Am I too small?

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LMAO

Aging bossboy. Ever heard of it?

You lose hair, grow hair in new places, etc etc ... you arent growing though .. people lie all the time ... and are mistaken all the time too ... especially when it involves penises
 

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Yeah, as soon as puberty is over we start the long slow road of dying...morbid I know. The upswing is that our dicks and ligs lose the elasticity and fight to stay the same size as we jelq and abuse them so they just give in and get bigger to accommodate.
 
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:( but aging is always happening. And growing hair is growing. All change is growing. When you grow you change from what you were to something more, whether that be more hair or more penis.

On second thought, fuck it. It doesn't really matter.
 

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That's just incorrect thenewdude.

On average, girls begin puberty at ages 10–11; boys at ages 11–12.[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP] Girls usually complete puberty by ages 15–17,[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][5][/SUP] while boys usually complete puberty by ages 16–17.


Straight from the top of wikipedia for "Puberty" ...



and hormones change hair growth or whatever, but deterioration is not growth bossboy ...
 

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That's just incorrect thenewdude.

On average, girls begin puberty at ages 10–11; boys at ages 11–12.[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP] Girls usually complete puberty by ages 15–17,[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][5][/SUP] while boys usually complete puberty by ages 16–17.


Straight from the top of wikipedia for "Puberty" ...



and hormones change hair growth or whatever, but deterioration is not growth bossboy ...

But that's the average

I don't have much facial or chest hair so I know I'm not quite done yet, so I thought that my penis isn't done growing yet. ?
 

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I'm 71 and I am still waiting for more facial and chest hair. Head hair is still full, just a different color. My belly, however, continues to grow.
 

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But that's the average

I don't have much facial or chest hair so I know I'm not quite done yet, so I thought that my penis isn't done growing yet. ?

.. Maybe your comprehension skills are poor like so many others here .. He said most stop between 17 and 21 and wikipedia said most stop between 16 and 17 ... there was nothing added by you saying but thats the average ...
 

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.. Maybe your comprehension skills are poor like so many others here ..

This was unnecessary. Please avoid using ad hominems in the future. Insults towards fellow members and informal fallacies are not welcome here. (I'm kidding about the informal fallacy part... a bit :p)

He said most stop between 17 and 21 and wikipedia said most stop between 16 and 17 ... there was nothing added by you saying but thats the average ...

What he was trying to say is that wikipedia only lists the average age at which puberty ends, which sits between 16 and 17, give or take. This does not represent the entire range of possible ages at which puberty ends in males.

The normal variation in the age at which adolescent changes occur is so wide that puberty cannot be considered to be pathologically delayed until the menarche has failed to occur by the age of 18 or testicular development by the age of 20.
- Excerpt from Wikipedia: Delayed puberty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you read through the above link, you will see that puberty has a very wide range. The average that is listed on the page you looked at (ages 16-17) is the mode, based off of the frequency of puberty's end in children; however, since the range is quite wide, this average does not readily demonstrate every common end to puberty. As my quote says above, final reproductive development is not considered 'Delayed Puberty' until the age of 20, a number that has been frequently referenced on this forum as the final finish line for puberty.

Given the above material, I'd say it is fair to assume that you may not be done puberty yet if you are below the age of 20, but the majority of individuals your age are, in fact, done.

Your length is fine, and your girth is a bit on the thin side compared to the averages. This does not mean you are too small, since 'too small' is relative to the desires and preferences of the woman you are involved with. PE is a personal venture. It can improve your sex life for you and your partner, but it is not really that important at the end of the day. Don't worry about whether your penis is too small or not. Instead, ask yourself if you would like to have one bigger, regardless of how much your woman enjoys it. If the answer is yes, then enjoy your stay and get jelqing :p

Just remember, comparing sizes will only hurt you. There are always bigger fish. If you PE, do it to reach your own goals, not another woman's, or society's, or anyone else's.
 
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I don't like ad hominems as much as you don't, but I felt like people getting pointed out there mistake in that way might try to not make it again ...



Let me break it down further.

Person A claims MOST people fall into a category that contradicts what WIKIPEDIA says because wikipedia said most people fall into a category below it.

Therefore person A's statement was according to wikipedia FALSE.

Restating that we're only talking about average did not in any way falsify my statement or add anything at all because Person A's whole post was about how the average guy (well ok he said most guys, but that's basically the same thing for the way he was meaning) was between 17 - 21 ... He was specifically talking about the average guys ... so again my refutation was unaltered by pointing out it's about averages ..... All I said was he was wrong about the average guy's range .. of course my post was about average guys
 

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There is no excuse for being mean to other members. They were trying to help, even if you found what they said wasn't helpful. Appreciate their posts for that fact, if nothing else.

While puberty tapers off around age 17 on average, 20 is still the final cut. The average, based on the mode, does not have that much higher a frequency than the low and high ends of the range. This means that the number of people who end puberty at 20 is still high, and should not be ignored.

Personally, I can relate to this group, since I started puberty very early, and ended rather late (19 or 20). Interestingly, my reproductive growth was one of the first things to occur during puberty and remained unchanged towards the end, when my shoulders finally filled out and I gained muscle mass (last thing to occur for me).

I am mentioning this because puberty is not a uniform path that everyone takes and conforms to. Puberty is different for everyone. If you start early, it doesn't mean you end early.The order things happen in can be a bit mixed up from person to person. When looking at your own situation, it is best not to draw from the average, especially given the individually unique nature of puberty itself.
 

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If you want to achieve a bigger size, now would be the best time to start PE to get to what ever your goal is. If it gets bigger then your goal, so be it. That's all the better.

While your body is still growing you will see better results doing PE, but if you wait until your body stops growing naturally and you are not satisfied with your penis size then start doing PE, It will just take that much longer to get to the size you want.
 

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I'm having a problem comprehending the last post.