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Amiok, you have an AVERAGE Penis, which means it will be nearly indistinguishable from about 66% of guys penises for the average woman. Actually, if you look at the data closely you are larger than more than 50% of the guys out there. The Median BPEL is 5.65" and Median Girth is 4.67". You surpass each of these, which means you are larger than OVER 50% of men in BOTH categories which means you are on the high end of average. That is the honest truth. Your penis is NOT small, but if that is how you perceive it and perceive that women NEED a large penis to be satisfied then the problem lies about 3' higher than your penis. A little self confidence can go along way.

If you are worried about sending a pic of your shlong, hell take the picture from your hip and make sure it is zoomed in, a girl will think an average penis is huge. Tink is right, seeing a confident man displaying a hard cock is far more important to a girl than a massive penis.

On to the subject of massive penises, they aren't always desirable to a woman. My current GF has been with 6 men, 4 of which used Magnum condoms(talk about shooting the natural distribution in the foot), one of which was significantly larger than me, especially in girth(6"+), reaching the huge range. My GF hated having sex with him and rarely did, oh and it was too large for her to do oral on as well, meaning the guy mostly got handjobs. That doesn't sound very desirable now does it. I know all of this and I will be honest it made me self conscious and one of the reasons I started PEing, but the size of your dick isn't the most important aspect to a woman. It took me a while to realize this TBH. I'm the only guy that has been able to give her consistent vaginal orgasms, in fact she told me that I probably wouldn't be able to give her one without extra stimulation or oral. We love each other immensely and have the best sex either of us has ever had. Hell, I'll likely marry this girl. And none of this would have happened if A. Didn't work up the courage to ask her out, and she is a rather unapproachable woman! B. Been confident while dating her, taking the initiative and being sweet to her. C. Realized that a woman's sexual experience has less to do with the size of your penis or how fast you thrust, or your stamina. For a woman the connection between you two can mean much much more. Pay attention to her pleasure and you will accomplish much more than jackhammering away with a monster cock. D. Started to get over my own insecurities as they are the single most detrimental thing to my life.

Amiok, there is nothing stopping you from living a fruitful orgasm filled life but you. You are average, just like most of the guys out there and there is nothing stopping you. Any woman worth pursuing isn't going to reject you for the size of your penis. Hell, most women won't. In High School there was a player that got more ass than just about anyone else(in a 2000+ student, 3 grade school), and he has a SMALL penis. What he had was confidence, and it makes all of the difference.

Take a good look inside and really see where these insecurities have taken hold. Once you can and work through them, nothing will stop you.
 

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Tink: I meant if a girl wants a pic of your dick, they are gonna want something to make them gasp.

Steve: Eh, not far off buddy lol.

Kungfu: I can never change the way I think about having a pathetic dick man. And no I don't want a religious freak, what I meant there is that she would not know I was small. And yea I think too little of the group of people who have told me I'm sh*t for oh I don't know 10 years? Always too fat, too nice, ugly, and had to hear how awesome big dicks are. From the horses mouths. Then I have to finally get laid and see during sex the girl's eyes change from "god fuck me" to "wow when is this over". And then, even though I made her squirm with my fingers, she all of a sudden isn't interested. Yea.

Spanky: My self worth is 0. And as far as pussy I have 4 girls I could fuck right now, 1 not realistically as she lives very far away, so it could be coming quickly. But yea man how can you change when your nightmares come true?
 

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I believe the blanket statement " size doesn't matter" is not accurate. It does matter but not to the extent that some of us may think. I.E. - Its mainly a factor if it is too small or too large. Another member here who says he has been with a lot of women put it this way and it sounds to be a reasonable assumption: 10% of women prefer below average, 60% prefer average to slightly above average but not big, 30% prefer far above average to big and a very small percentage prefer huge. This is preference not what is required for good sex. I would prefer my wifes breasts to be a little smaller but does it matter that much? No.

I do agree with the others when they say its not a big factor when choosing a life partner. I can honestly say that short of me having micro penis my size would not have meant a dam thing to my wife. If she wasn't a virgin would have it mattered? I don't know but probably not. Sex is not everything. You may ask then why am I trying to make mine bigger then? Because I honestly think the sex will possibly be better if I am bigger. Hopefully im not sounding inconsistent with my past rhetoric but I do have my moments of sanity.
 

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Yea.

Slightly off topic. The girl who took my virginity just started talking to me.
 

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amiok... send them a pic of someone else's if it bothers you that much! Or a picture of the washington monument or something. lol. Look, if a girl seeing you is that shallow that she genuinely won't bother without a cock pic, then who cares if you take the piss, she's a moron. It's up to you whether you give that girl the time she doesn't deserve.

You're getting (as usual) a *lot* of good advice here mate, so take it on board. Stop the self pity NOW, cos we all know, as do you, that you're just fine.
 
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Tink: I meant if a girl wants a pic of your dick, they are gonna want something to make them gasp.

Steve: Eh, not far off buddy lol.

Kungfu: I can never change the way I think about having a pathetic dick man. And no I don't want a religious freak, what I meant there is that she would not know I was small. And yea I think too little of the group of people who have told me I'm sh*t for oh I don't know 10 years? Always too fat, too nice, ugly, and had to hear how awesome big dicks are. From the horses mouths. Then I have to finally get laid and see during sex the girl's eyes change from "god fuck me" to "wow when is this over". And then, even though I made her squirm with my fingers, she all of a sudden isn't interested. Yea.

Spanky: My self worth is 0. And as far as pussy I have 4 girls I could fuck right now, 1 not realistically as she lives very far away, so it could be coming quickly. But yea man how can you change when your nightmares come true?

I think your just having one of those days. God knows I have had them.
 

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Amiok,

The problem isn't your dick, it isn't getting laid. It's not going to get solved by zooming into your dick when you take a photo (sorry, I know you didn't say that...but it just made me laugh). And you didn't find it by losing your virginity (which I could have told you beforehand).

Your problem is how you view yourself. You already know this. Me and everyone else in this board could tell you how you're better than you think you are but it won't mean a damn thing unless you believe it for yourself. What you needed was a reason to feel better about yourself. That is why you came here...to get a bigger dick...because you felt it would make you a better person and you would have something to be proud of. But don't you see....even if you got that bigger dick..it wouldn't have changed things. It might for a little while but you can't cover up the root of the problem. And that is your self image. Not your dick. You just focused on your penis because, as a man, you've been taught, through society and chance, meaningless encounters, that the measure of a man is through the size of his dick. And it's utter bs.

You're going through a downward spiral now so be very careful. What i mean is, you're having sex now and that is going to complicate things and make it worse.

I'm going to say something that some people may not like (including yourself) but I would strongly recommend leaving these boards. Not because of the people on here...there are actually some very sensible and bright people here with a ton of valuable experiences and information to share...but because every time you read about some newbie here who posts about the gains they got after two minutes of PE and how they just made a porn star scream out in passion and pain.....it's gonna get you down even more.

You need time to reflect on yourself on who you are and who you want to be and how to get there. Don't worry about girls, but go out and make some REAL friends. Stop PEing. Don't even think about it. You don't need it. Get in the weight room, focus on your career, listen to music, play video games and eat pizza for hours and hours (well...maybe not too much pizza ;)). Learn to the love the time you have by yourself. If you can be happy with yourself then you can make someone else happy as well.

You can't see it now, but you will be surprised at how everything just starts to fall into place with nothing but a positive attitude.
 
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Girls don't have dicks on their minds? How come they ask me for a pic then? I have been asked for a pic twice in the past week. Two different girls.


Size matters. Listen I know I can make a girl moan like all hell, I have done it, but I can't fill them up and most want that.

Wrong a hard dick is more important :)
 

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Amiok- Always had sympathy for you because I am in your same boat, although there are difference sources of anxiety for both of us.

But one thing I try to never do is get into a woman's mind like you try to do with your "all women want to feel completely filled up or want to get pictures of 9x6 dicks."

lol, you know how ridiculous and naive you sound? Really, come on man. Have some dignity and perspective. You don't know what they are thinking. What women are thinking in general or this specific girl, you have no idea. Most of us don't, but there are good representations here telling you that you are way off base. Right from the horses mouth. And they make sense. You still don't get it. After all these months. That the man attached to the penis is 1000 times more important than the penis. They fall in love or want to know the guy and his heart and personality before clothes even come close to coming off. You make it sound like that during first time sex, they're going to break out the ruler and measuring tape and start sizing you up.

If it's really only your penis holding you back (and it seems it is), I really feel bad for you, especially considering you are totally average and fine in regards to that. Hopefully it is nothing deeper, but really listen to some of this advice that others have given you.


Take a few days off and freshen up your outlook if you can. Perhaps you shouldn't even be in the game if you still have no pride in yourself because you are wasting your time and theirs. Unfortunately, it solves nothing to come back on here every few days just circling around your issues again. Get some new hobbies or take your academics more seriously or something so you can grasp onto something a little more positive. I've been in your shoes and doing this does nothing. Yeah, you get some attention and people care for a little while which is great and then it gets old, especially when it becomes obvious that you aren't buying into anything. It's not fair to the people trying to help you either, BTW. Before you know it you are a few years older and have nothing to show for it..Just a bunch of wasted advice and potential and a person who continues to do nothing but feel sorry for himself.

Time to start getting serious and to stop rehashing the same sh*t over and over again and start doing some things for yourself.
 
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Wow. Check out this horoscope

Does it ever occur to you that your impressions of people are a little bit off the mark? Right now, you need to get a second opinion from someone you trust before you pass a verdict on someone whose actions have left you unimpressed. You're in a phase of your life where it's a bit too easy to project your fears about yourself onto other people -- and that's not good. You need a third party to give you a reality check and keep you from making an incorrect assumption.
 

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Wow. Check out this horoscope

Does it ever occur to you that your impressions of people are a little bit off the mark? Right now, you need to get a second opinion from someone you trust before you pass a verdict on someone whose actions have left you unimpressed. You're in a phase of your life where it's a bit too easy to project your fears about yourself onto other people -- and that's not good. You need a third party to give you a reality check and keep you from making an incorrect assumption.

I don't believe in horoscopes but I remember I had one strikingly similar to my situation a couple months back but if it's a daily horoscope they are going to be right at least one day of the 365 lol.

But don't take that off a horoscope, take it off the people who said it in this thread!
 

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I don't believe in horoscopes but I remember I had one strikingly similar to my situation a couple months back but if it's a daily horoscope they are going to be right at least one day of the 365 lol.

But don't take that off a horoscope, take it off the people who said it in this thread!

I know that's why I posted it :eek:
 

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Amiok - I give you great credit for having your GF and sex experience a few months ago. It was great to hear and I was happy for you. And I cannot fault you on lack of confidence since a lot suffer from that and it is too bad but not a crime. As I noted, I do as well, although it doesn't render me useless to give you a wake-up call either.

What bothers me are your concerns in terms of putting yourself in the lady's mind and such-- goes to show what a long way you have to go here. And the fact that you place so much on size and so little on you is alarming, especially considering the priorities of an average normal woman. I guess it paints a shallow and unrealistic picture of the girl as well in your mind.

Have you ever thought about those with a micro penis? Or an actual below average guy of just a couple of inches hard? Maybe it will at least give some perspective. I feel down on myself and then I try to remember that I'm in the greatest country in the world living a pretty damn good life while those in this country as well as others are starving or being beaten daily or killed because of genocide, war, etc, etc. That may not go a long way, but it may help you at least start feeling some pride and being thankful for something.

Frankly, all the advice here will do little for you. This is something you need to figure out on your own. And while the thoughts of others are comforting and of course it constitutes support, you and I both know it is not really helping your main issues. Just goes to show with your camera concerns, etc. This thread is like a broken record going over and over again and once again it seems to be serving little to your confidence.

I had a similar thing going at another message board and while we are obviously different, the same tune to this thread kept going. And while the people were great and helpful, I used little or took in little of it. I mean no offense, but everything I said in my previous post is true. I know from experience.
 

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gonna tell ya something...

girls want to see penises of guys they like. Not for anything other than they want to make their bodies jiggle and their mouths water.

Doesn't matter how big it is, she just wants to see it! it's good you keep it away but she's not going to judge you because it's "small" to you.

As tinkerbell said, she wants to see it HARD, doesn't matter about size. the fact that it's hard, and that SHE made it hard, makes her all mushy inside.

We just like to see it vag or them naked, doesn't matter if they're wet or not... that's why we don't have an idea what they're thinking. They get off on being thought attractive based on your penis' response to them... it's a little more complicated than just looking at a penis and getting turned on. They want to know that penis is hard for them, that turns them on more than anything :)


All that said, IF you want to send a pic (not saying you have to or should because you need to make sure YOU'RE comfortable)... put it in the most flattering angles you can because if you don't get it from good positions, it'll look soft/weak. and thus tell her that she's not really that pretty to you.
 
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Hey man check out my new album for an AWESOME angle.

Actually go to my profile and scroll down to the albums and you can compare side by side. I took that pic because of TjTs porn angle album. Wanted to see what I could do with it.
 
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Wow thats right i don't have a vagina.. not a girl here.. nope not at all...Stop insulting me, I have a better idea about what girls are looking for then you do.

As a girl I am not looking for a big huge fucking cock when i am interested in a guy in real life or online.. i am looking for a hard cock, a guy who is turned on by me and is horny.. size doesn't come into it.

I also have a vagina and I agree with Tink! It's not about the size, but the fact that it's hard because you've been thinking of me(female) and that, in turn, is a major turn on for me!

Reps to you Tink:)
 

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Interesting perspective somebodyelse. Thanks!
 

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That's good to know. Guys can never read women on what they're thinking. All the woman has to do is look down to see what the guy has on his mind. This clears up a few things I had questions on. Thanks!
 

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That's good to know. Guys can never read women on what they're thinking. All the woman has to do is look down to see what the guy has on his mind. This clears up a few things I had questions on. Thanks!

Now, granted, for it to be a turn on for me, we have to have an emotional connection/relationship. Just some random guy, grinning at me, with a hard on is a little scary. Just saying:)
 

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i am looking for a hard cock, a guy who is turned on by me and is horny.. size doesn't come into it.

I'm turned on and horny right now.

I have picture proof and everything!

On a serious note. Amoik, you're wrong. That's the first thing you have to realize. You don't know women, and with having as little experience as I've read you talk about having, how can you assume you do?

Listen to what these people are telling you and attempt to truly absorb it into your being.

It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
(I feel like Robin Williams in Good Will Hunting)
It doesn't matter.

The sooner you realize that, the sooner you'll stop caring and the moment you truly stop caring is the moment you will start making headway in your love life - and when you start doing that it will affirm what everyone has been saying to you, it doesn't matter.

What DOES matter is your apparent self loathing. When I see posts made by you, I stop and read them because a lot of the times you have interesting or funny things to say, but sometimes you have these posts and I wish I could just slap you around a little and get you to realize what I have.

Your size only affects you.
 
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