Hanging 101

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Excellent work Blink!
If I were an instructor and you handed this in as an assignment I would give you an “A.”

I’d like to read what you held back.

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I am considering getting a Bib's Beginners Hanger. I noticed that Bib does not recommend the unpadded hanger for new hangers. Since I have been using an extender for five months, would that qualify me to use an unpadded hanger?
 

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The bib hardcore really isn't necessary (at all) unless you're doing over 20lbs. The hardcore hanger grips your shaft like crazy, but the amount of pressure is huge too. The gel inserts are much more forgiving...

Something else to consider: even if you build up the conditioning for a hardcore bib hanger, if you miss 7x days of hanging in a row (e.g. injury), then you may be forced to go back to the Bib original hanger until you rebuild your conditioning. Right now I find I can't use theraband only anymore (I had an injury that forced me to stop hanging for a little while). Currently I'm using HTW + Theraband again (I had to use an underwrap; my penis can't take the pressure otherwise).

The Bib Hardcore is a good hanger, but I don't think it's necessary for a guy starting out (perhaps its not wise either when you're just starting out!). Later on if you're getting slippage issues (due to weight well beyond 20lbs), then it's worth considering. I think it takes most guys well over a year (at least) to build up beyond 20lbs. If you do only 1x set per day you can quickly reach 20lbs, but then I worry you're only making a stronger penis! (just using more weight of course isn't our goal!).

My personal opinion is you should get a normal bib hanger with Gel Inserts. The kind of lateral forces that hanging exerts on your shaft will most likely feel completely new and different from your extender use. You'll probably progress a bit faster through the early weight too (I started with a pathetic 2.5lbs, but since you've used an extender for a long time, you will probably need more weight to feel a stretch--maybe 3-5lbs).
 

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Hanging 12 lbs right now with a sock hanger as I type this. By far my favorite way to PE!
 

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I think that's the highest weight I've seen anyone use with the sock hanger (so far).

2 5lb hand weights, 2 1lb donut weights. I'm not having an issue with any noosing, I went to 4 folds on the sock and a wide shoestring that I half knot once on the left, then once on the right, once on the bottom, then full knot on the top, trying not to overlap the string. Gives a pretty good spread of pressure.
 

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I've been hanging for about 2 weeks now and I've only got good things to say. My flaccid is so much bigger even on day offs (where I only hang for 1 set of 20 minutes). I'm going to be traveling for work soon and I was wondering if the Bib Hanger and weights were ok to travel with on an airplane. Of course I would be checking it and not taking it carry on. I'm sure the question has been asked before but I tried searching, maybe I'm just using the wrong keywords. Thanks !
 

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Congrats on your flaccid gains! My flaccid has nearly doubled in size from hanging (it's not quite there yet, but I can see it will be soon though!).

About traveling with your hanger: In your suitcase I doubt you'll get any questions at all. If you take it as a carry on, I don't think you'll have issues unless you have a sharp object in there. Many extender users report no problems at all with travel (they take the extender with them and they have no problem with airport security). I think if you're flying domestic you've got no worries at all. International is no problem either except when you're flying into the USA--then the security becomes ridiculous. The bib hanger is a harmless device; I really doubt they will pay much attention to it...

I actually worry more about the weights than the hanger. The hanging device is harmless and I doubt it would attract any attention (fingers crossed). I would try and find a hard plastic case for the bib hanger and put it in your suitcase (just to make sure it doesn't get crushed).

Now, about weights... here's the closest answer I could find.
http://www.chacha.com/question/can-you-take-dumbbells-on-a-plane

Assuming that's a reliable source of information, I think you'll have to pack weight plates,etc in your suitcase...
 
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Wow Blink, you are on top of it. Thanks for gathering that information for me ! I'll definitely take your advice regarding the container. And I guess I just gotta go through the whole fingers crossed thing. It's not like I will ever see those people again even if questions are asked haha.
 

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I guess you might be nervous the first time around (traveling with PE equipment). It's not like you're carrying a motorized dildo in your suitcase--I think most people wouldn't know what the bib hanger is.

I do wonder what extender users say to airport security if they are asked questions... from what I've read though, no one was ever asked what it was.
 

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I just noticed hanging 101 is 7,966 words. That's about 8 to 15 articles worth of information! (when compared to the size of articles in our 'articles' section).

A question came up on this in a PM. I thought I should clarify this for anyone who reads this:

Sample Routine Progression:
(adjust as needed based on how you feel)

Week 01: 3x sets 2lbs Max @ 20m each
Week 02: 4x sets 2lbs Max @ 20m each (only adding sets)
Week 03: 5x sets 2lbs Max @ 20m each
Week 04: 6x sets 2lbs Max @ 20m each (privacy time maximized)
Week 05: 6x sets 3lbs Max @ 20m each (only adding weight)
Week 06: 6x sets 4lbs Max @ 20m each
Week 07: 6x sets 5lbs Max @ 20m each
Week 08: 6x sets 6lbs Max @ 20m each
Week 09: 6x sets 7lbs Max @ 20m each (in each example, this is a typical number of sets per day)
Week 10: 6x sets 8lbs Max @ 20m each (i.e. at this point, the hanger could be doing 6x 20m sets per day)
Week 11: 6x sets 9lbs Max @ 20m each
Week 12: 6x sets 10lbs Max @ 20m each

This example would be a very advanced hanger who is hanging 42x sets per week (that's a dedicated hanger). In other words, during week 03, this hanger was hanging 5x sets per day, and during week 04, the hanger moved up to 6x sets per day. This example would probably represent someone very advanced with a lot of previous PE experience. Most of will not progress this fast with our hanging! The key is fatigue--focus on creating the deformation required to produce gains. Don't obsess about the weight. If you feel fatigue, and you're 'riding the fatigue', then you're doing it right.

I mention in the article that 10 hours per week is optimal for long term gains. I have seen guys make great gains hanging just 1x set per day. However, the benefits from a routine like that will plateau much sooner than a guy who hangs 30x sets per week.

Here's a few examples of how someone might reach 30x sets per week (10 hours of hangtime):

Example 1 (someone with very little time):
mon 4x sets
tues 4x sets
wed 5x sets (notice an extra set here)
thurs 4x sets
fri 4x sets
sat 5x sets (notice an extra set here)
sun 4x sets (this would result in 30x hanging sets, exactly 10 hours)

Example 2 (someone who has 1 day where they can't get many sets)
mon 5x sets
tues 5x sets
wed 5x sets
thurs 5x sets
fri 5x sets
sat 5x sets
sun 1x set (this would result in 30x hanging sets, exactly 10 hours)

Example 3 (someone with no privacy on weekends)
mon 6x sets
tues 6x sets
wed 6x sets
thurs 6x sets
fri 6x sets
sat 1x sets
sun 1x set (this would result in 32x hanging sets, 10.66 hours)
 

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How do I know when I need to add weight? I only have time for 3 sets a day. At first 5lbs was heavy. Then after time I hardly noticed it. I went to 10lbs, it fatigued me quickly. I was doing 10, and dropping from 10 to 5 on the 2nd and 3rd sets when it was too much to take. Now I am at 10lbs, sometimes 12, and able to walk around. It's getting to the point where it doesn't feel heavy at all again. Does that again mean it's time to add weight since I cannot add sets? Or can you stay where you don't feel the pull as much for a while?
 

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add weight if you can't reach fatigue within the first 2x sets. you'll know you've reached fatigue when you feel the need to drop the weight.

continue dropping weight as needed to avoid pain (sharp pain is bad).

i.e. this all comes back to fatigue-- you only need as much weight as is required to reach fatigue. using less weight means less injury risk (vs using much more weight than needed to reach fatigue). Ideally you will reach fatigue during the first 20 minutes. If you don't, it shouldn't be hard to reach fatigue during the second set. It's not often, but sometimes I don't reach fatigue until the 3rd set--this is an indicator I didn't use as much weight as I should have.

when you 'ride the fatigue' it will probably wear you down. I find my max weight often falls and doesn't go back up for weeks at a time (when I 'ride the fatigue'. That's good if that happens; at least according to Bib, and based on my experience as well, this seems to be the proper way to do things ;)
 

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Yo Blink,

I was wondering, I really want to work on some girth alongside this hanging. Do you think regular and V jelqs would be detrimental, plus Uli's. They aren't "advanced", I just came here looking for girth but I think base girth could help me out a lot with hanging.
 

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Bib advises against combining anything with hanging. My attempts to combine hanging with anything else have not worked out well.

Hanging is the most intense length exercise; adding things to it will make your hanging less effective since if you're hanging correctly, your tissues will be borderline near injury at times. Adding more and more things to a routine is not the answer; don't be greedy, and remember, sometimes less is more.

If you want both length and midshaft girth, I recommend a manual routine.
 

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13 lbs with a sock hanger.. needed to add weight since I can only do 3 sets a day tops. Starting to burn the skin again a little bit.. but nothing terribly uncomfortable.
 

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I want to start hanging. I tried the Sock Hanger but since Im uncut, it kept on slipping off once i got up to 3lbs. What can I do so that it wont slip off? Pull skin back? Talcum powder? Therabands? I also read that Muzzle Hanger would be better for uncut people? Is that true? I want to get the Bib Starter, is it recommended for Uncut people? thanks
 

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I want to start hanging. I tried the Sock Hanger but since Im uncut, it kept on slipping off once i got up to 3lbs. What can I do so that it wont slip off? Pull skin back? Talcum powder? Therabands? I also read that Muzzle Hanger would be better for uncut people? Is that true? I want to get the Bib Starter, is it recommended for Uncut people? thanks
I am cut, but I also just started with the Sock Hanger and had serious slipping problems. I recently read in one of the "making a hanger" threads that a member was using a cable clamp over wrapping. Today, I wrapped my shaft with self sticking ACE type bandage, placed the sock fold over the wrap, and tightened the clamp over the sock fold. I hung 7.5 lbs for 20 minutes. Other than a slight doughnut, no problems. My NBP flaccid stretched length is less than 5" so I don't have much to work with so I think there was slight slippage forcing my remaining foreskin to pucker under pressure. Next time I will try to clamp closer to the base of my shaft which should prevent the doughnut. If it works, it will save me $100 on buying the BIB. I think the wrap prevents a lot of the slipping.
 

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Without preaching too much. The Bib is the best hanger I've ever used (compared to the muzzle). I figured out how to use it in a matter on minutes and the traction as well as support that it provides is priceless and amazing. The muzzle is good if you're going to hang with weights less than 20 lbs in my opinion. Higher weights require a solid hanger that can support the weight as well as protect your penis. Just my two cents.

Theraband is a good way to get traction on a hanger as well as using What A Grip.

Also using What A Grip with strips of leather chamois towel is a good way to get traction as well.