ByggD's Guide to Controlling Your Ejaculation Response

[murad1]

My first day recap;

I have stroke for one our with slow movements as described, no image, no auditory, coudnt pass even 6 arousal level then moving on picture girl in bikini ,doggy position which turns me on badly and getting 9 arousal level after gearing up stroke rate lasting 10 minutes to cum! so any advice what should I do for next? Thanks

Second Day;

Due to arousal level without images going for "Chasing PONR"

I have done this for 1 hour watching video which context girls are in bikini dancing

lasting 1 hour but if taking out break time for kegels assuming outrage stroking 30 minutes

Nevertheless I can last just 2 min. in real vagina!

Chasing the PONR

When doing this the goal is only to reach the PONR once.
When edging counter ever spasm just before it occurs with a front reverse kegel.
If you don’t know your body well enough yet to tell when a spasm is about to occur then just counter them when they do occur.
You want to be always pushing the PONR back every time it starts to get near with front reverse kegels.

 

[Classified96]

So I'm starting this today.
Just quick question, should the strokes be right or just gentle? The tighter, the quicker I end up finishing..

And whenever I've had sex, not even deep penetration, the vagina feels tight and its like penis is giving in already so I'd probably last about 30 secs to a minute.. The anus is a no go - just too tight and be finished straight away

 

[Discrete92]

Hi guys,

Looked through the majority of this thread and there's alot of incredibly great and helpful info here. I am currently on day two, and the big thing I've noticed is when I'm edging and I stroke over my tip, my pc muscles are incredibly tight. But I feel like when I try to reverse kegel to Counter this, it pushes PONR even closer! I am doing a reverse kegel routine of 50 one sec kegels, 20 five secs, 10 ten secs, and 5 30 sec kegels, and I perform body stretches when I wake up and at night before bed.

I guess I'm just asking if I'm on the right track here? The first two days I've reached PONR at the 5 minute mark, so before going any further I just want some clarification!

Thanks.

 

[Pegasus]

Rk can be used well back from ponr.

 

[Classified96]

Tried 3 minutes with real tight grip, was about to ejaculate within 30 secs. My problem has been not being able to handle a tight vagina

 

[098el890]

Thank you so much I greatly appreciate this, I look forward to trying this out and hopefully it working

 

[wand-extendio]

very good thread I will be trying this.

 

[nat3]

At the stage where you're looking at a still pornographic images for 10 minutes at a time, should you be listening audio as well? Or just looking at the images alone?

 

[TANGO 5/10]

Good Thread , Wondering how the Pegym members against visual stimulation anywhere shape or form in Edging/Ballooning feel about this. I am going through a test of Imagination , Visual , Audio Stimulation . Things are good to go so far in the imagination department , but shutting down the stamina training at 20-30 minutes. 100% EQ

 

[TANGO 5/10]

????? ,. So what's your thoughts Pegym members who are vehemently against Visual Stimulation , Pornography , Audio use in Edging/Ballooning thoughts on this Thread brought back to life from 2011. I'm surprised (Wishful 10x8x) ain't up on here talking about some this thread is BLASPHEMOUS , BLASPHEMY ... Oh Snap . ROTFL , wow did the original poster of this thread put a lot of Time & Effort into this , to make a point on his take of battling Pre-E.

 

[Pegasus]

Isn't it great we have diversity of views onsite and a wide variety of training options

 

[TANGO 5/10]

Bump , Yessir here it is again. Read this thread & it's actually encouraging Pornography to combat Pre-E. Of course not all the way through but Pornography is suggested to tackle your Pre-E.

This is a long long long thread but it's actually worth the read

 

[TANGO 5/10]

I could of sworn this thread was a Sticky

 

[theGOAT]

You convinced me, back to porn

 

[Lezoteli]

You convinced me, back to porn

Try to avoid that GOAT!

Without porn off course you have that kind of horny feeling and if you rush during sex you risk to cum earlier...
But you need to learn how to manage that. And you have it only the firsts moments.
Besides that, No porn has only benefits as you probably know.

 

[theGOAT]

I was joking.In my own experience I dont see a big difference in PE, regardless porn or no porn, but there are other great benefits for sure.Though sometimes I watch some great amateur couple making love, it reminds me of me and my girl.

 

[arandomperson]

Hey ByggD, really appreciate the effort you've put into this. I recently decided that I would finally put in the work required to tackle this issue I've had my whole life, and your guide seems like a great way to go about it (I've made a few modifications for myself, the main difference being that I am trying to mostly use a fleshlight ). I've spent the last few days carefully trying to observe my arousal response and I was wondering if you could answer a few questions I have, if you've got a moment:

(1) I've noticed that when edging (particularly with the fleshlight), I can go for a few minutes before the "difficult to manage" arousal starts to kick in. Once I've hit that point (say, after 3 minutes), it "permanently" becomes much more difficult to continue, even if I stop and let myself cool down for a little bit. In other words, the "stop and switch positions if you feel like you're getting close" trick doesn't work so well because my arousal never seems to drop enough after a certain point. Are there any techniques which help to reduce and maintain lower arousal level when this occurs? Or is the only way to entirely avoid ever getting too close?

(2) I have a lot of trouble dealing with arousal "spikes", which are things that make me jump instantly from a 7 to a 9. For example, the fleshlight sometimes makes a suctiony blowjoby sound which sets me off pretty quick. Or if I change the focus of stimulation a bit (e.g. bend the fleshlight up so it's hitting my frenulum more directly). How would you recommend working toward becoming more immune to this type of thing?

(3) There are times when I feel my arousal level rising but even when trying to do everything "right" (telling myself out loud to reduce from 9 to 7, breathing slowly and deeply, focusing on my breath and other parts of my body but not my penis), the physical sensations on my glans are just so intense that I have to entirely stop. Did you encounter this issue, and if so, how did you work through it?

Thanks for your time.

 

[iceclimber]

The problem is not being aroused, but the way we conditioned ourselves to react to this feeling. I was one of the many guys here who got conditioned to squeeze my pelvic floor muscles when I was aroused.
So what I suggest and has been working for me is getting familiar with the sensations that comes with arousal so you can manage them better. And here I'm mostly talking about that urge to tense the pelvic floor. Train yourself to keep it relaxed during the whole edging sessions. Try using hands with lube or flesh-light because they simulate better the sensation you have on the penis when inside a pussy.

No porn, use only your imagination.

 

[arandomperson]

While I agree that pelvic floor muscles certainly play a large role, I'm not convinced that they're the primary culprit. By tense, you mean kegeling, right? I can easily masturbate relaxed or even lightly RKing the entire time, but I will still ejaculate easily provided continuous stimulation and sufficient arousal. Furthermore, there are times, such as when edging for long periods of time or having stoned sex, where even intentionally kegeling doesn't really bring me closer, or at least it is much slower.

For me it feels like there are two distinct "modes" my penis operates in: in high arousal mode, the physical sensations are very... high resolution feeling, for lack of a better word, and every little movement feels intensely warm and tingly and they quickly build on each other in a runaway fashion. But in normal mode, the entire motion as a whole feels good and there is a limit to how good it can feel, regardless of how much stimulation is applied. Kegels and RKs can contribute to moving me between these modes, but they don't define them.

 

[iceclimber]

What brings you closer to ejaculating is escalation, and escalation happens when you kegel. A guy can't ejaculate if he doesn't kegel, and that's why guys who have a too loose pelvic floor have delayed ejaculation.

Arousal makes the body more tense, specially on the genitals area, and so your pelvic muscles get tense and are more prone to contract involuntarily when stimulation occurs. To help release this tension of arousal you can focus on breathing more slowly and deeply, and also focusing on gently expanding all the pelvic floor area (front and back rk).

I was a practitioner of meditation with visualization, and now I use some of the techniques I learned on this type of meditation to help my body relax during arousal. I visualize a soft light that brings a chill, calming and relaxing sensation on the pelvic floor area, and so I can feel the tension being released while I still keep stimulating the penis. And so my body slowly learns that arousal and stimulation not necessarily means tension, but it can be the opposite.