it does have an effect on natural test production, but as long as you do some PCT, i dont think you should bother with andractim, it is too weak, if your looking for 10% hit me up
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i think 10% dht will be more affective, im going to be starting soon as well, after a few months on beginner routine then when i get into intermediate routines, if your looking for some let me know
Damn. Was curious what the spam was. :a025:
Never seen anyone(sources) offering anything over 2.5%.
Never seen anyone(sources) offering anything over 2.5%.
user offering trying to sell/deal via post/pm.
From Korea, no less.
Mods watch for that kind of thing.
Wow, just read this thread and it's a roller coaster. Don't know if I can bump this thing forward again but as it was written over several years I'm hoping to get some ongoing feedback. I just recently received my AllSaints package so I'm in this game. But, what I would ask here is for anyone that had a positive experience applying the gel to tell if the results remain. Not particularly interested in failed experience - read plenty already and I'm convinced at this point it will work for some and not for others due to hormonal composition and other factors.
Been applying it regularly for a while now. And by regularly I mean a few days before my registration to this forum. To clarify, I had the tubes of Andractim BEFORE I signed up, but I was not applying them on a regular schedule (I was only using it maybe two or 3 times a week after PE/after shower.) After reading some posts here, I decided I was going to be consistent with it and applied it at least 5 days a week (even on "rest" days.)
Except for a stinging sensation when you apply it anywhere near your glans, I haven't noticed any of these:
-Increased length
-Increased girth
-Increased erection
-Increased vascularity
-Hairy palms
Not even a little.
And I also make sure to apply the cream AFTER PE exercises and a hot shower.
Honestly, I think that the DHT cream should be used how its advertised - for male gyno. It seems to work at reducing man tits effectively, but I've never seen anyone claim that DHT products, even INJECTED DHT, (Andractim is a cream btw, don't try injecting it) will cause increases, except for a few miscellaneous online reports (usually from people who post once that they gained 2 inches in a month and then we never hear from them again.)
So now I'm left with 2 tubes, one of them is only about 75% done. I don't have gyno (man boobs) so this product is useless for me. I've also heard unsubstantiated claims that applying DHT cream can result in localized fat loss (if you're lacking girth, this might not be the best thing to apply to your wang.)
However, even this claim does not seem to hold true. I increased absorption using a Dermaroller + thin layer of Andractim on my love handles. After maybe a month and a half, there was no visible fat loss or tightening up of the muscles (I consistently eat healthy and exercise, so if fat loss was going to happen, I would have seen it.)
I'll probably be going to the pharmacy at a later date to find out how to dispose of this stuff safely so it doesn't end up in our water supply.
Guys, don't waste your money on this sh*t unless you have gyno (in which case it's a great product.) I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but DHT cream wont work how you think it will.
I really thought it might work too.Note: DHT supplementation may increase your risk of prostate cancer. This is why your purchase of Andractim comes with a Prostate Screening kit. I did the kit and it turned out negative, but I'm only in my 20s.
I really don't think people should be messing around with Andractim and in retrospect, I feel like I wasted money and possibly put my prostate at risk. Oh well, lesson learned.
Stats for reference:
25 y/o, 6.9" erect, healthy diet, regular exercise, regular PE. Decent vascularity. Lots of body hair.
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And this is why I don't think people should be screwing around with DHT cream. Look at these shady fucks, they don't care about your well-being, they just wanna make a quick buck.
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I was thinking of ordering some of this too, can anyone who've used it let me know of their results on this thread, also heres something interesting i read on it Transdermal dihydrotestosterone therapy and its effec... [J Urol. 1993] - PubMed - NCBI
Ordering it for what purpose? Did you read the entire thread posted above yours?
When people come on here, and their first post is a direct recommendation like that, then stop for a while - it's usually an indicator of their future here. They've already X'd themselves out.
It's amazing how many people come on here to promote it in such a way. AT LEAST post a little more science like we did in the other andractim thread.
Any DHT compound will have little to no results; depending on your genetic androgen receptor density - but also, most importantly, your VEGF and IGF-1 levels. Vascular Endothelial Growth Factor and Insulin-Growth Factors are key and required for DHT to induce ANY penile growth.
It's really common sense, if you know science...you should understand that an Androgen simply maintains proper bloodflow and force, and the tissue growth is experienced during puberty when the androgen receptor is still proliferating.
If you can find a way to increase Androgen Receptors, such as with Quadracarn or another Carnitine analog + Eucommia extract...then you supplement with DHT analogues...while keeping natty T levels high - now you may get some feasible results.
Still, growth hormone, IGF-1 and VEGF would remain important. Possibly BDNF (Brain Derived Neurotrophic Factor) as well.
The problem is, everyone who is using DHT Creams/Gels or supplements, doesn't realize that if the increase isn't statistically significant and above normal levels - it don't mean sh*t, even if the other factors are in place. You want to keep your natural levels high then go SUPRA.
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Everybody that messes with their hormone levels without being a trained endocrinologist is stupid. Even those guys have trouble regulating hormones inside a human and they have been studying and training for years. To use the net for info on increasing or decreasing whatever hormone you wish to screw up will just exactly do that, screw you up. Oh you may not see the damage soon, but you will later.
I have attended more than enough seminars by guys with more letters before and after their names than I have hair on my head and they still can't figure it out. Maybe they should just google it and get the answers they have been researching for 20 years for.
I have attended more than enough seminars by guys with more letters before and after their names than I have hair on my head and they still can't figure it out. Maybe they should just google it and get the answers they have been researching for 20 years for.
Exactly, and body chemistry isn't so simple because what have one person's ancestor's done for years that may not simply be undone, altered or enhanced after another 20? We are talking 500 years of changes in genetic coding > 20 years of living to a certain paradigm. The upkeep is that of the mind - not of individually "modulating" every little bit of chemistry. Besides, while I believe in pharmacological alteration of one's chemistry, unless you know EVERY homeostatic/negative feedback mechanism - and you combine this with impenetrable DISCIPLINE, the results will vary significantly.
I have some good news and some bad news regarding Andractim Gel. Good news first, I am 53 years old. I had a receding hair line, new hair has grown in without any extra vitamins or minerals. Sex drive? Way up! GF is very satisfied! Muscle tone is back with little effort at the gym Morning wood? It varies. Sometimes ya feel like a nut, sometimes ya don't. My 20's and 30's are long gone! lol. Extra sleep is good too. That in itself makes the wood harder. Energy and stamina? That's back along with a stronger erection! Now the bad news. I have received no gains in length from this treatment. I've been applying in the same manner as you for over a year now. I was hoping for gains in girth and I feel as though I have achieved that just in overall male health. Additionally, I have genital Herpes and suffered one to two outbreaks a year. I have not had one outbreak since using this gel. I will continue to use this product as long as it is available to purchase! I am sold on its overall benefit to me! I hope this info helps you!
I am a 22 year old male and I've been on dht cream from all saints for about a week now? Gone through one tube already because of the small %, I've been applying about 5-7 times a day and I think it's getting bigger! I thought about growth and thought I would need a growth hormone to induce growth so I've taken 2000mcg of cjc-1295 with dac to give me around 14 days of constant pluses of GH. My girlfriend notices a difference but I will continue for another week and see what's happened if anything, reasons why I think it will work on me is because I started smoking when I was 14 like 20 fags a day! Stopped a year ago, I am not very tall and my hair is mega thick so fingers crossed my receptors didn't grow my penis to it's full potential and the cream + large dose of GH will do the trick!
Here we go again! Every one of your posts now has been a testimonial of the efficacy / quality of Andractim, you must not have a whole lotta common sense.
This is perhaps the 10th time I have said this:
Tesstosterone treatments can only help improve growth of the penis during puberty and only for those who are producing low levels of T. The only exception is for those who suffered secondary hypogonadism (low T during puberty). Even then, only a few can benefit from Testosterone replacement after puberty.
Tesstosterone treatments can only help improve growth of the penis during puberty and only for those who are producing low levels of T. The only exception is for those who suffered secondary hypogonadism (low T during puberty). Even then, only a few can benefit from Testosterone replacement after puberty.
No sweetheart, I am probably much younger than you and if you read my posts properly and take in the information you'll see that the cream could grow my penis, I started at 5.8 and I've NEVER had anything higher than that, this morning I've measured 6.15, just because you're to old and shrivelled up to see any benefits from the cream don't start slating what I'm doing, thought this was a support site? Seems more like a small penis anger site to give everyone crap for what they're doing.
Keep up your attitude with members and you'll be watching from the cheap seats!
