Any rumors on this new LG hanger?

[Mr. Magoo]

From the photos, its a little bit like the vac extender by autoextender. I've used this and gotten up to 7.5 pounds with it but it was too uncomfortable. I still use it as an all day extender using straps, and also with 5 pounds while watching TV in bed. This product looks to be more "heavy duty" than the vac extender. Perhaps one day I'll give it a go. Schlittle, I actually appreciate your comments. Different views is the name of the game and your points about safety are well taken. Dr. Ric is in the business of making money, and I don't mean that disrespectfully. People come up with innovative ideas, market it (here and other places), and people benefit from using the product. At least that's the hope. I wish him well in his new adventure, and look foreword to member reports of their hopeful successes here.

 

[Dr Ric]

In this cynical day and age the intransigent philosophy of many seems to be about making money and assuming the same of others.

Perhaps we should be reminded periodically that empathy, compassion, and the joy of helping or enabling others, is a greater goal.

 

[donjelqer76]

Dr. Ric,

Do you guys plan on publishing the results of your medical study for peer review?

This already got buried a couple pages back. Just giving it a bump incase the question was missed

 

[Padawan787]

I've seen it mentioned that JP has worn it for 2h, what is the safe upper limit in terms of time?

Do you have an idea of the hanger's upper weight limit?

How is this different to the vacutech hanger (which also uses a vacuum to attach to the glans)?

Any idea on initial pricing? Will there be worldwide shipping? Any details on your warrantee and parts repair/replacement policy?

Do you plan on publishing your entire study? Not necessarily submitting it for peer review, just making it available online.

Bump.

EDIT: also, the range of cup sizes (for the glans attachment) and a general idea for the release date would be good.

 

[JonPop]

May have to change your name to Tri-Pod

Um...Tri-Pop?

 

[DaddyDick]

I was wondering about the sale of the individual cup, I am sure many have sleevs and for guy like me who has a pump and the rest of the parts all some would need are the cups to try this.

This will put people like myself in the loop as possible purchasers. I am working with limited funds and room space. I do not need more weights or spare pumps and frankly will not purchase more.

 

[ino]

In this cynical day and age the intransigent philosophy of many seems to be about making money and assuming the same of others.

Perhaps we should be reminded periodically that empathy, compassion, and the joy of helping or enabling others, is a greater goal.

You are right. I know that there exicst true humanitarians who are generous without letting profits rule the game. But let's face it, each day we are bombardered with product offers from all directions, and about all of the offers are about business and profits.

You know your own true motives, and if you know by yourself that you are doing a philantropic work for PEing, I surely understand that you then feel disappointed when met with scepsis from some individuals. But fact is that when the claim of this new hanger being superior to the older ones is based on your personal assurances and anectotes, in addition to a short-term test made by JonPop, then it basically lands on asking the consumers to support their purchase on faith. A goodwill to you is still faith. From an outside perspective, the many products we are offered on a daily basis are unfortunately offered to us mainly because of economical interests, and even sellers with good intentions are biased as of the quality of what they offer.

Taking this into light, can you really blame people for asking you for a more detailed report, with details of data that can be read by individuals on the other end? Because you state that you possess such data.

Such data helps people coming to a conclusion about the product on other grounds than that of faith.

You are yourself educated within the science, and thus know the relevance of available data, and you should then be the first here to understand how faith is a bad foundation in such matters like these.

I see that you have the respect of some older members here, but between the lines I also see that other members again are insecure.
Some posts above are written friendly, but really they hint for some more solid data to be presented.

I hope you don't mix the insecurities and the reluctancy that we can read in some responses as mere disrespect.

I personaly feel positive to what I have heard so far, based on the review from JonPope and the little info that is available for now.

 

[Marlon LGHanger]

Hello everyone! I feel like Dr. Nick Rivera on the Simpsons. Let me introduce myself and give you a little bit of a PE autobiography...

Back in November of 2010 I had a penile lengthening surgery. My motivation was for a variety of reasons. First and foremost I have always desired to have a larger penis. Secondly I had a very curved erection that didn't allow me to have intercourse in certain positions without pain. So my PE journey began. I had recently got a divorce after 23 years of marriage and felt it was the perfect opportunity to pursue my desire and fix my problem. I did a good deal of study and homework, considered the potential negative side effects and sought who I felt was the most experienced competent surgeon in the field. I believe that the old adage a picture is worth a thousand words is appropriate for my story. You can see my before and after pictures on Max Your Size - Your Answer for Penis Enlargement Surgery, Penile Enhancement Length & Girth Surgery! - just look for "lengthening procedures" and I'm the guy on the Nov. 2010 segment. The last time I visited the website a while back my pics were also featured on the section that talks about an anti-scar tissue membrane used in my surgery called "Scaffold".

Anyway the rep from Maxyoursize and the surgeon recommended a post surgery "traction device" call the Grip System. So I bought it and tried to use it with little success. The problem was every time I tried to wear it, it would leak vacuum and the rubber would tear or the weight would simply slip off. I am a machinist by profession with 37 years experience in manufacturing in a variety of industries (marine, auto, Mx dirtbikes, electronics, automation robotics, aviation, and plastic injection molding). I also have almost enough college credits for a mechanical engineering degree.... just never wanted to be a mechanical engineer. I like machining and felt there was more money to be made as a machinist owning my own business and having the satisfaction of being my own boss. With that said, it didn't take me too long to diagnose what the problem was. I found a solution and made a better "mouse trap". I went to the owners of the Grip and shared with them my take and exactly what I did to fix the problem. Instead of being greatful for pointing out the design flaw they were indignant and weren't interested in the fix. I even showed them how I fixed the flaw and sent them a device that I machined in my own shop. I also shared what I had found to the rep of Maxyoursize and the surgeon who did my procedure. As I found out several other patients had experienced the same problem with the device that I had, became discouraged or just continued to by more replacement rubber. I can only speculate as to why the people at the Grip don't want to fix the problem.... could it be because they make more money selling replacement rubber? I can't say for sure. Maybe it's just pride and they don't want to admit their device has a serious flaw. I never thought too much would become of my diagnostic fix. However within a week of sharing my find with Daniel at Maxyoursize I began to get request from him and the surgeon to make replacements for former patients and future patients.

Along the way I have gotten a lot of feedback that has allowed me to make subtle improvements along the way. As more requests began to come my way to make these replacements I began to think that maybe I needed to share this with someone who actually had some serious PE experience. So I searched the internet. I found PE Gym and Dr Ric. I got in touch with Dr. Ric, not having a clue as to what his response would be. I told him about my device and what I had learned and offered to send him one of my units to try. I can tell you I heard the skepticism in his voice when I first talked to him. After seeing his website and looking at the gains he had made I knew he had obviously been doing something right. He had shared that he felt that the BiB Hanger was the King of the hill as far as hanging devices were concerned. Since I had never tried the BiB who was I to tell him he was wrong? I had no experience with it. But after asking him a few questions about hang poundages and hang time durations with the BiB, I felt my device was at least in the same league. So he sent me a BiB and I sent him my device. It was within a week that we both gave some time to try each others device. Personally I felt after trying the BiB that my unit was better in every way imaginable. That doesn't mean I think the BiB is junk.... by no means. There may be guys who prefer it over my device. But to date I haven't talked to anyone who has compared the two that will tell me they like the BiB Hanger better.

Over the past three years I have personally gained 2" in erect length and 1 1/2" in girth throughout my entire length. I attribute these gains to a combination of weight hanging, some pumping that I started two years ago and to implementing a variety of the exercises I have learned from Dr. Ric and from Aaron's book.
Do I believe I could have made these gains without the lengthening surgical procedure? I don't know.... that is a very long story and I will be happy to share it as time goes on. I do want to give a disclaimer on the time I can give to the forum. I have a very busy machine shop that I run all by myself, and on top of all that I am still in financial recovery from a nasty divorce. Which has forced me to "short sell" my home. I will be moving and relocating my business about 200 miles north of where I am now in 45-60 day from now. That said I will try to participate as much as possible as time allows. I am happy to answer honest questions and give advice based on my personal experience. Constructive criticism is welcomed, however if your an antagonist with an axe to grind or if you want to cast aspersions regarding Dr. Ric's character, motivation or role in helping me develop the device all I can say is I don't suffer fools well! My time is limited and valuable and I won't allow it to be wasted trying to defend slanderous or baseless accusations. All I can say is try the device, I believe the market place and time will be the judge of it's place in the world of PE. I am kind of an inventor and both Dr. Ric and I have other ideas we plan on working together on in the near future. I was recently introduced to JonPop and have already had some serious discussions. Both He and Dr. Ric will more than likely be my mouthpieces at times. I can have one 30 minute conversation with either of them and convey more about what I have come to learn in my short 3 years of PE that I can pounding on this keyboard!

 

[ino]

Over the past three years I have personally gained 2" in erect length and 1 1/2" in girth throughout my entire length. I attribute these gains to a combination of weight hanging, some pumping that I started two years ago and to implementing a variety of the exercises I have learned from Dr. Ric and from Aaron's book.
Do I believe I could have made these gains without the lengthening surgical procedure? I don't know.... that is a very long story and I will be happy to share it as time goes on

Those are great gains, and I appreciate your honesty when you add that you don't know whether you would have made those gains without the additional surgical procedure.

I am sorry to hear about your divorce; I hope that you feel good about it rather than crushed (as in a new beginning.)

I like the sound of how safe and practically without bad side-effects the LG hanger is, and I sincerely hope it turns out that safe and good.
Since there's nothing wrong making money on a good product, I then hope that you will be well financially rewarded by this product, and in this way get fast back on your feet in your new life in your new surroundings.

Since I know nothing of vacuum traction devices, I will leave it to other people to ask practical questions.

My best wishes!

 

[namsokiek]

In this cynical day and age the intransigent philosophy of many seems to be about making money and assuming the same of others.

Perhaps we should be reminded periodically that empathy, compassion, and the joy of helping or enabling others, is a greater goal.

too many folks (even on this site) think making money is bad. At the basic level making money is evidence of good.

Dr. Ric and LG Info have taken raw materials, added value through the manufacturing process, and returned an item which many are interested in purchasing. Since we all don't want to acquire the materials and perform the work ourselves many are happy to pay for their ingenuity and work. This is good. Their profit margin is a sign of the value we place on their product.

"But," you'll say, "not every one produces goods or adds value." A hardcore economist would argue against that statement. However, I'll agree that some will intentionally design flaws to capitalize on replacement parts (See the Grip System). However, I think we all can agree that users will abandon inferior products, especially after they are introduced to a superior one. (See Kodak)

Bill Gates didn't become a billionaire because he lied and cheated an entire generation of people. He became a billionaire because hundreds of millions of people and companies discovered they couldn't live without his product.

I think it is brilliant that someone is pushing the ingenuity and entrepreneurial envelope. Brilliant because we'll have access to better, more effective, and safer equipment. Brilliant because other clever people will see the profit potential for solid equipment and be motivated to improve yesterday's developments.

BZ to LG Info for his extreme cleverness and Dr. Ric for the willingness to consider something new.

 

[Padawan787]

Bill Gates didn't become a billionaire because he lied and cheated an entire generation of people. He became a billionaire because hundreds of millions of people and companies discovered they couldn't live without his product.

The IBM deal helped.

Gained massive initial market share and locked people into his OS for compatibility reasons. Timing, opportunity, and exposure played a large role in his success.

In order to succeed the LG hanger has to be significantly better then the BIB, otherwise it won't gain enough traction to be relevant. Will be interesting to see how this plays out, since this a new product entering a market with an established leader. (Low prices *hint* *hint*)

 

[donjelqer76]

Thank you for taking the time to post, LG Info. Just for a brief introduction, I have several hundred hours of hanging experience and own all 3 bib hangers.

I do have some observations and questions that I'm hoping either you or Dr. Ric will take the time to answer.

I think your largest barrier for entry is your current price point. Your current pricing is going to preclude a great number of men right off the top. As a small business owner myself, I understand the need for profit and I also understand the hidden costs with business ownership. I am having a difficult time finding the justification in price though. When you look at raw materials even at consumer prices, it's easy to see that there is quite a profit margin here (many of us have built our own pumps and are familiar with the prices of pumps, fittings, etc). I've heard that each dome is machined from solid material - if this is the case then I can see there is some substantial cost there. But if this is the case, why would these parts not be injection molded, or even cast molded? There are literally tons of polymers and acrylic formulations to choose from that along with injection/cast molding could have the cost on the dome down into the single-dollar range. As the glans are taped and there is really nothing of interest to see through the dome, I can't even see why it would have to be a clear material. Surely going to a method of manufacture that is friendlier to mass production would be to everyone's advantage?

Dr. Ric has alluded that medical studies have been completed. Are the results of the study going to be published and peer reviewed (as required by any medical study)? Has there been any tests or studies on subjects where surgery isn't involved? Has there been any tests or studies on men where this is the only form of PE being used?

Are these available for purchase now? What are the current sizes being offered?

Is there any warranty (parts) or guarantee (satisfaction) being offered?


Thanks again for your time. I look forward to seeing your answers and even becoming a future customer.

 

[namsokiek]

Good points about BG; cooperation with complimentary goods and providing relatively superior product were the main marks. MS Office and the PC completely annihilated the type writer, typist pool, etc. etc. The increased productivity sold the product for him and gained him the market share and subsequent control.

Regarding the LG, from the business line prospective the only unique item is the cap and except for the quick release valves everything else is easily replicated. The only way to compete with easily replaceable things is to offer them at the lowest price or only sell bundled packages. The downside to bundling is that potential buyers won't want to buy the bundle for the reasons listed by the members above and trying to compete on price with the readily supply of silicone sleeves, tape, and weights will erode profitability and dilute attention from the main product, the cap.

I think the niche is to focus on the production and distribution of the cap, perhaps with one set of replacement valves. In addition, provide options for the whole bundle and components of the bundle. If appropriately priced, veteran PE-ers will buy the cap to expand this into their equipment suite. If it lives up to the assertions, the veterans may provide feedback or recommendations for the product. Newbies read the recommendations or reviews and purchase the package (because they don't already have the components).

The trick, as you mentioned, is to get the toe in the door. Ensure the widest possible distribution of the core product, then let it sell itself.

 

[Dr Ric]

UOTE=Padawan787;691754]Bump.[/QUOTE]
've seen it mentioned that JP has worn it for 2h, what is the safe upper limit in terms of time?

Do you have an idea of the hanger's upper weight limit?

How is this different to the vacutech hanger (which also uses a vacuum to attach to the glans)?

Any idea on initial pricing? Will there be worldwide shipping? Any details on your warrantee and parts repair/replacement policy?

Do you plan on publishing your entire study? Not necessarily submitting it for peer review, just making it available online.

I will respond to each question in order:

JP- I suggest you ask JP directly, wearing time after completing conditioning (similar to Bib Hanger) is literally open ended.

1. Weight Limits. Continuous wearing time alters the equation as previously mentioned, so it is not just maximum weight but the implications of continuous wearing without a stop start scenario because of circulatory constraints. So in my view 10- 15 lbs continuous wearing, let’s say for 1 hour to 1.5 hours is as productive as 4 x 20 minute sessions at 20-25 lbs. This is how I answered the question to "donjelqer 76 ". This is my scientific intuition on weight x uninterrupted time traction- this principle is , in fact, considered valid in spinal traction therapy. There is a scientific expression that long continuous duration requires less amounts of weight be used to accomplish the goal. I still feel one needs to exceed 10 lbs to induce collagen deformation, but now we have continuous open ended time. I have worn the LG Hanger with 15 lbs (not the upper limit) for an hour resulting in a productive enormous stretch. My thinking is that you do not need to go above this level to get an equivalent stretch using 20- 25 lbs for four sets of 20 minutes.

Your question is a good one but this is the only way I can answer it to give a gauge of capacity which in this case is based on not only absolute weight but the open ended uninterrupted time factor."

2. Vacuteck Comparison: Please PM me with your address and erect circumference behind the glans, and if you are circumcised or uncircumcised we will send you the LG Hanger with silicone sleeve, and you can tell me your observations and comparisons, so you will have direct experience and will not have to take my word for it.

3. Initial Pricing for complete set consisting of the LG hanger. The LG hanger dome, the silicone sleeve, vacuum pump with gauge, appropriate protection tape, instructions, and beginners weight of 3 pounds sells for $295, however the parts can be ordered separately at a prorated cost substantively less.

4. Warrantee for parts repair- the LG hanger is built as you will see like a Sherman Tank, in the remote possibility that part replacement is required, such will be assured, which I will discuss with the manufacturer to determine a fair warranty time frame.

5. Disclosure, transperancy is essential, the co-inventor can address the details of the Medical use better than I because as he was a participant, I can as I have previously reiterated, the LG Hanger was used in a medical setting by post operative penis enlargement patients for its traction capability, a necessity in these post surgical cases to prevent scar adhesions and to promote lengthening. One of the surgery patients was also the manufacturer of the LG Hanger and my coworker, he gained 2". Please understand this was a medical setting under MD surgeon. for more information my colleague can respond.

6. Peer review journals. At this stage of the PE evolution cycle, for get it. Use of this device in a medical setting is the best authentication or validation currently available. To generate a peer review journal here is what is necessary: A university setting; a professor interested in this field; students and lab techs; application for funding from eg. NIH National Institutes of Health for hundreds of thousands of dollars; if you are so fortunate to receive the funding than you proceed with a statistically significant sample of 30 reliable men who will depeneably participate in this study for several years; careful controls must be implemented to insure reliability and precision of results; once this extremely laborious process is complete than you can write for a peer review journal. I have done this twice in my life, once study photoaffinity inhibition of aldose reductase (diabetic cataracts) in the eye funded by NIH (National Institutes of Health), and Vitamin C an ophthalmic wound healing funded by VA (Veterans Administration).

Peer review: When the scientific community becomes sufficiently aware of PE to perform controlled experiments at substantial costs in labor, time and money we will have peer review generated journals on this subject.

 

[schlittle]

Dr Ric:

In your testing so far, and in your opinion - what is the greatest amount of weight that can be safely hung with the LG? Of course it will depend on the individual, their level of conditioning, etc. Just trying to get a sense of what you think the capability of the hanger is for the average person.

The conditioning phase for a student is similar to the Bib Hanger up to 10 lbs, the difference is the LG Hanger has an open ended wearing time. (Please note I grew up on the Bib Hanger, a brilliant device that revolutionized the PE industry in my view.) Previous to the invention of the LG Hanger, I focused on critical weight to cause bond breaking at the fibril level of collagen, triggering remodeling thus defining its capacity.

There is a scientific expression that long continuous duration requires less amounts of weight be used to accomplish the goal. I still feel one needs to exceed 10 lbs to induce collagen deformation, but now we have continuous open ended time. I have worn the LG Hanger with 15 lbs (not the upper limit) for an hour resulting in a productive enormous stretch. My thinking is you do not to go above this level to get an equivalent stretch using 20-25 lbs for four sets of 20 minutes.

Your question is a good one but this is the only way I can answer it to give a gauge of capacity which in this case is based on not only absolute weight but the open ended time factor.

Dr Ric what if your assumption is wrong that using 15 lbs for an hour in the LG Hanger is the equivalent of using 20-25 lbs for four sets of 20 minutes in the Bib hanger. What if the true facts are that 15 lbs for an hour in the LG Hanger is equivalent to using 15 lbs for one set of 20 minutes in the Bib hanger?

Their may be a certain time point in hanging, say 20 minutes, were every bit of time afterwards is pointless. So if that were true then your 15 lbs for an hour or even 2 hours in the LG Hanger would be exactly the same result as 15 lbs for 20 minutes in the Bib hanger.

If this were true then guys using your LG hanger may need to use exactly the same amount of weight as they would with the Bib hanger to deform the tunica. And what we know about the Bib hanger is that a man can hang 50 plus pounds with it..on the otherhand all we know with your LG hanger is that so far it can handle 15 lbs.

I know people may say ludicrous but i'm only thinking outside the box.

 

[Dr Ric]

Hello everyone! I feel like Dr. Nick Rivera on the Simpsons. Let me introduce myself and give you a little bit of a PE autobiography...
Back in November of 2010 I had a penile lengthening surgery. My motivation was for a variety of reasons. First and foremost I have always desired to have a larger penis. Secondly I had a very curved erection that didn't allow me to have intercourse in certain positions without pain. So my PE journey began. I had recently got a divorce after 23 years of marriage and felt it was the perfect opportunity to pursue my desire and fix my problem. I did a good deal of study and homework, considered the potential negative side effects and sought who I felt was the most experienced competent surgeon in the field. I believe that the old adage a picture is worth a thousand words is appropriate for my story. You can see my before and after pictures on Max Your Size - Your Answer for Penis Enlargement Surgery, Penile Enhancement Length & Girth Surgery! - just look for "lengthening procedures" and I'm the guy on the Nov. 2010 segment. The last time I visited the website a while back my pics were also featured on the section that talks about an anti-scar tissue membrane used in my surgery called "Scaffold". Anyway the rep from Maxyoursize and the surgeon recommended a post surgery "traction device" call the Grip System. So I bought it and tried to use it with little success. The problem was every time I tried to wear it, it would leak vacuum and the rubber would tear or the weight would simply slip off. I am a machinist by profession with 37 years experience in manufacturing in a variety of industries (marine, auto, Mx dirtbikes, electronics, automation robotics, aviation, and plastic injection molding). I also have almost enough college credits for a mechanical engineering degree.... just never wanted to be a mechanical engineer. I like machining and felt there was more money to be made as a machinist owning my own business and having the satisfaction of being my own boss. With that said, it didn't take me too long to diagnose what the problem was. I found a solution and made a better "mouse trap". I went to the owners of the Grip and shared with them my take and exactly what I did to fix the problem. Instead of being greatful for pointing out the design flaw they were indignant and weren't interested in the fix. I even showed them how I fixed the flaw and sent them a device that I machined in my own shop. I also shared what I had found to the rep of Maxyoursize and the surgeon who did my procedure. As I found out several other patients had experienced the same problem with the device that I had, became discouraged or just continued to by more replacement rubber. I can only speculate as to why the people at the Grip don't want to fix the problem.... could it be because they make more money selling replacement rubber? I can't say for sure. Maybe it's just pride and they don't want to admit their device has a serious flaw. I never thought too much would become of my diagnostic fix. However within a week of sharing my find with Daniel at Maxyoursize I began to get request from him and the surgeon to make replacements for former patients and future patients. Along the way I have gotten a lot of feedback that has allowed me to make subtle improvements along the way. As more requests began to come my way to make these replacements I began to think that maybe I needed to share this with someone who actually had some serious PE experience. So I searched the internet. I found PE Gym and Dr Ric. I got in touch with Dr. Ric, not having a clue as to what his response would be. I told him about my device and what I had learned and offered to send him one of my units to try. I can tell you I heard the skepticism in his voice when I first talked to him. After seeing his website and looking at the gains he had made I knew he had obviously been doing something right. He had shared that he felt that the BiB Hanger was the King of the hill as far as hanging devices were concerned. Since I had never tried the BiB who was I to tell him he was wrong? I had no experience with it. But after asking him a few questions about hang poundages and hang time durations with the BiB, I felt my device was at least in the same league. So he sent me a BiB and I sent him my device. It was within a week that we both gave some time to try each others device. Personally I felt after trying the BiB that my unit was better in every way imaginable. That doesn't mean I think the BiB is junk.... by no means. There may be guys who prefer it over my device. But to date I haven't talked to anyone who has compared the two that will tell me they like the BiB Hanger better.
Over the past three years I have personally gained 2" in erect length and 1 1/2" in girth throughout my entire length. I attribute these gains to a combination of weight hanging, some pumping that I started two years ago and to implementing a variety of the exercises I have learned from Dr. Ric and from Aaron's book.
Do I believe I could have made these gains without the lengthening surgical procedure? I don't know.... that is a very long story and I will be happy to share it as time goes on. I do want to give a disclaimer on the time I can give to the forum. I have a very busy machine shop that I run all by myself, and on top of all that I am still in financial recovery from a nasty divorce. Which has forced me to "short sell" my home. I will be moving and relocating my business about 200 miles north of where I am now in 45-60 day from now. That said I will try to participate as much as possible as time allows. I am happy to answer honest questions and give advice based on my personal experience. Constructive criticism is welcomed, however if your an antagonist with an axe to grind or if you want to cast aspersions regarding Dr. Ric's character, motivation or role in helping me develop the device all I can say is I don't suffer fools well! My time is limited and valuable and I won't allow it to be wasted trying to defend slanderous or baseless accusations. All I can say is try the device, I believe the market place and time will be the judge of it's place in the world of PE. I am kind of an inventor and both Dr. Ric and I have other ideas we plan on working together on in the near future. I was recently introduced to JonPop and have already had some serious discussions. Both He and Dr. Ric will more than likely be my mouthpieces at times. I can have one 30 minute conversation with either of them and convey more about what I have come to learn in my short 3 years of PE that I can pounding on this keyboard!

I would like to introduce to you my friend and colleague whom we will call LG Info.

Addendum, I had made a home made version before meeting my friend but was sad because there was no way to produce it in mass quantity. When we met he showed me his model and I showed him mine they were technically the same but his was professional rather than home made; and now we are able too provide an amazing device. "God answers prayers, if you will."

 

[JonPop]

Welcome to the peg gym Marlon.
Please though, when you post again, break up your post into paragraphs.
Your initial post was difficult to read.
Again...Welcome, LG Info.

 

[BigO]

Dr Ric what if your assumption is wrong that using 15 lbs for an hour in the LG Hanger is the equivalent of using 20-25 lbs for four sets of 20 minutes in the Bib hanger. What if the true facts are that 15 lbs for an hour in the LG Hanger is equivalent to using 15 lbs for one set of 20 minutes in the Bib hanger?

Their may be a certain time point in hanging, say 20 minutes, were every bit of time afterwards is pointless. So if that were true then your 15 lbs for an hour or even 2 hours in the LG Hanger would be exactly the same result as 15 lbs for 20 minutes in the Bib hanger.

If this were true then guys using your LG hanger may need to use exactly the same amount of weight as they would with the Bib hanger to deform the tunica. And what we know about the Bib hanger is that a man can hang 50 plus pounds with it..on the otherhand all we know with your LG hanger is that so far it can handle 15 lbs.

I know people may say ludicrous but i'm only thinking outside the box.

This is just to answer the question you have posed Schlittle and it is a good question.

From anecdotal evidence and Bibs own experience and even in my own personal experience more than 4 hours a day is when the returns for time are diminished.

In other words hanging more than 4 hours does not yield better results for time invested but even then it would yield some, just not what you would get for time invested under 4 hours. The fact with hanging is that the more time invested, the better the results so one would assume that the longer one can comfortably hang, the better the results should and have been proven to be by those that have invested the time and are experienced with hanging.

I have opted recently to go with a vac hanger and lower weight, some would say that vac hanging is not as good and I am one who had said that in tha past. Now that I have been wearing a vac hanger for 3 to 4 hours a day at only 4 pounds I have been told by my wife that things look bigger again, only a few weeks into it and I am also proud to say that I am feeling the lig stretch at only 4 lbs that I was getting at over 20 pounds and with a lot more comfort.

I am still a fan of the Bib hanger and will use it again, I feel as if this is just another option to add into a tool box and game plan of PE.

 

[guillermo]

3. Initial Pricing for complete set consisting of the LG hanger. The LG hanger dome, the silicone sleeve, vacuum pump with gauge, appropriate protection tape, instructions, and beginners weight of 3 pounds sells for $295, however the parts can be ordered separately at a prorated cost substantively less.

Hi guys!
Really you will try to sell it for $295...!? That is some mad price for this bro... All you need is $50 and you can make your own...
In my head what i see is:
by using your foreskin as protection in long run you will make it ugly looking
for the asking price this device is to complicated
and anyone could make it at home for way less money

Dont get me wrong im not dissing your product, just giving you something to think about!

 

[namsokiek]

Dr Ric what if your assumption is wrong that using 15 lbs for an hour in the LG Hanger is the equivalent of using 20-25 lbs for four sets of 20 minutes in the Bib hanger. What if the true facts are that 15 lbs for an hour in the LG Hanger is equivalent to using 15 lbs for one set of 20 minutes in the Bib hanger?

Their may be a certain time point in hanging, say 20 minutes, were every bit of time afterwards is pointless. So if that were true then your 15 lbs for an hour or even 2 hours in the LG Hanger would be exactly the same result as 15 lbs for 20 minutes in the Bib hanger.

If this were true then guys using your LG hanger may need to use exactly the same amount of weight as they would with the Bib hanger to deform the tunica. And what we know about the Bib hanger is that a man can hang 50 plus pounds with it..on the otherhand all we know with your LG hanger is that so far it can handle 15 lbs.

I know people may say ludicrous but i'm only thinking outside the box.

I don't say ludicrous, I say your thinking out of your ass. What makes you think that 15lbs for 15 minutes = 15lbs for 60 minutes? The impulse of the two actions are drastically different. To avoid mucking about with conversion factors to get to SI units, 15*15 = 225 lb*min and 60*15 = 900 lb*min. So I'm going to guess thinking (a logical analysis of a situation including a very small about of numeracy) is not what you were doing. Unless you know of a magical multiplier which makes 15lbs in the Bib 4 times as heavy as 15lbs in the LG.

You start off with several what-ifs, establish a ridiculous thesis (completely void of numeracy), suggest a time-decay efficacy to non-stop hanging (which is unsupported), then jump immediately to "if this were true" to arrive to other ridiculous conclusions. I'm starting to think your cat typed this argument.

Perhaps you could be bothered to provide some support for your suppositions next time you post.