Gator's Progress Thread. W/Pictures.

[NP97]

I just added that internal stretch to my workout. Make sure you warm up the underside. Get the grundle good and warm. I really felt it... Really like that stretch.

 

[Gyrta]

Hey! Good job man!
What's an internal stretch? Benefits?

 

[JohnSmith011]

Hey gator. Good to see you motivated again! I'm glad i could help you with you p.e. journey. I definatly think you have a good plan of attack to increase your tunica volume. But the way i view more advanced stretches is in this light. I believe that the basic stretches and a stretches are all you really need. You can pump out as much length as possible from these stretches and then when you stop growing move into other stretches that will have a different impact on your unit. If you use your excersizes like this theortically you might be able to achieve greater length than you could have if you had gone with the more advanced stretches while your basic stretches still had some extra length to yield. This is just my take on stretches i could be completley off base with this but just my basic + a stretches have already added 3/4'' to my length as well as my jelqs but i currently sit at 7 1/4'' bpel just frm the basics. So you might consider just sticking with your basics until they stop yeilding gains.

 

[Gator]

12/11/09: OFF
12/12/09: (AM) 05 min. Warmup ♦♦ 15 min. Stretching ♦♦♦♦ (PM) 10 min. Warmup ♦♦ 23 min. Stretching ♦♦ 100 reps. NJC Jelqs
12/13/09: (AM) 05 min. Warmup ♦♦ 05 min. Stretching ♦♦♦♦ (PM) 10 min. Warmup ♦♦ 23 min. Stretching ♦♦ 100 reps. NJC Jelqs
12/14/09: (AM) 05 min. Warmup ♦♦ 05 min. Stretching ♦♦♦♦ (PM) OFF - Simply put, my penis is tired and needs rest.

 

[Gator]

Hey gator. Good to see you motivated again! I'm glad i could help you with you p.e. journey. I definatly think you have a good plan of attack to increase your tunica volume. But the way i view more advanced stretches is in this light. I believe that the basic stretches and a stretches are all you really need. You can pump out as much length as possible from these stretches and then when you stop growing move into other stretches that will have a different impact on your unit. If you use your excersizes like this theortically you might be able to achieve greater length than you could have if you had gone with the more advanced stretches while your basic stretches still had some extra length to yield. This is just my take on stretches i could be completley off base with this but just my basic + a stretches have already added 3/4'' to my length as well as my jelqs but i currently sit at 7 1/4'' bpel just frm the basics. So you might consider just sticking with your basics until they stop yeilding gains.

Thanks for the continuing assistance John. I really do appreciate it. You certainly do have a big pecker now and I think it's due to your knowledge and dedication. I admire that. I think the internal stretches hit the tunica more so I want to make sure I get a nice stretch hitting both the ligs and the tunica. I'll keep them to a minimum though. My ligs have been getting quite the workout the past 2.5 days. My penis is tired - I was unable to get stretching in tonight because of it. Things needed a break. I just want to make sure I'm doing ENOUGH, you know what I mean?

 

[Gator]

Hey! Good job man!
What's an internal stretch? Benefits?

Internal stretches pull out the hidden penis. They also seemingly target the tunica very directly. Very good.

 

[JohnSmith011]

Thanks for the continuing assistance John. I really do appreciate it. You certainly do have a big pecker now and I think it's due to your knowledge and dedication. I admire that. I think the internal stretches hit the tunica more so I want to make sure I get a nice stretch hitting both the ligs and the tunica. I'll keep them to a minimum though. My ligs have been getting quite the workout the past 2.5 days. My penis is tired - I was unable to get stretching in tonight because of it. Things needed a break. I just want to make sure I'm doing ENOUGH, you know what I mean?

No problem man. But yea keep up those internal stretches if you feel they are doing the job. Also just remeber you dont want to over work! so don't be so eagerto stretch out your tunica that you end up over working that will just set you back to square one you know. Dont ever be afraid of an extra day of i consider them growing days. Like every 4th to 5th p.e. work out ill just take an extra day off. It just gives your unit a little bounce back time and in the long run definatly pays off in my opinion. You aer defiantly doing enough. There is a saying in p.e. that i pretty much base a lot of my work outs on or i did in the beginning anyway, until i was condition. It goes " less is better in p.e." very good advice from JP i think. Now you are defiantly doing what is going to be needed to stretch that bad boy out so just remeber keep restin him up and dont limit your gains if you dont have to ; )

 

[RockofFox]

Nice log Gator, keep it consistent, your going well, just keep it up buddy.

 

[Gator]

Nice log Gator, keep it consistent, your going well, just keep it up buddy.

Thank you sir!

 

[Gator]

No problem man. But yea keep up those internal stretches if you feel they are doing the job. Also just remeber you dont want to over work! so don't be so eagerto stretch out your tunica that you end up over working that will just set you back to square one you know. Dont ever be afraid of an extra day of i consider them growing days. Like every 4th to 5th p.e. work out ill just take an extra day off. It just gives your unit a little bounce back time and in the long run definatly pays off in my opinion. You aer defiantly doing enough. There is a saying in p.e. that i pretty much base a lot of my work outs on or i did in the beginning anyway, until i was condition. It goes " less is better in p.e." very good advice from JP i think. Now you are defiantly doing what is going to be needed to stretch that bad boy out so just remeber keep restin him up and dont limit your gains if you dont have to ; )

Again, I think you are right John. I certainly needed the rest day and I feel refreshed today. You know, I might be overworking, but my dick doesn't really tell me that. Like I've said before, I think my dick has an iron plate in it. It seems absolutely impervious to anything I throw at it. The only negative P.I. that I have ever really experienced is pain and discomfort from a death grip in stretching. That's really it. Fatigue, yeah I've had that but I don't really consider that to be negative P.I. - more like just a result of a series of good quality workouts. That's why I've really tried to push things to the limit; I want to find out what that limit is, if I even have one. After 1500 jelqs, I probably could do another 3000. It's just something that irks me a little. But I'm really trying to stay out of that mindset right now - because MOST people gain without doing a "beat the fucking sh*t out of my dick" routine. IE. you, PEsG, KP, and many others.

I remember this:

MY PE VICES

I’ve never given a routine long enough to know if it was really working or not.
I intensify at a rate that would hardly be considered “gradual.”
I often mistake myself for being advanced in the PE world.
I place too little emphasis on quality.
I habitually get frustrated and irritated for no apparent reason.
I don’t properly listen to my penis when it speaks to me.
I measure entirely too often and I routinely expect gains every time.
I expect to gain at the same rate as or better than other people.
I frequently cross the line between focusing and obsessing.
I take my improved EQ, larger flaccid and increased stamina for granted.
I surrender too easily.

I think those two bolds are both quickly becoming a problem.

I want to get into a groove where I do my PE without thinking too much about it. I think that's the ultimate mode to be in. I think PEsG was in that for his first year and he gained like a god damn madman, sort of like John. PE needs to be a groove, not a task. It needs to be groooooooovy. I need to work on that aspect.

 

[NP97]

Way I see it, if you are forcing yourself to do PE on a day where you really don't feel like it your workout will be poop. Don't want to be in the mindset that you need to do this, rather you want to because you enjoy it. Always helps me to keep my goals in mind while I'm doing my routine. Helps me stay motivated.

I have one question for you, doing that many jelqs, how slowly are you jelqing? And are you using much lube or just a little?

 

[Gator]

Way I see it, if you are forcing yourself to do PE on a day where you really don't feel like it your workout will be poop. Don't want to be in the mindset that you need to do this, rather you want to because you enjoy it. Always helps me to keep my goals in mind while I'm doing my routine. Helps me stay motivated.

I have one question for you, doing that many jelqs, how slowly are you jelqing? And are you using much lube or just a little?

Well, goals are one of my problems. Since I have gained virtually nothing in 10.5 months of (rather inconsistent) PE, my goals have changed from actual numbers to "I just want to gain something." Maybe I need to come up with some hard numbers to actual set myself on. "Gaining something" just sounds desperate.

And I'm assuming you are talking about the 1500 jelq marathon? That only happened once - and I was jelqing with minimal lube and with about 2-3 second strokes. The whole thing probably took me an hour or so to do...Maybe a little less. Can you say "ouchie!". Nope - I had no negative P.I.s from the experience. That's actually when I threw in the towell the last time. I figured that if my dick couldn't give me some indication after an hour of continuous, medium pressure jelqing, that my dick was completely indestructible. I think that if I had done another night of that, I would have noticed something rather negative.

 

[Gator]

The only obvious lacking in my PE for the past 10 months, other than consistency, has been STRETCHING. I'm inclined to believe that a combination of stretching and consistency is the key to me gaining. My flaccid has grown about 1/2" in 4 days of good stretching. Plus, I'm starting to get rib-like features towards the base of my penis - and I've read that these mean your tunica is being stretched-out very well. THAT is a good sign to me, because my BPFSL and my BPEL are only about 1/8" apart.

 

[JohnSmith011]

The only obvious lacking in my PE for the past 10 months, other than consistency, has been STRETCHING. I'm inclined to believe that a combination of stretching and consistency is the key to me gaining. My flaccid has grown about 1/2" in 4 days of good stretching. Plus, I'm starting to get rib-like features towards the base of my penis - and I've read that these mean your tunica is being stretched-out very well. THAT is a good sign to me, because my BPFSL and my BPEL are only about 1/8" apart.

Very nice gator! those ribs are an excellent sign I remeber when i saw my first ones and i was scared but JP said that is your tunica being stretched out so there is nothing to worry about. Ribs are a very good sign that the tunica is expanding so what you are doing is obviously working! When i first noticed ribs on my unit they were tword the middle but now i have 3-4 on either side so im still stretching it out! Also obviously you have a super dick gator who can take a lot of punishment. So if he can take it just keep up what your doing as long as there is no negative p.i.s i just wanted to warn you, in the earlier post because i dont want to see you start gaining and then hit a road block you know. But even if you do dont give up! im sure you will succeed especially with this new routine. Also having to do with your attitude twords p.e. I think after you see maybe even a 1/8'' bpel gain your attitude will drastically change. Right now i think you see it as taxing and kind of pointless since you havent seen gains. But after you see that first length gain your mentality will change. Youll be like holy sh*t i did it. and then youll be off to the races to get your p.e. in everyday because you know what your doing is working. Now when i do p.e. i just think of it as another part of my day. It is my routine just like going to class in the morning. Just something i must do to get my day done. Also one last word of adivice that i have used throughout my whole p.e. journey thus far. Take every gain for what its worth even if it is only 1/16th inch it is still a gain! These small gains will eventually lead you to large ones so just keep that in mind. P.e. is baby steps. Just take it one day at a time one gain at a time and before you know it your gains will add up and youll be like holy sh*t whose dick is that! lol =P

 

[dmaxon]

Maybe just a suggestion or two from a new member but long time PE'er. Don't measure so often. Just do the routine you choose (hopefully modeled after some mentioned on this site) diligently and consistently. Pay more attention to how you feel and how your penis feels and looks. I have trouble with these precise measurements some people report here. The head of my penis can grow visably when I just contract the PC muscle. A really hard "piss hardon" can be much bigger in appearance than a "normal erection". Go with less subjective means of dertermining progress.

 

[Gator]

Maybe just a suggestion or two from a new member but long time PE'er. Don't measure so often. Just do the routine you choose (hopefully modeled after some mentioned on this site) diligently and consistently. Pay more attention to how you feel and how your penis feels and looks. I have trouble with these precise measurements some people report here. The head of my penis can grow visably when I just contract the PC muscle. A really hard "piss hardon" can be much bigger in appearance than a "normal erection". Go with less subjective means of dertermining progress.

I'm actually refusing to measure for a few months. Overmeasuring causes me to get "excited."

 

[Gator]

Very nice gator! those ribs are an excellent sign I remeber when i saw my first ones and i was scared but JP said that is your tunica being stretched out so there is nothing to worry about. Ribs are a very good sign that the tunica is expanding so what you are doing is obviously working! When i first noticed ribs on my unit they were tword the middle but now i have 3-4 on either side so im still stretching it out! Also obviously you have a super dick gator who can take a lot of punishment. So if he can take it just keep up what your doing as long as there is no negative p.i.s i just wanted to warn you, in the earlier post because i dont want to see you start gaining and then hit a road block you know. But even if you do dont give up! im sure you will succeed especially with this new routine. Also having to do with your attitude twords p.e. I think after you see maybe even a 1/8'' bpel gain your attitude will drastically change. Right now i think you see it as taxing and kind of pointless since you havent seen gains. But after you see that first length gain your mentality will change. Youll be like holy sh*t i did it. and then youll be off to the races to get your p.e. in everyday because you know what your doing is working. Now when i do p.e. i just think of it as another part of my day. It is my routine just like going to class in the morning. Just something i must do to get my day done. Also one last word of adivice that i have used throughout my whole p.e. journey thus far. Take every gain for what its worth even if it is only 1/16th inch it is still a gain! These small gains will eventually lead you to large ones so just keep that in mind. P.e. is baby steps. Just take it one day at a time one gain at a time and before you know it your gains will add up and youll be like holy sh*t whose dick is that! lol =P

John - Damn I like you...

 

[Gator]

My typical holiday season FLU has arrived. I wake up this morning, cold sweat, headache, sore throat, fever of 102°, and a feeling probably similar to that of being run over by a fully loaded freight train. However, I am still going to be doing my PE. I can lay in bed at night feeling like sh*t and still stretch my wanker because I think I am making some good progress. "Every day that you don't practice is one day longer before you achieve greatness."

 

[Gator]

Someone said I needed goals, especially a more hard goal than "get bigger." So, I have those now. I know my girth is pathetic and it needs attention, but I've also noticed that people with smaller girths seem to be able to gain length easier. I know this isn't universal, but it seems to be the case. So, I'm definitely focusing on length for the next 4-5 months. I'm going to try and squeeze everything I can out of my ligs and tunica. Once I get to 7.00" BPEL length, I will be quite satisfied and then I'll switch to girth work. I'll likely clamp, pump, and jelq my little Gator heart out. But for now, my routine will stay true to what I've been doing. Basically just heavy stretching and good quality jelqing. Although I will in all likelihood get some girth gains as well. We will see!

 

[Gator]

"So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past."

God I have been seeing some great positives lately!