Best "Average Size" Poll I've Seen

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I still dont understand those with desires to go to 9"-10"+ and massive girths. Why would you want to be bigger than what can fit in a mouth or vagina? I hate to make the generalization that they have ego or insecurity issues but other than those I cant see a reason for it. I have recently started pe and have been thinking about my long term goals if this works for me. Honestly I'm worried to go to 8x6. I'm around 7x5.5 (bpel but im skinny and my fat pad is minimal) and with my increased EQ since I started, lately I've been looking at my erection thinking "hmmm do I really want to go much bigger than that?"

I totally agree with this, at first I was thinking the magic 8x6 would be my ultimate goal, but now I think I'd be ecstatic with 7.5x5.5 and probably try to maintain that. 8 or 9 inches BPEL is nice to look at and probably a huge visual turn on for ladies, but why would I want to be so long that there's no chance I could go balls deep and oral would also suffer.
 

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Sorry for little off-topic

I think that chase aftrer having a big penis is a legacy of times when we were still climbing trees and brandishing with our dicks in order to chase of potential rivals

And back to the main subject

I belive that the reason why so many "girthy" people visit this forum is what ColtAR-15 mentioned.
1) This place has a knack for attracting guys with large girths ( possibly due to the larger girths making them look shorter)
 

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If were talking BP I totally don't buy the 5.4" figure. I also don't believe that 7" BP is in the 99th percentile. I think 70th percentile is more accurate but I personally believe it to be somewhere in the 60% range. I just don't think 7" BP is all that uncommon. I would like to believe it is just like I would like to believe a 5" EG is in the 65th percentile but I just don't think it is so.

Coltar -- We have all heard you make this argument several times. It is bordering now on statistical paranoia. You don't seem to believe any statistic offered to you.

We are all insecure about our sizes, and that insecurity tends to make us doubt the statistics, but c'mon, you can't believe this is all some huge conspiracy. I don't see why you can't just accept the Thunder's poll (The significance of Th***er's P**ce PE Data stats - Th***er's P**ce Free Penis Enlargement Forums) and the Thunder's analysis of all the studies (Penis Size: The True Average - Th***er's P**ce Free Penis Enlargement Forums).

These each show that 6 bpel and 5 mseg are about average.
 

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Good point on the condoms. At 5.5 I dont fit into some regular condoms depending on the brand. If that was close to average than an average size condom should fit no problem. I'm sure condom companies make a lot of money from their sales and doubt they have been accidentally making them the wrong size all this time.

Good points about the condom sizes. To tell you the truth the biggest factor in why I am skeptical of the published averages is from reading things on this forum. Its hard not to have doubts when you see one newbie after another reporting 5.5"+ EG. I used to think it was much more uncommon. I know I have said this before but I have dificulties feeling even average since coming here. I have been told several times that I don't look small (girth or length) by members comments on my album but the photos just don't seem to represent what I see myself. Regardless of what it looks like in photos I still only measure 5" EG. (i.e. in all liklihood not the preferred or optimum size of most women) 5" Eg or less still works and can still bring women to vaginal orgasm but 5.5 " would in all liklihood do a better job doing it in my opinion. Just a unfortunate fact that us smaller guys have to deal with. Unfortunately sometimes I do not deal with it as well as others and I applaude the guys even smaller that still have a good attitude about it. If I thought that "average" EG (4.8" - 5") was the optimum size ( the size that typically causes the most pleasure) then I would probably be content with it. But I know that typically that is not the case based on all I have read here. Sorry for the rant. It's been a while since I have had one so I guess I was due
 
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Coltar -- We have all heard you make this argument several times. It is bordering now on statistical paranoia. You don't seem to believe any statistic offered to you.

We are all insecure about our sizes, and that insecurity tends to make us doubt the statistics, but c'mon, you can't believe this is all some huge conspiracy. I don't see why you can't just accept the Thunder's poll (The significance of Th***er's P**ce PE Data stats - Th***er's P**ce Free Penis Enlargement Forums) and the Thunder's analysis of all the studies (Penis Size: The True Average - Th***er's P**ce Free Penis Enlargement Forums).

These each show that 6 bpel and 5 mseg are about average.

Yes those studies do all say that but it is also plausible that they are not accurate due to various reasons. I do think that 6" length is probably pretty close but am inclined to believe that is closer to NBP than BP. My skepticism of the girth figures are primarily based on my experience here. These are just my opinions and I have no animosity for those that choose to have full confidence in the studies.
 

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I've thought along similar lines Colt, but I've decided that without deluding myself I'm gonna be realistic.

I only take into account people who have posted properly measured pictures (A guy that posts a picture with no tape/ruler and says he's 8x6 means nothing to me).
I realise that the pictures on this site are always going to be full of the larger end of the spectrum, nobody is going to post a picture of themselves if they feel truly insecure about their size.
 

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Yes those studies do all say that but it is also plausible that they are not accurate due to various reasons. I do think that 6" length is probably pretty close but am inclined to believe that is closer to NBP than BP. My skepticism of the girth figures are primarily based on my experience here. These are just my opinions and I have no animosity for those that choose to have full confidence in the studies.

Just to be clear, I'm also inclined to believe that 6" is not totally bone pressed. Most of the professional studies probably pressed a bit into the fat pad (it's hard not to press at all), but did not come close to touching the bone. So I would add about .5" to each professional study.

That yields an average of about 6.3" BPEL. And guess what? That is consistent with just about every poll on this site, Thunder's, and the penis Visualizer. These polls are completely anonymous and are performed by a large sample of people with clear measurement standards. I find that very reliable. So yes, 7" BPEL might not be the 90%. Maybe it's closer to 80%. Whatever the case, it's a good amount above average.

As for girth, every single study/poll to use mid-shaft finds the average a tad below 5" and every one to use base/max girth finds the average to be about 5.2". I think it is safe to say the average is no where near 5.5".

With all of this evidence, you would really have to paranoid not to feel confident that the average penis is around 6.0-6.3" BPEL, 5.0-5.2" BEG, and 4.7-5.0" MSEG.
 
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Just to be clear, I'm also inclined to believe that 6" is not totally bone pressed. Most of the professional studies probably pressed a bit into the fat pad (it's hard not to press at all), but did not come close to touching the bone. So I would add about .5" to each professional study.

That yields an average of about 6.3" BPEL. And guess what? That is consistent with just about every poll on this site, Thunder's, and the penis Visualizer. These polls are completely anonymous and are performed by a large sample of people with clear measurement standards. I find that very reliable. So yes, 7" BPEL might not be the 90%. Maybe it's closer to 80%. Whatever the case, it's a good amount above average.

As for girth, every single study/poll to use mid-shaft finds the average a tad below 5" and every one to use base/max girth finds the average to be about 5.2". I think it is safe to say the average is no where near 5.5".

With all of this evidence, you would really have to paranoid not to feel confident that the average penis is around 6.0-6.3" BPEL, 5.0-5.2" BEG, and 4.7-5.0" MSEG.
keep in mind guys with small dicks are not going to be as willing to get measured. saying base is 5.2 on avg would mean the avg man would be able to fit into a magnum(not snug but without slipage). Why would condom brands use mseg? the part that causes slipage/discomfort is the rubber ring right?
 

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Just to be clear, I'm also inclined to believe that 6" is not totally bone pressed. Most of the professional studies probably pressed a bit into the fat pad (it's hard not to press at all), but did not come close to touching the bone. So I would add about .5" to each professional study.

That yields an average of about 6.3" BPEL. And guess what? That is consistent with just about every poll on this site, Thunder's, and the penis Visualizer. These polls are completely anonymous and are performed by a large sample of people with clear measurement standards. I find that very reliable. So yes, 7" BPEL might not be the 90%. Maybe it's closer to 80%. Whatever the case, it's a good amount above average.

As for girth, every single study/poll to use mid-shaft finds the average a tad below 5" and every one to use base/max girth finds the average to be about 5.2". I think it is safe to say the average is no where near 5.5".

With all of this evidence, you would really have to paranoid not to feel confident that the average penis is around 6.0-6.3" BPEL, 5.0-5.2" BEG, and 4.7-5.0" MSEG.

Believe me I would love to believe all of this but I have always been a serious skeptic and not just with this one issue. More than a few times in the past my skepticism has proven to be right. The average size skepticism was primarily brought out due to forums such as this and everytime another newbie shows up with a 5.5" EG it erodes what remaining faith I have in the accepted averages. Everytime I start to believe I am average another one, or two or three show up and the skeptical side of me reveals itself again. I guess I can hope most are lying but why would they. I just don't want to delude myself and believe I am better off than I actually am. My motto has always been hope for the best but prepare for the worst. Maybe that explains some of my psychology.

Lets say you live in a town where virtually every male is 6 ft plus yet you are told the average height is 5'8. The studies seem to say one thing but in your world your observations, perception and intuition all tell you something else. I think that pretty much sums up my thought process on this whether it is rational or not. I would really love to have the faith in these numbers that others do, but it just doesn't seem to be in me. I think another thing is that among all my friends that I have seen in the buff or urinating when I was younger, without exception every one of them appeared to have a significantly larger flaccid. Especially in girth. If the surveys are accurate what are the probablities of this. Yea I know all about the flaccid size doesn't always translate well to erect size but that only goes so far.
 

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The average size skepticism was primarily brought out due to forums such as this and everytime another newbie shows up with a 5.5" EG it erodes what remaining faith I have in the accepted averages. Everytime I start to believe I am average another one, or two or three show up and the skeptical side of me reveals itself again. I guess I can hope most are lying but why would they.
Colt- It's possible that they/we aren't lying, but that even on a PE site, you're still looking at a really biased version of what's out there. I posted in another thread a few days ago that there seems to be sort of a middle ground for penis size where you're large enough to get occasional comments, but thanks to the blasted internet and its monster d**k banners, you never feel that deserving, yet you feel like it's one of the things you *had* going for you. Hate to be a "big d**k complainer", but there are times I feel like that "just above average" range is more trouble and more likely to lead to obsession than being average.
 

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Lets say you live in a town where virtually every male is 6 ft plus yet you are told the average height is 5'8. The studies seem to say one thing but in your world your observations, perception and intuition all tell you something else. I think that pretty much sums up my thought process on this whether it is rational or not. I would really love to have the faith in these numbers that others do, but it just doesn't seem to be in me. I think another thing is that among all my friends that I have seen in the buff or urinating when I was younger, without exception every one of them appeared to have a significantly larger flaccid. Especially in girth. If the surveys are accurate what are the probablities of this. Yea I know all about the flaccid size doesn't always translate well to erect size but that only goes so far.


And there is a guy in a town where virtually all of the guys are 5'6". And he's going to doubt the average too. The reality is that we are on a site where people come to enlarge their penis, and every one of is obsessed with our little friends to one extent or another. Those that are willing to post their size, and especially pictures of their unit are much more likely to dispense with that information if they are above the average. That is the reality of human nature. Men are hard wired to be competitive, and if you view having an average or below average penis as a negative it is going to be much more difficult for you to post that perceived short coming. We have no idea how many guys that are below average or average are out there that view and or create accounts without stats. We are most likely to see and remember those which stick out; those we see the most, those who are largest, those to confirm our fears. Your perceptions skew the world around you.

Perception is 90% of reality.
 

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I guess 7" is not the top 1%, it's the top 5%. Still that seems a little high for 7". I was thinking 7" was like top 80%.
 

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Just because most here start at a decent size already doesn't change the fact that the averages are as stated. There's many guys with 3.75-4" meg and 4.5" bpel, and many condoms for that size meg are sold.
 

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Thanks guys. I guess every once in a while I feel the need to throw a tantrum and you guys have to come in and slap some sense into me.
 

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Oh 7" isn't the top 1% anymore?
I leave you guys alone for one week and that's what happens?
Oh well, I'm sure we'll find some way to deal.
 

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Oh 7" isn't the top 1% anymore?
I leave you guys alone for one week and that's what happens?
Oh well, I'm sure we'll find some way to deal.

I don't know where some of you are getting the 7" BP is in the top 1% stuff. I believe most the studies show that to be about 70-80th percentile at best.
 

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I know I said this before but the sales of condoms is the true average. go to this site TROJAN® Brand Condoms Product List | Vertical Packaging
click all materials, all features, then under fit click regular. look how many selections there are. A lot right? now click large. Now we are down to only 8. Why? because there are not enough people with 5.3+ (also keeping in mind some people wear larges to boost their egos even though they are lose as hell on them) to make profit on all the other styles. Now click xl and now we are down to 1 condom style.
 

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I know I said this before but the sales of condoms is the true average. go to this site TROJAN® Brand Condoms Product List | Vertical Packaging
click all materials, all features, then under fit click regular. look how many selections there are. A lot right? now click large. Now we are down to only 8. Why? because there are not enough people with 5.3+ (also keeping in mind some people wear larges to boost their egos even though they are lose as hell on them) to make profit on all the other styles. Now click xl and now we are down to 1 condom style.

Condom size is probably the biggest sign of correct averages. They wouldn't make condoms too small for people.
 

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