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How I Cured My Severe PE In 3 Weeks - Using Vitamins & Supplements!
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Ralph, are you asking him if he can get tested or you are asking in general ? I got inspired but Bigstart20 and I got my Kryptopyrroles (Pyroluria) tested - still waiting for the results and I way do hope to return positive.
I'm also thinking to get my hormones including prolactin, serotonin, depomin and norepinephrine tested but that's expensive if I go private, should ask my GP if I can get them tested.
I'm also thinking to get my hormones including prolactin, serotonin, depomin and norepinephrine tested but that's expensive if I go private, should ask my GP if I can get them tested.
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Hi guys
Here are ingredients of my multivitamin pill (theragran ultra by gsk):
[Potassium Salts:7.5mg,
Retinol (Vitamin A):5500IU,
Riboflavin (Vitamin B2):3.4mg,
Selenium (Sulphide):10mcg,
Thiamine HCl (Vitamin B1):3mg,
Tocopherol (Vitamin E):30IU,
Zinc Oxide:15mg,
Chloride:7.5mg,
Ascorbic Acid:120mg,
Biotin:15mcg,
Calciferol D3:400IU,
Calcium Carbonate:40mg,
Cyanocobalamin:9mcg,
Folic Acid:400mcg,
Iron Salts:27mg,
Iodine:150mcg,
Magnesium Oxides and Hydroxides:100mg,
Pantothenic Acid:10mg]
I have been taking this supplement since 3 weeks in the afternoon. I have noticed this particular multivitamin is working for me to control the mental arousal.
After 5-6 hours of taking this supplement, I feel I can edge as long as I want. It keeps my mental arousal in control. In fact, I have to keep my focus on sexy imagination and stroke fast to keep EQ at good level, otherwise, I start loosing erection. I have highlighted the items, which I think are helping me to control the mental arousal.
In addition, I am taking 100mg B6 in the morning, and 50 mg in the afternoon. I think it is wonderful vitamin and has a pivotal role in metabolism. It cures the chronic inflammation (which I think is a big reason for IK's and premature ejaculation).
I have stopped taking another iron supplement after 2 weeks.
I am seeing hope to fix the premature ejaculation issue as well, as it has fixed anxiety, restless legs etc.
Cheers
Here are ingredients of my multivitamin pill (theragran ultra by gsk):
[Potassium Salts:7.5mg,
Retinol (Vitamin A):5500IU,
Riboflavin (Vitamin B2):3.4mg,
Selenium (Sulphide):10mcg,
Thiamine HCl (Vitamin B1):3mg,
Tocopherol (Vitamin E):30IU,
Zinc Oxide:15mg,
Chloride:7.5mg,
Ascorbic Acid:120mg,
Biotin:15mcg,
Calciferol D3:400IU,
Calcium Carbonate:40mg,
Cyanocobalamin:9mcg,
Folic Acid:400mcg,
Iron Salts:27mg,
Iodine:150mcg,
Magnesium Oxides and Hydroxides:100mg,
Pantothenic Acid:10mg]
I have been taking this supplement since 3 weeks in the afternoon. I have noticed this particular multivitamin is working for me to control the mental arousal.
After 5-6 hours of taking this supplement, I feel I can edge as long as I want. It keeps my mental arousal in control. In fact, I have to keep my focus on sexy imagination and stroke fast to keep EQ at good level, otherwise, I start loosing erection. I have highlighted the items, which I think are helping me to control the mental arousal.
In addition, I am taking 100mg B6 in the morning, and 50 mg in the afternoon. I think it is wonderful vitamin and has a pivotal role in metabolism. It cures the chronic inflammation (which I think is a big reason for IK's and premature ejaculation).
I have stopped taking another iron supplement after 2 weeks.
I am seeing hope to fix the premature ejaculation issue as well, as it has fixed anxiety, restless legs etc.
Cheers
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still popping 2 pills of Vitamin B Komplex daily (600% RDA of B1, B2, B3 (niacin), B5 (pantothenic acid), B6, B7 (biotin), B9 (folic acid), B12)
since iam on a sort of modified Paleo diet i guess iam getting decent amount of proteins from my daily food intake (Tryptophan is a protein amino acid)...
so i guess its more about fine-tuning the "aiding" vitamins to utilize all the tryptophan i eat
check the graphs posted on this thread for the SEROTONIN and GABA pathways (thanks sameel)
and here for DOPAMINE pathway (mental health : Light Chiropractic and Wellness)
made a table of some foods i eat (the values are corelated to specified portion sizes) - this is in no way diet suggestion… its just part of my exisitng diet...
the only aiding element i couldnt find statistical data for is "Taurine" mentioned in GABA pathway, also the B9 (folic acid) statistical data is probably inaccurate (all zeros) - all data take from NutritionData.com
i was looking for rough estimate how much pathway sources and aiding agents i can ingest via my normal diet…
columns 1-3 are pathway sources in mg: Tryptophan, Phenylalanine, Tyrosine
columns 4-14 are various aiding agents mentioned in the pathways in % of RDA: Iron, Magnesium, Zinc, Calcium, Copper, B5 (pantothenic acid), B1 (thiamin), B3 (niacin), B6, B9 (folic acid), Vitamin C
you should be idealy getting 100% of each aiding element every day (RDA)
i guess given my mix of breakfast, lunch, dinner - mostly paleo style with lots of proteins… i guess i might be getting enough "pathway sources" from my diet (Tryptophan, Phenylalanine, Tyrosine), but i bet iam not geting enough of all the aiding agents…
i guess on some days i get less than 20% RDA on some of the aiding agents… so the ingested amino acid sources are left unused and unconverted to neurotransmitters…
i will definitelly investigate some MULTIVITAMIN pills to get all the aiding sources supplemented… i just have to figure out how to combine MULTIVITAMIN with the B KOMPLEX so i dont overdo the percentages (id like to keep B vitamins under 600% RDA so its still "supplementing" and not biohacking
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currently evaluating some high quality Multivitamin brands available in local shops (Reflex Nutrition, Viridian Nutrition, etc.) and their % RDA of the "aiding agents" utilised in SEROTONIN / GABA / DOPAMIN pathways... will post another table when iam done calculating...
since iam on a sort of modified Paleo diet i guess iam getting decent amount of proteins from my daily food intake (Tryptophan is a protein amino acid)...
so i guess its more about fine-tuning the "aiding" vitamins to utilize all the tryptophan i eat
check the graphs posted on this thread for the SEROTONIN and GABA pathways (thanks sameel)
and here for DOPAMINE pathway (mental health : Light Chiropractic and Wellness)
made a table of some foods i eat (the values are corelated to specified portion sizes) - this is in no way diet suggestion… its just part of my exisitng diet...
the only aiding element i couldnt find statistical data for is "Taurine" mentioned in GABA pathway, also the B9 (folic acid) statistical data is probably inaccurate (all zeros) - all data take from NutritionData.com
i was looking for rough estimate how much pathway sources and aiding agents i can ingest via my normal diet…
columns 1-3 are pathway sources in mg: Tryptophan, Phenylalanine, Tyrosine
columns 4-14 are various aiding agents mentioned in the pathways in % of RDA: Iron, Magnesium, Zinc, Calcium, Copper, B5 (pantothenic acid), B1 (thiamin), B3 (niacin), B6, B9 (folic acid), Vitamin C
you should be idealy getting 100% of each aiding element every day (RDA)
i guess given my mix of breakfast, lunch, dinner - mostly paleo style with lots of proteins… i guess i might be getting enough "pathway sources" from my diet (Tryptophan, Phenylalanine, Tyrosine), but i bet iam not geting enough of all the aiding agents…
i guess on some days i get less than 20% RDA on some of the aiding agents… so the ingested amino acid sources are left unused and unconverted to neurotransmitters…
i will definitelly investigate some MULTIVITAMIN pills to get all the aiding sources supplemented… i just have to figure out how to combine MULTIVITAMIN with the B KOMPLEX so i dont overdo the percentages (id like to keep B vitamins under 600% RDA so its still "supplementing" and not biohacking
right-click View Image for larger version
currently evaluating some high quality Multivitamin brands available in local shops (Reflex Nutrition, Viridian Nutrition, etc.) and their % RDA of the "aiding agents" utilised in SEROTONIN / GABA / DOPAMIN pathways... will post another table when iam done calculating...
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Have you tried either of these safe, widely used over-the-counter products to control your PE... Deferol Climax Control and Climagen?
my personal approach is not to eat any pills if i dont know its content... especially with brain nutrients... they can seriously fuck you up even if they are OTC...
Deferol doesnt specify on their page whats in it... probably some combination of 5-HTP, SAMe, John Wort and whatever they could throw in without necesary FDA aproval so its still an OTC supplement with absolutelly no obligations on their side...
Deferol:
Pyridoxine 50mg (B6 - 3846% RDA)
Folic Acid 0.4mg (B9 - 100% RDA)
Proprietary Blend: 125mg (can be anything, most likely 50-100mg of 5-HTP, SAMe, John Wort)
Dosage:
As a dietary supplement, take one capsule daily. For best results take an additional one or two capsules one to two hours before activity.
Iam not saying Deferol doesnt work !!! Just unsure about long-term effects... Unless you know what you eat you cant research on the side-effects and dosage... you could be popping up to 150mg 5-HTP or SAMe without even knowing it...
Climagen i couldnt find anything at all... except "Climagen F" which is for menopausal women...
Deferol doesnt specify on their page whats in it... probably some combination of 5-HTP, SAMe, John Wort and whatever they could throw in without necesary FDA aproval so its still an OTC supplement with absolutelly no obligations on their side...
Deferol:
Pyridoxine 50mg (B6 - 3846% RDA)
Folic Acid 0.4mg (B9 - 100% RDA)
Proprietary Blend: 125mg (can be anything, most likely 50-100mg of 5-HTP, SAMe, John Wort)
Dosage:
As a dietary supplement, take one capsule daily. For best results take an additional one or two capsules one to two hours before activity.
Iam not saying Deferol doesnt work !!! Just unsure about long-term effects... Unless you know what you eat you cant research on the side-effects and dosage... you could be popping up to 150mg 5-HTP or SAMe without even knowing it...
Climagen i couldnt find anything at all... except "Climagen F" which is for menopausal women...
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FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
i've been reading through the wiki pages of the Vitamin B family and there are some alarming evidence about suspected VITAMIN B6 NEUROTOXICITY in high doses (especially from suplements). Currently different expert boards around the world (EU, UK, US) issue slightly different guides... but it could be said roughly that for Vitamin B6:
50mg is harmfull (EU)
25mg is TOLERABLE UPPER intake (EU)
10mg is SAVE UPPER intake (UK)
1.3mg is RDA (Worldwide)
An than there is of course United States Of America where FDA says 100mg is TOLERABLE UPPER limit - thats is 2x more than "harmfull" in EU and 4x more than TOLERABLE UPPER limit in EU... crazy :boom:
B vitamins - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Vitamin B6 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
this sentence is mind-blowing: Recently, a growing number of consumer reports indicate B[SUB]6[/SUB] can cause severe toxicity and permanent disability, even at RDI (Recommended Daily Intake) levels.
check this guy's post (referenced from Wiki B6 Toxicity) - sounds horrible: B6 Toxicity - Nutrition - MedHelp
Just for your consideration, the OP (Bigstar20) was popping 300mg of B6 - i know, i know "he had the Pyroluria"... i leave to everyone to decide if this whole idea with B6 and 5-HTP is worth pursuing...
just as a precaution, for the time being, i lowered my B KOMPLEX from 2 pills (8mg B6) to 1 pill (4mg B6) - its still way more than 1.3mg RDA...
i am currently comparing nutrient levels of several different MULTIVITAMIN and MINERAL products and their combinations to come to an ideal mix of all nutrients WHILE KEEPING THE B6 IN CHECK (ie. way below UK SAFE UPPER INTAKE of 10mg)
i've been reading through the wiki pages of the Vitamin B family and there are some alarming evidence about suspected VITAMIN B6 NEUROTOXICITY in high doses (especially from suplements). Currently different expert boards around the world (EU, UK, US) issue slightly different guides... but it could be said roughly that for Vitamin B6:
50mg is harmfull (EU)
25mg is TOLERABLE UPPER intake (EU)
10mg is SAVE UPPER intake (UK)
1.3mg is RDA (Worldwide)
An than there is of course United States Of America where FDA says 100mg is TOLERABLE UPPER limit - thats is 2x more than "harmfull" in EU and 4x more than TOLERABLE UPPER limit in EU... crazy :boom:
B vitamins - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Vitamin B6 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
this sentence is mind-blowing: Recently, a growing number of consumer reports indicate B[SUB]6[/SUB] can cause severe toxicity and permanent disability, even at RDI (Recommended Daily Intake) levels.
check this guy's post (referenced from Wiki B6 Toxicity) - sounds horrible: B6 Toxicity - Nutrition - MedHelp
Just for your consideration, the OP (Bigstar20) was popping 300mg of B6 - i know, i know "he had the Pyroluria"... i leave to everyone to decide if this whole idea with B6 and 5-HTP is worth pursuing...
just as a precaution, for the time being, i lowered my B KOMPLEX from 2 pills (8mg B6) to 1 pill (4mg B6) - its still way more than 1.3mg RDA...
i am currently comparing nutrient levels of several different MULTIVITAMIN and MINERAL products and their combinations to come to an ideal mix of all nutrients WHILE KEEPING THE B6 IN CHECK (ie. way below UK SAFE UPPER INTAKE of 10mg)
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Climaxagen's Powerful Ingredients for Stamina and Control
Ingredients:
Epimedium (Horny Goat Weed)
L-lysine, L-theanine, L-Carnitine, L-serine
Passiflora incarnata plant extract
B1, B2, B6, B9 Folic Acid, B12, B5 Pantothenic Acid,
L-Glutamic Acid, N-Acetyl-L-Carnitine, Pyroglutamate, L-Methionine,
Dong Quai, St. John's Wort, Griffonia Simplicifola Extract, Melatonin,
Microcrystalline Cellulose, Dicalcium Phosphate, Stearic Acid, Silicon Dioxide, Croscarmellose Sodium, Magnesium Stearate, Hypromellose, Titanium Dioxide, Polydextrose, Maltodextrin, Medium Chain Triglycerides
WOW, pretty impressive chemlab... its supposed to fights both stamina and vasodilation and blood flow for bigger errection...
We recommend taking 2 tablets on a daily basis to achieve maximum results.
personally iam too coward to pop these things... my personal courage pretty much ends with vitamins / minerals and diet changes...
i dont feel easy popping 2 tablets of some 20+ ingredients every day
DDCRLO: how long you use the Climaxagen and how much it helped you ? (like 1 minute lasting to 15 minute or what ?) thanks
Ingredients:
Epimedium (Horny Goat Weed)
L-lysine, L-theanine, L-Carnitine, L-serine
Passiflora incarnata plant extract
B1, B2, B6, B9 Folic Acid, B12, B5 Pantothenic Acid,
L-Glutamic Acid, N-Acetyl-L-Carnitine, Pyroglutamate, L-Methionine,
Dong Quai, St. John's Wort, Griffonia Simplicifola Extract, Melatonin,
Microcrystalline Cellulose, Dicalcium Phosphate, Stearic Acid, Silicon Dioxide, Croscarmellose Sodium, Magnesium Stearate, Hypromellose, Titanium Dioxide, Polydextrose, Maltodextrin, Medium Chain Triglycerides
WOW, pretty impressive chemlab... its supposed to fights both stamina and vasodilation and blood flow for bigger errection...
We recommend taking 2 tablets on a daily basis to achieve maximum results.
personally iam too coward to pop these things... my personal courage pretty much ends with vitamins / minerals and diet changes...
i dont feel easy popping 2 tablets of some 20+ ingredients every day
DDCRLO: how long you use the Climaxagen and how much it helped you ? (like 1 minute lasting to 15 minute or what ?) thanks
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i never took the "pyroluria" explanation seriously... but apart from that its a fact that Vitamin B is crucial in both Dopamine and Serotonin biosynthesis so thats why iam still interested...
i dont want to drop the ball yet
i was determined for long time that i should be eating some MULTIVITAMINS in my life anyway, so this thread is a good cause to do the investigation and choose one brand to stick to...
here are some TOP RECOMMENDED multivitamin formulas and their Vitamin B6 content
for your consideration i repeat some guidelines issued on Vitamin B6 suspected toxicity:
50mg is harmfull (EU)
25mg is TOLERABLE UPPER intake (EU)
10mg is SAVE UPPER intake (UK)
1.3mg is RDA (Worldwide)
****************************************************************
I highlighted the MULTIVITAMINS under 10mg SAVE UPPER intake...
Nature Made
- Multi For Him 4mg
- Multi Complete 2mg
- Multi Daily 2mg
GNC
- Mega Man 50mg
- Ultra Mega Gold 100mg
- Ultra Mega 75mg
Optimum Nutrition (OM)
- Opti-Men 6mg
NOW
- Adam 25mg
- Daily Vits 2mg
- True Balance 16.5mg
- Vit-Min 75+ Multiple 75mg
- Liquid Multi Gels 50mg
Nature's Way
- Alive! Max Potency 50mg
- Alive! Men's Max Potency 50mg
- Alive! Once Daily Ultra Potency 40mg
- Completia Diabetic 100mg
Garden Of Life
- Vitamin Code Men 4mg
- Vitamin Code Family 6mg
Rainbow Light
- Men's One 25mg
- Complete Nutritional System 40mg
- Just Once 6mg
- Performance Energy for Men 36mg
- Active Health Teen 30mg
- Brain & Focus 22.5mg
- Certified Organics Men's 18mg
New Chapter
- Every Man 5mg
- Every Man II 10mg
- Every Man One Daily 2mg
- Only One 6mg
i dont want to drop the ball yet
i was determined for long time that i should be eating some MULTIVITAMINS in my life anyway, so this thread is a good cause to do the investigation and choose one brand to stick to...
here are some TOP RECOMMENDED multivitamin formulas and their Vitamin B6 content
for your consideration i repeat some guidelines issued on Vitamin B6 suspected toxicity:
50mg is harmfull (EU)
25mg is TOLERABLE UPPER intake (EU)
10mg is SAVE UPPER intake (UK)
1.3mg is RDA (Worldwide)
****************************************************************
I highlighted the MULTIVITAMINS under 10mg SAVE UPPER intake...
Nature Made
- Multi For Him 4mg
- Multi Complete 2mg
- Multi Daily 2mg
GNC
- Mega Man 50mg
- Ultra Mega Gold 100mg
- Ultra Mega 75mg
Optimum Nutrition (OM)
- Opti-Men 6mg
NOW
- Adam 25mg
- Daily Vits 2mg
- True Balance 16.5mg
- Vit-Min 75+ Multiple 75mg
- Liquid Multi Gels 50mg
Nature's Way
- Alive! Max Potency 50mg
- Alive! Men's Max Potency 50mg
- Alive! Once Daily Ultra Potency 40mg
- Completia Diabetic 100mg
Garden Of Life
- Vitamin Code Men 4mg
- Vitamin Code Family 6mg
Rainbow Light
- Men's One 25mg
- Complete Nutritional System 40mg
- Just Once 6mg
- Performance Energy for Men 36mg
- Active Health Teen 30mg
- Brain & Focus 22.5mg
- Certified Organics Men's 18mg
New Chapter
- Every Man 5mg
- Every Man II 10mg
- Every Man One Daily 2mg
- Only One 6mg
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The cream worked the first and every time I have used it. I use it daily before my routine
since discovering that B6 is suspected to be harmfull at as low dosage as 25mg and neurotoxic starting at 50mg of long-term use... i decided i will keep suplementing only around Recommended Daily Allowance (% RDA)... i researched content of 33 popular multivitamins from 12 different brands for the key ingredients required in Serotonin, Dopamine, GABA (except Taurine) biosynthesis... and decided to take the SAFE ROUTE with these:
Nature Made Multi For Him Tablet
these are "AS BALANCED AS YOU CAN GET" and thats a good thing... most ingredients are bang on 100% with no excesses which is good... as you can see they "doubled" B6 to 4mg (200%RDA) and given the controversy surrounding B6 i think its safer to not overdo things... 200% is good enough in daily long-term use...
this pretty much concludes the original post by Bigstar20 for me personally... after 4 days of heavy research i made a full circle from first going for 300% B6 than 600% B6 than finding out about its suspected neurotoxicity and controversy... i went back to humble 200% B6... i was never prepared to try 5HTP and similar supplements because they are in my opinion not much different from SSRI - thus they make difference but the long-term side effects are too controversial...
iam the kind of guy who is against 5HTP pills, L-Tryptophan pills, SSRI pills, SAMe pills, St. John Wort pills... and lately against B6 pills with doses larger than the 10mg (SAVE UPPER INTAKE declared by The Expert Group on Vitamins and Minerals of the Food Standard Agency UK)
the selected Nature Made Multi For Him Tablet will keep anybody supplied with 100% of key ingredients and if you want you can experiment from there (you can rise B6 to 10mg 500% RDA via solo B6 supplement or you can add more magnesium and iron to rise it to 100% RDA)... but with Nature Made Multi For Him Tablet you have a solid base and thats most important for me... iam not a very big fan of experimenting on your body with "therapeutic" doses (500% - 3000%)...
one last note... if you are outside USA you cant buy the pills directly from manufacturer or amazon.com so i advise to use EBAY.COM... i bought the pills from UK large supplement seller on EBAY.COM
Nature Made Multi For Him Tablet
| Multi For Him (mg/mcg) | Multi For Him % RDA | |
| iron | 0 | 0 |
| magnesium | 100 | 25 |
| zinc | 15 | 100 |
| copper | 2 | 100 |
| calcium | 162 | 16 |
| Vitamin C | 180 | 300 |
| B1 (thiamin) | 1.5 | 100 |
| B2 (riboflavin) | 1.7 | 100 |
| B3 (niacin) | 20 | 100 |
| B5 (pantothenic acid) | 10 | 100 |
| B6 (pyridoxine) | 4 | 200 |
| B7 (biotin) | 30 | 10 |
| B9 (folic acid) | 400 | 100 |
| B12 (cobalamin) | 18 | 300 |
these are "AS BALANCED AS YOU CAN GET" and thats a good thing... most ingredients are bang on 100% with no excesses which is good... as you can see they "doubled" B6 to 4mg (200%RDA) and given the controversy surrounding B6 i think its safer to not overdo things... 200% is good enough in daily long-term use...
this pretty much concludes the original post by Bigstar20 for me personally... after 4 days of heavy research i made a full circle from first going for 300% B6 than 600% B6 than finding out about its suspected neurotoxicity and controversy... i went back to humble 200% B6... i was never prepared to try 5HTP and similar supplements because they are in my opinion not much different from SSRI - thus they make difference but the long-term side effects are too controversial...
iam the kind of guy who is against 5HTP pills, L-Tryptophan pills, SSRI pills, SAMe pills, St. John Wort pills... and lately against B6 pills with doses larger than the 10mg (SAVE UPPER INTAKE declared by The Expert Group on Vitamins and Minerals of the Food Standard Agency UK)
the selected Nature Made Multi For Him Tablet will keep anybody supplied with 100% of key ingredients and if you want you can experiment from there (you can rise B6 to 10mg 500% RDA via solo B6 supplement or you can add more magnesium and iron to rise it to 100% RDA)... but with Nature Made Multi For Him Tablet you have a solid base and thats most important for me... iam not a very big fan of experimenting on your body with "therapeutic" doses (500% - 3000%)...
one last note... if you are outside USA you cant buy the pills directly from manufacturer or amazon.com so i advise to use EBAY.COM... i bought the pills from UK large supplement seller on EBAY.COM
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WOW i literally just now noticed the name of the poster on LONGECITY is "Bigstar20" and the post is from 9 July 2014 - 23 days after starting this thread... he is a bit of HIT-AND-RUN poster... he never returned to the LONGECITY thread after first post...
he seems to be still popping the gargantuous doses of B6, 5HTP, Zinc, Melatonin (for 23 days) and his improvements are "nothing major, but it definitely feels easier to control" but than he suspects he killed his progress with Rhodiola (In animal studies, extracts of rhodiola, seem to enhance the transport of serotonin precursors, tryptophan, and 5-hydroxytryptophan into the brain.) That sounds bit random and illogical. Why would Rhodiola fuck up his 5HTP/B6 progress... i guess its more complicated than Bigstar20 wished...
i guess with all this uncertainity from Bigstar20 i will stick to the 200% RDA B6 and daily MULTIVITAMIN and keep on excercising to beat the PE... the chemical solutions to PE are too wacky for me...
check this post from plasticperson about his chemical coctail to fix PE - 13 ingredients
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Hey guys, good news! Today I had one of my top 3 sex sessions with my girlfriend. Not only because my dick worked better, but due to the way we had sex (a slow yet gradual crescendo). I wasnt so far from a very bad case of premature ejaculation, but I could please both me and my gf. Is there anything more important than that?
So, I could handle intercourse and oral stimulation for longer than usual (maybe a +50% increase, which is nothing great, considering I am a less than a minute guy). However, it made me feel more in control of her sensations...
Truly, I have developed a very good cunilingus style... and that makes a huge difference. What I do is go on slowly, in parts.
First I kiss, bite and lick inside legs, thighs and groin. Then I go for a little intercourse untill I feel PONR.
Then I pull out, and get closer to vagina, but only around it (they will usually start moving their hips in order to make you contact their stuff, but thats exactly what you want! She HAS to get closer to beging for u to lick her inner lips, but you MUST NOT).
After another round of intercourse, after reaching PONR, you finally do what she wants and go down the outside and inner lips, vagina etc.
After proceeding to intercourse and reaching PONR again, you will get back to vagina and finally give attention to the clit.
This must be enough to make her crazy for around 20-30 minutes. She will eventually reach orgasm (while you will almost reach 4 or 5, considering that every time you reach PONR you get very close to orgasm sensations. I actually ejaculated a bit 2 times, but only a but. Point of No Return is not a real thing, you can actually prolong it and, if not, make it last 5 to 15 seconds).
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Here is what I had 3 hours before sex (yes, it is a lot... It took me 8 pills to reach those amounts):
- Vitamin B6 (250mg)
- Zinc (150mg)
- Magnesium (400mg)
- L-Arginine (2000mg)
- Pycnogenol (200mg)
So, I could handle intercourse and oral stimulation for longer than usual (maybe a +50% increase, which is nothing great, considering I am a less than a minute guy). However, it made me feel more in control of her sensations...
Truly, I have developed a very good cunilingus style... and that makes a huge difference. What I do is go on slowly, in parts.
First I kiss, bite and lick inside legs, thighs and groin. Then I go for a little intercourse untill I feel PONR.
Then I pull out, and get closer to vagina, but only around it (they will usually start moving their hips in order to make you contact their stuff, but thats exactly what you want! She HAS to get closer to beging for u to lick her inner lips, but you MUST NOT).
After another round of intercourse, after reaching PONR, you finally do what she wants and go down the outside and inner lips, vagina etc.
After proceeding to intercourse and reaching PONR again, you will get back to vagina and finally give attention to the clit.
This must be enough to make her crazy for around 20-30 minutes. She will eventually reach orgasm (while you will almost reach 4 or 5, considering that every time you reach PONR you get very close to orgasm sensations. I actually ejaculated a bit 2 times, but only a but. Point of No Return is not a real thing, you can actually prolong it and, if not, make it last 5 to 15 seconds).
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Here is what I had 3 hours before sex (yes, it is a lot... It took me 8 pills to reach those amounts):
- Vitamin B6 (250mg)
- Zinc (150mg)
- Magnesium (400mg)
- L-Arginine (2000mg)
- Pycnogenol (200mg)
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Hi MarcusHa
Nice to see your success. In my opinion, you should reduce the dose of b6 and zinc. This is what makes me more horny.
I had sex the other day. Slowly inserted the lubricated penis while lying behind her. Then started slowly thrusting and reached PONR within a minute. Just pulled out and stayed calm for 30-40 seconds or so.
Then started again. But this time, I started rhythmically pushing out the pelvic floor with diaphragm and this worked.
Immediately after each thrust in, I would stop, push the pelvic floor quickly, release and then thrust out and then next thrust in. Continued thrusting like this for 45 minutes. Around 800 thrusts.
The way I push the pelvic floor is very quick. May be it takes only less than a second. But it kind of gives a shock to the pelvic floor and disconnects the arousal build up.
Just wanted to share it!
Nice to see your success. In my opinion, you should reduce the dose of b6 and zinc. This is what makes me more horny.
I had sex the other day. Slowly inserted the lubricated penis while lying behind her. Then started slowly thrusting and reached PONR within a minute. Just pulled out and stayed calm for 30-40 seconds or so.
Then started again. But this time, I started rhythmically pushing out the pelvic floor with diaphragm and this worked.
Immediately after each thrust in, I would stop, push the pelvic floor quickly, release and then thrust out and then next thrust in. Continued thrusting like this for 45 minutes. Around 800 thrusts.
The way I push the pelvic floor is very quick. May be it takes only less than a second. But it kind of gives a shock to the pelvic floor and disconnects the arousal build up.
Just wanted to share it!
That's the problem. My both fathers are meds and they allways told me that you can get intoxicated with an exced of vitamins or minerals...
Wow I have every problem, that you had. Always felt anxious and shy in certain situations, poor short term memory, low energy etc and always knew something wasn't quite right as somedays depending how healthy ive ate i can feel magic and fuction very well. I also suffer from pe and ed, it initially started off with ed but i developed pe after using kegels. Im wondering if i could also have the same problem as you, definately sounds like me anyway. However I also feel I could be slightly physically out of balance or damaged too which certainly wont help the cause.
Pyroluria, from my reading on it, seems to be something that has been designed to reel in those who are going through certain issues and don't know why or what the causes are. I've posted on the points, that i think, make the diagnosis of pyroluria redundant.
PYROLURIA QUESTIONNAIRE
1. Little or no dream recal
2. White spots on finger nails ( Most people with nails over a certain length have these)
3.Poor morning appetite +/- tendency to skip breakfast ( If you have a tendency to skip breakfast you will have poor morning apetite)
4. Morning nausea ( again skipping breakfast can be a factor)
5. Pale skin +/- poor tanning +/- burn easy in sun (this describes 90% of people in countries/ areas where hot weather is a rarity)
6. Sensitivity to bright light ( point 5 can factor in this)
7. Hypersensitive to loud noises
8. Reading difficulties (e.g. dyslexia)
9. Poor ability to cope with stress ( most people wouldn't feel they could cope with stress especially those seeking out advice on stressful situations)
10.Mood swings or temper outbursts
11.Histrionic (dramatic) tendency
12.Argumentative/enjoy argument
13.New situations or changes in routine (i.e., traveling) particularly stressful
14.Much higher capability and alertness in the evening, compared to mornings ( describes most people who wake in the morning and go to bed at night)
15.Poor short term memory
16.Abnormal body fat distribution
17.Belong to an all-girl family with look-alike sisters ( i won't comment)
18.Dry skin
19.Anxiousness (slightly contradictory to point 11 and 12)
20.Reaching puberty later than normal
21.Difficulty digesting, a dislike of protein or a history ofvegetarianism( a dislike of protein?)
22.Tendency toward being a loner and/or avoiding larger groups of people ( again contradictory to above points)
23.Stretch marks on skin
24.Poor sense of smell or taste
25.Feel very uncomfortable with strangers ( reiterating point 19)
26.Frequently experience fatigue
27.A tendency to overreact to tranquilizers, barbiturates, alcohol or other drugs (in other words, a little produces a powerful response)
28.A tendency toward anemia
29.History of mental illness or alcoholism in family
30.Easily upset by criticism (most people are)
31.Sweet smell (fruity odor) to breath or sweat when ill or stressed
32.Prone to acne, eczema or psoriasis
33.A tendency toward feeling anxious, fearful and carrying lifelong inner tension ( again reiterating pointn19)
34.Difficulty recalling past events or people ( short term memory point above)
35.Bouts of depression or nervous exhaustion ( brought on commonly by anxiety)
36.Prone to frequent colds or infections
Thats just what i think, i will say i'm glad the op has cured his problem, but not convinced in the slightest by "pyroluria"
PYROLURIA QUESTIONNAIRE
1. Little or no dream recal
2. White spots on finger nails ( Most people with nails over a certain length have these)
3.Poor morning appetite +/- tendency to skip breakfast ( If you have a tendency to skip breakfast you will have poor morning apetite)
4. Morning nausea ( again skipping breakfast can be a factor)
5. Pale skin +/- poor tanning +/- burn easy in sun (this describes 90% of people in countries/ areas where hot weather is a rarity)
6. Sensitivity to bright light ( point 5 can factor in this)
7. Hypersensitive to loud noises
8. Reading difficulties (e.g. dyslexia)
9. Poor ability to cope with stress ( most people wouldn't feel they could cope with stress especially those seeking out advice on stressful situations)
10.Mood swings or temper outbursts
11.Histrionic (dramatic) tendency
12.Argumentative/enjoy argument
13.New situations or changes in routine (i.e., traveling) particularly stressful
14.Much higher capability and alertness in the evening, compared to mornings ( describes most people who wake in the morning and go to bed at night)
15.Poor short term memory
16.Abnormal body fat distribution
17.Belong to an all-girl family with look-alike sisters ( i won't comment)
18.Dry skin
19.Anxiousness (slightly contradictory to point 11 and 12)
20.Reaching puberty later than normal
21.Difficulty digesting, a dislike of protein or a history ofvegetarianism( a dislike of protein?)
22.Tendency toward being a loner and/or avoiding larger groups of people ( again contradictory to above points)
23.Stretch marks on skin
24.Poor sense of smell or taste
25.Feel very uncomfortable with strangers ( reiterating point 19)
26.Frequently experience fatigue
27.A tendency to overreact to tranquilizers, barbiturates, alcohol or other drugs (in other words, a little produces a powerful response)
28.A tendency toward anemia
29.History of mental illness or alcoholism in family
30.Easily upset by criticism (most people are)
31.Sweet smell (fruity odor) to breath or sweat when ill or stressed
32.Prone to acne, eczema or psoriasis
33.A tendency toward feeling anxious, fearful and carrying lifelong inner tension ( again reiterating pointn19)
34.Difficulty recalling past events or people ( short term memory point above)
35.Bouts of depression or nervous exhaustion ( brought on commonly by anxiety)
36.Prone to frequent colds or infections
Thats just what i think, i will say i'm glad the op has cured his problem, but not convinced in the slightest by "pyroluria"
i've sent the urine sample last week in london and just waiting for the test result. yea i do hope it returns positive as well because it seems the only nutrition/medical method to treat PE instead of doing exercise. i've done edging for a few months. i can handle thrusting with toy quite easily on my own now (but have to make sure I haven't started watching porn before i get erection, otherwise, it would become quick again) but when i actually have sex. nothing change to be honest. And so i do believe it's all about anxiety and so i do think Pyroluria test and its supplement might cure. Anyways I'll keep update you when i see my nutrition consultant and start supplement taking later.
P.S. but the test and consultation fees are quite expensive in london. but it's still worth it to give it a try. :-(
P.S. but the test and consultation fees are quite expensive in london. but it's still worth it to give it a try. :-(
