I guess my best way to cure Pre-E would be becoming MMO. After reading these articles, on the MMO stuff, i believe this is how i last the longest with women. Whenever i get close to PONR whether its couple minutes, early, or a while, when i feel myself get to a 9.9 on the arousal scale, i hard kegal. sometime's it'll feel so great, and no semen comes out, that I do think I know how to DO. there have been lots of times where i do a partial or where my timing is bad, and i kegal but i tottaly lose my erection and i feel like its retrograde? where it goes back into your semen. these are the worst during sex because i can't get it back up at all. now partial i can get it back up, but the sexual drive isnt there as much. Need more feedback from anyone else who has become MMO. I also need to read up on more material and start a MMO log.