

 

[millia]

If my girl could read my mind, lmao, I'd be in some sh*t. But thankfully girls are not mind readers so yeah. I hate being ignored period, especially through text, you just texted me back 2 mins ago and now you're "sleeping" or something? yeah fucking right what kind of an idiot am I supposed to be? Just have the balls to be straight up with me instead of playing games. If you're confused yourself then tell me from the get go, instead of jerking me around. And yea I feel you on the phone call thing, I prefer my phone calls at night because during the day I'm busy and have lots of sh*t to be doing and running around and unexpected things, so texting is better then.
And yea I agree with you on your theory, but I think its more of they talked about you already and ok they don't like you and whatever, so she doesn't want to be seen talking to you by her friends because they'll be all like OMG LIKE WTF ARE U TALKING TO HIM FOR BLAH BLAH BLAH! Then at night when she's alone she can talk to you and not worry.
Lmao man I'm sorry to hear about your palms, but yea a booty call is in order!
Even though I'm late on this, call her. Don't text because you'll most likely not get a response.

Your ultimatum/straight forwardness thing is fine I wouldn't change it, looks fine.

And no problem bro, for some reason I'm just good at giving advice when it comes to females.

 

[MrBigDick]

OK, I've tried to read this entire thread and Guillotine01A, man, you have been WAY MORE than patient with this broad. What crap you've tolerated from this chick, a chick that YOU WEREN'T EVEN EXCLUSIVE WITH mind you, and she's done nothing but play games with you from my estimations. Personally, if it were me, I'd have cut her and the drama she comes with loose sometime ago but that's me. At nearly 40, I have neither the time nor the patience for that kind of ridiculous, immature bullshit from any girl. You MUST seriously like her. I'll admit, when you have high standards and find one that meets your criteria, it's really hard to let go but there has to be other women out there bro that'll meet your expectations. Like you, I had a list too and I've slowly, over time and in dating other women, cut certain items from my list. My current gf doesn't hit on most any of the points on my list yet I absolutely dig her.

In any event bro, ultimately what you choose to do is your decision to make, but hold your ground bro and don't let her keep playing these mind games with you. I mean, I totally get what Batwoman and others said about her being scared of trusting you and keeping you at an arms length for a reason and such but sh*t, would you REALLY want to start a relationship with a girl who can't move past a stupid little mistake you made? Life and relationships are about forgiving, forgetting and going forward in life, not holding onto a stupid little error you made and then making you pay for it over and over and over and over............I mean, enough is enough.

We're all behind you man, with whatever you choose to do.

 

[Guillotine01a]

There has been a catch guys. I'm going to cut this in half long story short type of thing because I really don't want to think about it. Friday night she txts me that she wants to hang out finally then two hours later she txts me saying she just over it and I say later then. I get an anonymous tip that she likes a buddy of mine. I call that guy Saturday and he tells me the story. He says this. Bro Im going to be completely honest, we've been talking for three weeks. We hooked up like three days ago. He said it was a kiss. He said that she told him we ended things a month ago and we're rough for the last month and there was no way of getting back. Im pissed and I'm like bro I'd prefer you not talk to her and he was like Im not going to say no cause I like her a little and she likes me I think. He said he had no clue we were still together and broke things off just recently but and he would of backed of. I don't really believe this but he wasn't really my friend. He was good friends with my bro. What pissed me off was that she was tryna play me this whole week and talking to him. I called her up and let my emotions free and called her a slut and now everything makes sense. She held a grudge cause she felt guilty of what she was doing. She tries to kuss me out back. then txts me twice that night saying shes not a slut and I know her better. She txts me this morning saying we need to talk. I'm not going to reply. Really the guy isn't an angel but he didn't do anything wrong how I see it. I saw him today and we just avoided each other. He talked to my bro and he said that he didn't know and that if my bro wants him to stop he will stop cause he doesn't want to lose my bro as a friend. My bro told him if he honestly still wants to talk to her after seeing how scandalous she is then thats on him but he didn't do anything wrong really. he said he doesn't really care about what happens between me and him cause we were never exactly close but he hopes I understand. Fuck it. I'm def. not gonna fight over a slut. Maybe if she was worth it. I'm just really bummed out about the whole thing. haha I went out last night after this whole thing and got some from a girl. Just a make out dry hump sesh but its better then nothing. Tryna keep my mind off things so yeah. In the end, I told her that was the reason i never asked her out I wasn't totally sure but thank god I never did. the thing that sucks is that now I know my friend is gonna talk to her so she can never be totally blocked out.

 

[MrBigDick]

There has been a catch guys. I'm going to cut this in half long story short type of thing because I really don't want to think about it. Friday night she txts me that she wants to hang out finally then two hours later she txts me saying she just over it and I say later then. I get an anonymous tip that she likes a buddy of mine. I call that guy Saturday and he tells me the story. He says this. Bro Im going to be completely honest, we've been talking for three weeks. We hooked up like three days ago. He said it was a kiss. He said that she told him we ended things a month ago and we're rough for the last month and there was no way of getting back. Im pissed and I'm like bro I'd prefer you not talk to her and he was like Im not going to say no cause I like her a little and she likes me I think. He said he had no clue we were still together and broke things off just recently but and he would of backed of. I don't really believe this but he wasn't really my friend. He was good friends with my bro. What pissed me off was that she was tryna play me this whole week and talking to him. I called her up and let my emotions free and called her a slut and now everything makes sense. She held a grudge cause she felt guilty of what she was doing. She tries to kuss me out back. then txts me twice that night saying shes not a slut and I know her better. She txts me this morning saying we need to talk. I'm not going to reply. Really the guy isn't an angel but he didn't do anything wrong how I see it. I saw him today and we just avoided each other. He talked to my bro and he said that he didn't know and that if my bro wants him to stop he will stop cause he doesn't want to lose my bro as a friend. My bro told him if he honestly still wants to talk to her after seeing how scandalous she is then thats on him but he didn't do anything wrong really. he said he doesn't really care about what happens between me and him cause we were never exactly close but he hopes I understand. Fuck it. I'm def. not gonna fight over a slut. Maybe if she was worth it. I'm just really bummed out about the whole thing. haha I went out last night after this whole thing and got some from a girl. Just a make out dry hump sesh but its better then nothing. Tryna keep my mind off things so yeah. In the end, I told her that was the reason i never asked her out I wasn't totally sure but thank god I never did. the thing that sucks is that now I know my friend is gonna talk to her so she can never be totally blocked out.

Well, you two weren't exactly exclusive, so it should be good. BUT, the important thing here, you know now what you're dealing with. You don't need that kind of immature bullshit from a girl like that.

 

[Guillotine01a]

Well, you two weren't exactly exclusive, so it should be good. BUT, the important thing here, you know now what you're dealing with. You don't need that kind of immature bullshit from a girl like that.

Yeah weren't bf/gf but we we're seriously talking. It was basically bf/gf without the name. She told me she told everyone she was dating someone and I did the same. Like we told each other after 4 months that we weren't going to talk to anyone else.

 

[millia]

Hey G did you graduate HS yet?
And sorry to hear that bro but it's common high school drama bullshit!
You're friend is at least going the right way about it and saying the bro's over hoes thing, but still she's a grimey ass chick. Girls like that who play around have no room in your life, and she's not worth it.
There will come a time when you meet a girl who is just perfect for you, and will make it all worth it, until then have your fun! Just remember I spent 6 years single before I found my current girl, and she's just amazing so far. I'm leaving to Hawaii for 3 weeks at the end of next month and I am not worried about her cheating because I've known her for about 4 years. I just started to get to know her in January because she was an athletic trainer in high school, and I was a fat obnoxious offensive lineman. Now I'm just an asshole with some stupid crazy swag.
She had a 3 month rule for sex, it took me a week and 3 days after we made it official to get it, my game is on point bro. You will find a girl like that one of these days!
Let me know if you need anything else and keep me updated about this bro!

 

[MrBigDick]

Hey G did you graduate HS yet?
And sorry to hear that bro but it's common high school drama bullshit!
You're friend is at least going the right way about it and saying the bro's over hoes thing, but still she's a grimey ass chick. Girls like that who play around have no room in your life, and she's not worth it.
There will come a time when you meet a girl who is just perfect for you, and will make it all worth it, until then have your fun! Just remember I spent 6 years single before I found my current girl, and she's just amazing so far. I'm leaving to Hawaii for 3 weeks at the end of next month and I am not worried about her cheating because I've known her for about 4 years. I just started to get to know her in January because she was an athletic trainer in high school, and I was a fat obnoxious offensive lineman. Now I'm just an asshole with some stupid crazy swag.
She had a 3 month rule for sex, it took me a week and 3 days after we made it official to get it, my game is on point bro. You will find a girl like that one of these days!
Let me know if you need anything else and keep me updated about this bro!

I got news for you millia, that drama bullshit isn't limited to high school, it extends throughout life. The only thing you can hope for is that by the time a woman reaches her 30's & 40's, she's outgrown it but some never do. My ex gf for instance, she's 50. She always claimed that she hated drama, yet I've never seen any one woman create more of her own drama than she did.

Most women by the time they've matured have HOPEFULLY left the drama behind them but some of them just can't let it go.

And, can I go to Hawaii with you??? lol I SOOOOO need a vacation right now and HI would be perfect.

 

[Pirate]

Alas, I must second MrBigDick's comment: far too many people, men and women, emotionally never make it out of high school. The best that you can do is try to learn to recognize them early and keep as much distance from them as you can manage.
Good luck sailing on to better seas, Guillotine!

 

[millia]

I got news for you millia, that drama bullshit isn't limited to high school, it extends throughout life. The only thing you can hope for is that by the time a woman reaches her 30's & 40's, she's outgrown it but some never do. My ex gf for instance, she's 50. She always claimed that she hated drama, yet I've never seen any one woman create more of her own drama than she did.

Most women by the time they've matured have HOPEFULLY left the drama behind them but some of them just can't let it go.

And, can I go to Hawaii with you??? lol I SOOOOO need a vacation right now and HI would be perfect.

Oh I know it isn't limited to HS, but I know the age of the postee with the issue and I was wondering if he had graduated or not. One of my good buddies acts the same he did when he was in high school and now that a bunch of sh*t has caught up with him he's all pissed off because its college now, and you got mwa fuggin responabilities, naw mean?
And sure, if you don't mind spending 3 weeks on a military base then you're more then welcome, I need a drinking buddy anyways

Alas, I must second MrBigDick's comment: far too many people, men and women, emotionally never make it out of high school. The best that you can do is try to learn to recognize them early and keep as much distance from them as you can manage.
Good luck sailing on to better seas, Guillotine!

And that's what I do more or less, all my friends are genuine people not fake people who act like something they're not, I stay away from the bullshit drama and just do my own thning. Life is simpler that way.

Anyways G let us know what's going on bro, we're all here for ya and rooting for you bud !

 

[MrBigDick]

Oh I know it isn't limited to HS, but I know the age of the postee with the issue and I was wondering if he had graduated or not. One of my good buddies acts the same he did when he was in high school and now that a bunch of sh*t has caught up with him he's all pissed off because its college now, and you got mwa fuggin responabilities, naw mean?
And sure, if you don't mind spending 3 weeks on a military base then you're more then welcome, I need a drinking buddy anyways

And that's what I do more or less, all my friends are genuine people not fake people who act like something they're not, I stay away from the bullshit drama and just do my own thning. Life is simpler that way.

Anyways G let us know what's going on bro, we're all here for ya and rooting for you bud !

Drinking buddy huh? Throw me a double jack n coke and let the good times roll. And yes, I do know what you mean about college and the increase of responsibilities (I think that's what you said).........I did college for 10 long years.

 

[millia]

Yes that is what I said haha. But yeah college is no joke, I took it as a joke and fucked up hard my first year, paying for it, and the road to redemption is long, but I have found a new outlook on life and a work ethic I have never experienced before. It's awesome.

And yes, a drinking buddy would be required. I would say exercise buddy as well but the doctor told me today that I'll probably have to take it easy before I start cardio and sh*t again, boo.

 

[MrBigDick]

Yes that is what I said haha. But yeah college is no joke, I took it as a joke and fucked up hard my first year, paying for it, and the road to redemption is long, but I have found a new outlook on life and a work ethic I have never experienced before. It's awesome.

And yes, a drinking buddy would be required. I would say exercise buddy as well but the doctor told me today that I'll probably have to take it easy before I start cardio and sh*t again, boo.

Again dude, you're preachin' to the choir. It took me 10 years to get a stupid 4 year degree that I haven't put to any use and I graduated in '99!!! In fact, it's really, REALLY hard for me to promote a college education to my own two kids because I know that in this wild, crazy world, it's not what you know rather who you know that gets you ahead. You can have all the book smarts and every degree known to mankind but if you lack connections and the ability to network, all that education could easily land you flipping patties at Mickey D's.

 

[calixto]

Again dude, you're preachin' to the choir. It took me 10 years to get a stupid 4 year degree that I haven't put to any use and I graduated in '99!!! In fact, it's really, REALLY hard for me to promote a college education to my own two kids because I know that in this wild, crazy world, it's not what you know rather who you know that gets you ahead. You can have all the book smarts and every degree known to mankind but if you lack connections and the ability to network, all that education could easily land you flipping patties at Mickey D's.

So true, I sometimes wonder if it was even worth it, and when you consider the debt, NO WAY AT ALL!!!

I spent 10 years in academia as well, got a masters, and it has done nothing for me. ugh, I wish it would though, but so far NADA!

 

[baybabe]

DAMN, Thats pretty good.

Isn't it amazing how a good looking woman can cause our brains to malfunction?

Yeah, god you guys are idiots! Just kiddin but only sorta lol. You guys STOP thinking with your brain! Guys always seem to be looking for that better looking girl, whats up with that?

 

[baybabe]

PLEEEEEASE don't make us relive that.... any of it.

Shoot, I wanna smack the hoe too...jk

What do you think is her problem? Or whats going on in her mind?

What she was thinking is... I dont wanna get hurt, I think he's a player, is what he says the truth? Probably not. Ima keep him on standby until I figure it out, I wont let him get too close because my heart is safer when Im not fully committed to this deal with this dude. Lets just see how much he cares then I'll ask ALLLLLL my girlfriends opinions and decide later if I want him.
G...it sounds like you want her more when she's not sure if she wants you. btw sounds like she may have a man or two on the side thats the non-commital tone in her messages. OHHHHH Hold up, I'm reading your 10 pages of posts and replying as I go...pretty sure you just said shes hookin up with another bro. Smells like payback. Sheesh who needs my freekin "Cosmo" magazine lol DRAMA!
Is this the girl you referred to as a good girl only been with one guy or was that the other girl? Do you guys believe EVERYTHING a pretty girl tells you?

So whats next G? My advice (for what its worth) is try not to take all this (as well as future girl prob's) too seriously. You were sounding like this was the girl you planed to be with for the rest of your life or something? FYI if a girl is telling you she wants to get with you and she misses you but then she never gets with you and she plays all these head games its cause your on her "To Do" list of guys...your not the only one, she's playing a few. Just like you were keeping your options open by flirting with other girls to see who gets your top rate. Hope all that didnt sound too harsh.

 

[calixto]

Alas, I must second MrBigDick's comment: far too many people, men and women, emotionally never make it out of high school. The best that you can do is try to learn to recognize them early and keep as much distance from them as you can manage.
Good luck sailing on to better seas, Guillotine!

Perfect, rep points!

 

[Pegasus]

Ah, the blond from the south ,speaks by far more sense than is on the rest of this thread!!
Power to your brain ,that cut through this thread like a mighty sword through butter!