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@ jack agreed , I dont think test IM injects work directly but with exersizing the penis i belive they should

@ raff ,
1. I was going to get andreactim (DHT cream) but I had an order seized but i am mmoving soon
2. Yea im buying a water based suspension so i think i might be safe injecting it into my penis
3 . yea im just on dbol for 4 weeks , while waiting for test to kick in.
4 . yes right after exersize (EOD) , 6 weeks on 6 weeks off ... im considering MGF for my 6 weeks off but I still want to do more research
5. I am using 1cc syringes with 27 gauge needles ( my pharmacy said that was the smallest they had at the time) , this was less painfull then injecting my glute with test.

6. what do you think about injectible winny (water based)? ... its pretty much injecting DHT


I need a new car so ill need to save up for some GH , I was thinking about doing 4 IU but that will get expensive .
 

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Somebody plz pm me with a source or info on how to mess up an HRT test when you are asked to fast before hand. I've messed up the results with sugar and beer before but now I am taking a glucose test on the same day. They are catching on and I'm in need of some gear that isn't going to get caught up in customs if my test levels come back normal which I believe they will.

Help a fellow PE'r out!
 

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lol there was somthing in a flex magazine i read as a kid called your doctor your dealer and it was explaining how to fake low testosterone ... ill see if i can find it.
 

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I'm glad this thread is so active again.

Shane, have you seen any growth from injecting only IGF? For how long have you been doing this?
 

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lol like a week ... it mightjust be in my head but i think my dick looks more veiny
 

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When I start it up I will take monthly pictures. You should do the same! :)

Glad to hear that you are experiencing something positive.
 

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6. what do you think about injectible winny (water based)? ... its pretty much injecting DHT
I need a new car so ill need to save up for some GH , I was thinking about doing 4 IU but that will get expensive .

winny is water based. in this context a good thing. BUT winny >< DHT..its a DHT derivative
still sound like a good plan though :))

but im warning you : MAKE SURE YOU TRUST YOR SOURCE 107%. because winny is waterbased, bad vials can contain bactearia (which can never happen in the ethyl/oil solutions) - thats why you sometimes hear of BB'ers developing an abcess after injecting winny...its a small majority, and with good gear shouldnt be an issue - just don buy it off a street corner bro!

i think that needle must b an insuline needle (i always forget those dimensions)

i pretty convinced you should see results with this. 25mcg igf + exercise
test or winny is optional but may explode gains...

go shane :)

ps to bad about he car
 

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@kirin
yea ive been thinking about it but i didnt want to if I was only on IGF becasue im not expecting imediate gains

@raff ,
Yea Im pretty sure winny will help atleast mature the new cells at an excelled rate , I just dont want to be the first person out there to try it , winny is somthing i thought of on my own everything else i looked at ,other people tried ... But on the other hand if I do try it and it does work , ill have helped advance chemical PE and helped other people trying it in the future
 

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well i just orderd injectible winny , i dont know how much to inject ... maybe 25mg a day so the vial will last 20 days and i will take 50 a day orally but ill stop running dbol
 

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lol im like excited about this its all i think about since i started ... Im so confident in this ill be dissappointed if I dont see some good gains
 

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maybe 25mg a day so the vial will last 20 days and i will take 50 a day orally but ill stop running dbol

sounds like too much imo bro. thats 0.5 ml.
get small size syringes and try 0.1 or 0.2 ml

compare penis with quadriceps - its not gonna need that much to grow bro!

and dont get overexcited! as i said before, new cells need 5 to 6 months to develop & mature

make sure ur gear is good quality, use as little as possible and develop a routine for EOD or ED

gr

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so do they mature to the same size as the other ones?

and im hoping for more imidiate gains with the winny ... my guy said $200 was min order so i orderd 2 vials and he said its kool to be alittle under 200

so these 2 vials will last a while and i have 100 pills (25mg) on hand so ill inject .2ml with .1 igf post workout into my penis while takeing 50mg orally (winny will be daily , and igf will stay EOD)
 

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so do they mature to the same size as the other ones?
<R> yes, they do. IGF splits cells which may be small in the beginning, but they wil mature - kinda like kids growing up
and im hoping for more imidiate gains with the winny ... my guy said $200 was min order so i orderd 2 vials and he said its kool to be alittle under 200

so these 2 vials will last a while and i have 100 pills (25mg) on hand so ill inject .2ml with .1 igf post workout into my penis while takeing 50mg orally (winny will be daily , and igf will stay EOD)

im crossing my fingers for you buddy, really am. DHT may show faster effects, that i agree. but i somehow suspect it will be a more painful shot as well, not to mention dangerous (IGF should come freezedried - factory style, where winny most likely is underground?
or do you have legit desma gear?

im just gonna go with primo shots in the future and a dht creme. IGF i got is trutworthy.

i do find your source a bit ...uhm...asshole-ish..."minimum order is 200$" - is this the first time you buy off him?

gr

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Ps i don think the pills will have much added value if you are allready injecting winny directly in to your penis - consider it bro
 

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yea this is my first order with him ... he gave me free shipping though so thats cool , my normal lab didnt have injectible winny ( im in canada , most domestic sources do have a min order)

( i alredy have the pills on hand so im actually going to use them to help me lean out for summer and ill take out dbol , and when i go off winny ill add mast , so i wont be all bloated from deca)

... im not worried at all about pain , I have an apadravya and thats one of the most painfull things a guy can do
 

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The ideal thing would be to add caverject. I can't believe that sh*t is almost impossible to find!!!!
 

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The ideal thing would be to add caverject. I can't believe that sh*t is almost impossible to find!!!!

why? its just used to blow up the blood vessels, same as a vacuum pump would do...

what the hell is an apadravya shane??

im from the benelux area (belgium, netherlands, luxmburg) plenty of suppliers ere. my only issue is cash atm
 

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why? its just used to blow up the blood vessels, same as a vacuum pump would do...

what the hell is an apadravya shane??

im from the benelux area (belgium, netherlands, luxmburg) plenty of suppliers ere. my only issue is cash atm

raffinato, caverject it works way different for me bro. I tried it a while ago from a friend who gave me one of those dual chamber injections, and is unbelievable. A vacuum force blood from the outside, and in my case, I need to put too much pressure causing too much discoloration. Same with Jelquing. I have to jelq so tight, with so much pressure, that my hands get cramped really fast and also damage the skin. With caverject, I felt an internal expansion that I never had before. It make me hard as a diamond cutting tool, and stayed like that for 7 hours.

So adding caverjet to IGF-1 and jelquing, could be very beneficial. Bur where to get it!!!! :(
 

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yea , caverject is diferant then a pump , its a 3 hour erection at 90% and softens the tissue making it more plyable