Dr.adams
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Ok...'cause I was seriously going to cry if you were going to make me feel old and I'm not even old enough to rent a car. I'll save my mid-life crisis for another week.
its not that I dont want to listen to people that are "older and wiser" then me its that 600 bux isnt a huge risk to me like who cares if im out 600 bux its not going to make or brake me but if i dont do this im going to wonder my whole life what could of been , witch is better then listening to all the skeptics saying they know better ... gaurnteed the first guy that tried jelqing got laughed at and was told hes going to mess up his penis , so just becasue you guys are skeptical doesnt mean it wont work. If it was 6000 instead of 600 I would be skeptical to be really what is 600$ a night out or 2 weeks in gas for my car , so to be investing in a chance to have a bigger penis is well worth the risk for me.
It's not skepticism, it's facts that it will not work. If it did, we'd all be getting those injections.
It doesn't matter which shot you get injected into your penis, there isn't a thing out there that could be injected into the penis and make it grow. What you're having injected into the penis will not target the smooth tissue, veins, and ligaments and make them all grow, all while not getting into the blood stream and not causing the same to happen throughout the rest of your body.
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The only way you can successfully have a chemical pe is through a peptides injection that unlocks the puberty cycle or genetically alters the penis growth, many people just believe it's dht or test that grows in adolescents but it's a certain signal that unlocks the growth and that's what scientists need to find out. but i doubt this would be looked into til 10 years later
The only way you can successfully have a chemical pe is through a peptides injection that unlocks the puberty cycle or genetically alters the penis growth, many people just believe it's dht or test that grows in adolescents but it's a certain signal that unlocks the growth and that's what scientists need to find out. but i doubt this would be looked into til 10 years later
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I normally don't look at the blogs...not that they're not helpful...just takes too much of my energy to look at the negative comments. Interesting--and saddening--that a few members of a group that promotes physical therapies that are mostly unproven in the scientific literature (for penis growth) seems aggressively closed minded to the idea that growth factors proven to be helpful in other parts of the body accelerate the results of those physical therapies discussed within the group.
I'm not really offended so much--I expected anger from some, since a new idea is to the mind what a foreign protein is to the body--immediately attacked. But, I have been surprised to see the aggressively negative attitude to be MORE common among the penis forums than among my physician colleagues.
Anyway, just pulled up the first post that popped up to announce a few things:
1. As for "if it works, why aint I rich?" question---I am making some money with my procedure based on the same technology--"Vampire Facelift (R)" but I roll most of it back into advertising the procedure. Part of process of getting physicians to cooperate is to be more about shepherding rather than owning--the more I support them rather than bleed them (pun intended)--the better everyone does.
Since I've been turning down more physicians for training and patients for the procedure (by far more) than I've accepted--in the effort to wait until the procedure is perfected--I really have not tried to profit from the Priapus Shot (R) idea. Believe it or not--there are a few of us where money is not the main thing (I actually lived out of my car for a year after reading Thoreau's Walden in college). I've also done my best to refund the money to anyone who found the procedure's results to be less than optimal--much more than what you'll find from any other type of medical procedure that I know--try that with the cancer surgeon or the fellow who takes out an infected appendix--you die in surgery--your family/insurance still pays.
The idea that I should some how be making more money than G** because I thought up something new will be proven false if you evaluate almost every major discovery in medicine. Are we really down to judging a medical therapy by the bank account of the discoverer?!
Physicians and patients think that we medical innovators should pretty much donate our ideas for the better good--and most of those who make major discoveries in medicine profit very little. Some doctors become very resentful and the whole system is set up so that what ever you think up becomes commonly used. If you're lucky you get your name on a research paper somewhere (even there--often the guy in power publishes THE paper that makes the name while the real discoverer goes unknown).
If you're a CEO for an insurance company you're likely to make much more money than if you discover a new medical therapy.
Even in technology some ideas just can't be captured--for example the guy who invented the internet--which you're now using--profited very little. But, as a general rule, it's easier to monetize technology with patents than it is with medical therapies.
Another example, the first person to do a heart cath (see wikipedia) also profited very little and it was many years later before it became common practice by cardiologists.
Having said that, I do have 3 sons in college and have spent many hours on this project--so I ask those physicians who use my brand names to contribute a very small monthly payment to support the research and the websites. This model has proven effective for the other 2 procedures (the Vampire Facelift (R) and the O-Shot (R)) because it gives the patient a way of knowing who really understands the nuances of the procedure and it gives the doctor who has studied intensively a way of letting the world find him/her (by being listed on one of the websites that I host).
2. Just last week, my partner, Samuel Wood, MD, PhD, rolled out--on national TV--one of my other procedures the O-Shot (R)--which uses the same technology to rejuvenate the vaginal tissue that I use in the Vampire Facelift (R) and in the Priapus Shot (R).
O-Shot (R) gives more consistent results with female sexual dysfunction than do the other procedures--near 100% are helped by the O-Shot (R). My postulate is that it works very well because it's more about simply rejuvenating the tissue--not causing a huge increase in volume. If you're a woman...an 1/8 of an inch increase in volume around the urethra and upper wall of the vagina can be the difference between having stress incontinence or pain with sexual intercourse and being able to run freely without peeing down your leg--and having crazy good orgasms and fun vigorous sex without pain (helps dyspareunia).
You can see a slice of that national TV exposure (and you'll hear my name mentioned as inventor) at OShot.info or at TheDoctorsTV.com (the May 10, 2012 episode).
3. The Priapus Shot (R) is being copied by some who do not know my whole protocol. I'm only seeing 68% with 1/2 inch or more in growth. I've seen a few who grew 2 inches plus but I've also seen some who did not grow at all.
More encouraging: more than 90% with weak erections see improvement in firmness after the injection. After 2 years of working with the shot, I've not found a way (yet) to get to the 90% effective rate for growth (my goal). Even more aggravating, I have not found a way of consistently identifying who will benefit and who will not.
No procedure--however--not even the physical therapies proposed on these forums--not even very common medicines like blood pressure medicine--work for everyone. I simply wanted the percentage with growth to be higher. One would expect though, that whatever percentage see results with the therapies proposed on these forums would be improved (both in percentages seeing growth and the amount of growth seen)--those percentages should be improved by combining the physical therapies with injectable growth factors proven to be helpful in other parts of the body.
Since the Priapus Shot (R) procedure is growing in popularity, however, even though the extent of my own advertising has been one web page and few emails to my patients--I must go ahead an formalize the referral process to keep copy-cats from posing as knowing what I know.
I did show the procedure to a few physicians who came to me to learn the Vampire Facelift (R) and they are advertising--so I feel I must go ahead and create a central website before the idea gets away from me and it becomes difficult to know who's been formally trained and who's the copy cats (the website will identify those who I endorse as knowing what I know and being of good reputation).
So, I'll be putting up a website soon that lists the few doctors whom I have trained--and would expect that list to grow.
I won't be back on the forums for a while--just isn't fun walking into an arena where there seems to be so much anger directed toward me. I still don't understand it since most of the whole forum is primarily based on ideas not yet proven in the medical literature and the adjunctive idea that I'm offering is very well documented to help other tissues--but the reaction of people to new ideas is not a topic I'm trying to research--I need to focus on how to get more than 90% efficacy with this procedure.
I am recommending that until we see over a 90% with growth over 1/2 inch, that physician's who do the shot advertise only that the procedure helps with erections with a possible effect of increased growth if combined with the therapies discussed on this site (basically analogous to the weight lifter on steroids vs the weight lifter just lifting weights). I think in the same way, the results are a combination of how hard and smart the person trains, combined with the overall hormonal and general health of the man, combined with the effectiveness of the Priapus Shot (R) which uses local growth factors to accelerate the results of the physical therapies.
With platelet-derived growth factors commonly used by orthopedist in the knee, by the dentist with oral surgery, by the cosmetic doctors in the face, by the pro-athletes in the joints, by the vets with race horses in the joint, by the pain doctors to help with back pain/healing and now--by the OB/Gyn's in the vaginal tissue--I hope it's not too much of a stretch that these same growth factors might improve the health of the penis--because they do
Look for PriapusShot.com to go up soon and for continued efforts by the physicians listed there (combined with the ideas from our patients who see us) to hopefully find better and better ways.
Peace & health,
Charles Runels, MD
OShot.info
VampireFacelift.com
VampireBreastLift.com
TempleRepair.com
TrainingForSex.com
OrgasmSystem.info
and soon--PriapusShot.com
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So the AMA, your state medical society, state licensing board, and state health department all feel that this is a valid medical procedure and as such you are properly licensed, trained , and board certified to perform such procedures on patients? I'll go do some research.
What you fail to mention is if that 1/2 inch increase is girth or length
Im going to guess girth, and that really isnt impressive at all, anyone could acheive that naturally
Im going to guess girth, and that really isnt impressive at all, anyone could acheive that naturally
Dr. Runels, though I am a registered member here for a long time, this is the first day I have seriously taken into reading and making posts. So, I haven't had opportunity to obtain critical feedback on the information you have provided here. But if your innovations turn out to be safe and they hold the test of time, you rank among a few people that the society should hold in high esteem.
They didn't. I think we ran him out of here a while back. Chem pe, as of today, doesn't work and no one over the years I have been on these forums have ever done anything chemically and come back, not even with proof, to tell me and all of us how much they gained! Okay who's up for pizza?
Actually if you go to professional muscle.com there's a few chemcial pe threads of guys with progress logs and there making gains. Same thing on MOS. The chemicals that are being used are PGE1, TB4, igf-des, dht cream, dmso and paba. Mechanical forms of PE like hanging, jelqing and so forth are being done to supplement the chems. Im starting my chemical PE protocal as soon as my pge1 and tb4 comes in the mail this week. I've already being doing the topical application of the protocal that Ronielle recommends which is 70% dmso mixed with powdered paba to help soften the tunica and connective tissues. Been doing that for 2 weeks and there's definitely a difference in the how stretchy, soft and pliable my flaccid is now. Once I get my pge1 and tb4 I'll start a progress log with pics for proof to see if this sh*t works. Current size right now is nbpel 9.5 x 6.25 midshaft girth. Hoping to reach nbpel 10 plus inches x 7 plus midshaft girth. I'll keep yall informed if yall are interested.
DMSO is good stuff to get chemicals into the blood stream transdermally. Not quite sure whether the stuff is clean. Rumor it has a not of impurities in it. But I didn't care back in the day.
This guy ronnille injects himself with a vasodilator, not any kind of growth hormone. If it work, it would only be temporary, and when it wears off, then your back to square one!! I would be more interested in the IGF-1 hormone!!
CHEM P.E. Can work if you know what you are doing. The bad part of it is that a lot of people on here do not seem to believe in it, or that they are the key holder for the one and only way for it to work. I have meet a few people all who have done slight variations and all seen gains. I have also meet others who could not commit and saw nothing.
