i know. I still do not follow the articles i posted above with predetermined lengths since that typical NFL dude seems to have a hugish penis which would contradict the notion that it is all about "not being hypogonadal" and that rasing the levels would simply accelerate pubertal development with sooner height- and penis growth-cessation
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i know. I still do not follow the articles i posted above with predetermined lengths since that typical NFL dude seems to have a hugish penis which would contradict the notion that it is all about "not being hypogonadal" and that rasing the levels would simply accelerate pubertal development with sooner height- and penis growth-cessation
lol bit of an angry response from everyone 
quick update, like I said if you're my age and have my back ground DHT might work for you, but if you don't want loads of spots and random mood swings like you literally want to destroy everyone and everything within a 20 mile radius....stay away! I have a tube and a half left and stopped using because I noticed my moods were going all over the place, probably because I was using stupid amounts, I have had about 1/2 gain, I think if I were to have used a penis pump or done some exercises with it I would have got more gains so I am going to look into a penis pump, would be good for some feed back on anyone who has used one properly?
quick update, like I said if you're my age and have my back ground DHT might work for you, but if you don't want loads of spots and random mood swings like you literally want to destroy everyone and everything within a 20 mile radius....stay away! I have a tube and a half left and stopped using because I noticed my moods were going all over the place, probably because I was using stupid amounts, I have had about 1/2 gain, I think if I were to have used a penis pump or done some exercises with it I would have got more gains so I am going to look into a penis pump, would be good for some feed back on anyone who has used one properly?I just read some in this thread, and know now that it is not really a help for when you are past 20 yrs old
I however do want to share that I recall seeying a trustfull tv programm from the UK, where some guys had to test PE stuff (mostly found on sex stores without any real programs to back up with knowledge).
Some tested pumps, some Gels, and after a few weeks, no one really gained anything, execpt for one guy who used a gel-cream (don't know the brand). He gained a lot, I think it was almost an inch. It was without excercises, only applying. I found that remarkable, but he indeed was around 20 yrs old (as were the rest also).
They didnt talk about moodswings or hairloss of course (because it was a small item).
For me after reading this article, Ill go with the natural way, with maybe some HGH boosting (better food, workouts, visualizing).
I however do want to share that I recall seeying a trustfull tv programm from the UK, where some guys had to test PE stuff (mostly found on sex stores without any real programs to back up with knowledge).
Some tested pumps, some Gels, and after a few weeks, no one really gained anything, execpt for one guy who used a gel-cream (don't know the brand). He gained a lot, I think it was almost an inch. It was without excercises, only applying. I found that remarkable, but he indeed was around 20 yrs old (as were the rest also).
They didnt talk about moodswings or hairloss of course (because it was a small item).
For me after reading this article, Ill go with the natural way, with maybe some HGH boosting (better food, workouts, visualizing).
Basing everything of a simple image is ridiculous. Putting higher emphasis on an image over research papers is even more so ridiculous.
I am 8 x 5.5, I have a solid frame, which was otherwise ectomorphic, I barely slept throughout high school (like 7 hours on school nights on average from grade 7 - 12 and maybe 8 on weekends, at best) and I was a late maturer.
I didn't grow even a bit of facial stubble till I was 19 or 20 by the time I actually needed to shave.
If you look at me I don't look androgenic at all, look like a babyface too, but apparently I pack a big gun..
So it doesn't matter how masculine someone looks. At the end of the day, your test level being up or down a bit due to lifestyle would have negligible effect (it took me until this point now, after 2 years of OCD about my shitty sleep patterns stunting my growth to realise its BS) .
Read those studies again. More test during pubrety just accelerated growth to adult size, until it eventually stopped. So it's safe to say if your natural hormone levels suffered a bit due to some lifestyle factors, that in theory, supplementing test to make up for that, would have no effect at all.
Waylander, did you see in a decrease in testicular size? I've read/ was told by my doctor that DHT can make them smaller
So what's the conclusion on this topic; DHT gel/cream to penis to increase size?
It sounds like it could only add size through EQ. Or how it could stretch tissues longer after natural growth has stopped?
It sounds like it could only add size through EQ. Or how it could stretch tissues longer after natural growth has stopped?
I've read through over 200 pages of DHT cream stuff here, on Thunder's, MOS, etc, etc. So far I've seen 18 guys with at least 50 posts(to exclude spammers) who used DHT creams(with about 400 dumbasses who aren't doing sh*t cluttering up the threads arguing with the people actually doing something), and of the 18 guys 13 of them gained at least 1/3". And about half gained 1/2", with only about 3 gaining 3/4". None gained an inch or more.
I also counted 10 guys who bought cream and used it for less than two weeks and quit. I consider that to be a useless non-trial.
Since about 1/2 of this thread's content is asking "WHERE CAN I BUY DHT CREAM!!!!!!!!!!!"
The answer is very simple. In North America, you can't. You'll have to make your own, because the one company that owns rights to Andractim hasn't produced it in 20 years.
Making my own DHT cream was not complicated. I just got DHT powder raws(which are usually no more than a couple of dollars per gram), and dumped it in a vitamin E cream from a random supermarket. If you're making your own, just make sure you know how much cream you're using per gram of DHT you're adding. So if you have 100g of cream, and 3g of DHT raws, after you dump it in the jar, you now have a 3% DHT cream.
Don't use DMSO. That will make it go from a topical that partially goes systemic, to a full systemic application and it won't work.
Will it cause hair loss/prostate cancer: It shouldn't. Not when applied topically. Only about 10% is absorbed, and only about 1/5 of that goes systemic. Applying 50mg topically, would only raise an average man's DHT levels by 20%. Considering the cream only appears to be effective for about 2-3 months, and up to about 0.5", a 20% rise in DHT should have almost no impact.
P.S. Do not PM me about where to buy DHT powder raws. Google is your friend. And the place I bought it from isn't even operating anymore.
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I also counted 10 guys who bought cream and used it for less than two weeks and quit. I consider that to be a useless non-trial.
Since about 1/2 of this thread's content is asking "WHERE CAN I BUY DHT CREAM!!!!!!!!!!!"
The answer is very simple. In North America, you can't. You'll have to make your own, because the one company that owns rights to Andractim hasn't produced it in 20 years.
Making my own DHT cream was not complicated. I just got DHT powder raws(which are usually no more than a couple of dollars per gram), and dumped it in a vitamin E cream from a random supermarket. If you're making your own, just make sure you know how much cream you're using per gram of DHT you're adding. So if you have 100g of cream, and 3g of DHT raws, after you dump it in the jar, you now have a 3% DHT cream.
Don't use DMSO. That will make it go from a topical that partially goes systemic, to a full systemic application and it won't work.
Will it cause hair loss/prostate cancer: It shouldn't. Not when applied topically. Only about 10% is absorbed, and only about 1/5 of that goes systemic. Applying 50mg topically, would only raise an average man's DHT levels by 20%. Considering the cream only appears to be effective for about 2-3 months, and up to about 0.5", a 20% rise in DHT should have almost no impact.
P.S. Do not PM me about where to buy DHT powder raws. Google is your friend. And the place I bought it from isn't even operating anymore.
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