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Parental Rights and Civil Wrongs: School-based Clinics and Abortion

And stop acting like a fucking asshole to everybody on this forum.
There's nothing wrong with that. It's clearly legal, so the girl has the right to get the abortion without her parents knowing and/or approving, and good on the school for helping her. I'd rather see a school help someone instead of deny any help to them. From what it seemed like, at least to me, what the person I quoted was hinting at was that there are schools who help get abortions illegally to minors.
 

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I'm generally "pro choice"........however, there are exceptions to my feelings:

1. I'm against abortion IF two people had sex and she got pregnant and they simply don't want the responsibility of being parents so they opt to abort. The OPPOSITE side of this is if they decide to have the baby and then abuse it because they didn't want a kid right now to begin with.........unfortunately, people don't have the ability sometimes to blame themselves for their actions and rather take their anger out on some poor, defenseless little baby.

2. As was stated above, if a father, step father or just a stranger rapes a woman and impregnates her, I believe an abortion should be allowed.

Again, I'm generally speaking a "pro choice" kind of guy but I do have exceptions in my book which would necessitate me being an advocate for an abortion.


I think if this happens they should be allowed to abort, I don't think it's right bringing a child in the world that isn't wanted and two people forced to be parents if they aren't ready or don't want the responsibilities that go with it. I think this is fine as long as it's not a regular occurrence and if it keeps happening she should be sterilised.
 

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I think if this happens they should be allowed to abort, I don't think it's right bringing a child in the world that isn't wanted and two people forced to be parents if they aren't ready or don't want the responsibilities that go with it. I think this is fine as long as it's not a regular occurrence and if it keeps happening she should be sterilised.

Or if it becomes a regular occurrence, still allow the mother to get an abortion, but by means of a big ass flight of stairs. Stupid must be punished.
 

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the headache comes from an overload of information triggered by saying something so open-ended as stupid must be punished. Books could be written on the uh "wrongness" of that statement both pertaining to this thread as well as just in general. Not to mention the fact that punishing stupid does not negate stupid and is therefore stupid and calls for punishment.
 

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Who's right is it to tell someone what they can or cannot do? I don't think it's anyones. I say fuck it... if you want one, get one. If not, don't. That simple.
I also think it should not just be the woman's choice. That's something that both parties need to discuss. I realize it comes out the mommy, but often daddy gets boned because mommy only has the baby so daddy will stay even though he doesn't want his life changed. Or at least this happens often with younger kids.
 

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Totally and 100% AGAINST abortion! Even in the case of rape, the child which was conceived doesn't deserve death because of how it came into being.
 

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Totally and 100% AGAINST abortion! Even in the case of rape, the child which was conceived doesn't deserve death because of how it came into being.

How about Ectopic pregnancies?
 

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Totally and 100% AGAINST abortion! Even in the case of rape, the child which was conceived doesn't deserve death because of how it came into being.


Who is going to look after the child? Even if it is put up for adoption it might never get adopted and spend its life in a kids home.

What about masturbation? Each individual sperm is unique, is it right to never give them a chance to impregnate and have no chance of life?
 
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How about Ectopic pregnancies?

Oh cmon now your just trolling, why are you a mod?


What about masturbation? Each individual sperm is unique, is it right to never give them a chance to impregnate and have no chance of life?

lmao, this is brilliant.
 

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Oh cmon now your just trolling, why are you a mod?

No, I am not trolling. It's a legitimate question. I'm curious if someone can be so against abortion that they would rather have the mother and fetus die than to have a life saving procedure done to save the mother's life. You've already shown that you would rather have the mother die than an abortion be performed, so I'm curious about kelthuzad1986's opinion.

If you don't want your views questions, don't make a thread airing them where they can be.
 
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lmao, this is brilliant.


You might find it funny but it's true with masturbation you are preventing a child from being born. If your father had a wank 10 minutes before you were conceived you would have never have been born. So you(as a sperm) would have died. I don't see how someone who masturbates can be against abortion, it's the male equivalent of abortion.
 
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Me I am 100% Anti-abortion.

I agree that people should not use abortion like it's a routine method of birth control and if you're 100% against abortion in your own personal circumstances, then that's fine by me. If you're 100% against abortion for everyone else (and actually have the power to do something to make that happen), then you can go f*ck yourself. You don't have the right to make that type of decision for another person. You must be young and exceptionally naive if you really think "many babies should be taken from their parents upon birth" is a solution to unwanted pregnancies.
 

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No, I am not trolling. It's a legitimate question. I'm curious if someone can be so against abortion that they would rather have the mother and fetus die than to have a life saving procedure done to save the mother's life. You've already shown that you would rather have the mother die than an abortion be performed, so I'm curious about kelthuzad1986's opinion.

If you don't want your views questions, don't make a thread airing them where they can be.

go read the thread. what your talking about isnt a pregnancy. its the equivalent of a cyst forming, so of course you remove the cyst. There is 0% chance of a baby being born in your ectopic pregnancy so killing it is not aborting anything. this has been stated multiple times. lol your own logic dictates its time for you to be punished :)

You might find it funny but it's true with masturbation you are preventing a child from being born. If your father had a wank 10 minutes before you were conceived you would have never have been born. So you(as a sperm) would have died. I don't see how someone who masturbates can be against abortion, it's the male equivalent of abortion.

more amusing then funny actually. this the type of post i was looking for and am always looking for when starting a thread, an actual thought that when read, makes a person think rather then spew out some cliched rant. my only argument is that there are millions (billions?) of sperm in each ejaculation. I am pretty sure enough sperm are lost, even when pregnancy is achieved, to populate the earth multiple times, but i see your point and am surprised I dont hear this argument more from those of a religious stance.

Remember no matter how shitty you think you are, you were actually the best of a monumental amount of tiny little sperm :)
 

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I agree that people should not use abortion like it's a routine method of birth control and if you're 100% against abortion in your own personal circumstances, then that's fine by me. If you're 100% against abortion for everyone else (and actually have the power to do something to make that happen), then you can go f*ck yourself. You don't have the right to make that type of decision for another person. You must be young and exceptionally naive if you really think "many babies should be taken from their parents upon birth" is a solution to unwanted pregnancies.

ahh..... the you dont have the right to make my decision for me argument. so selfish. so thoughtless. If i dont have the right to make the decision for you, how can you claim the right to make the decision for the unborn baby?..... or the right to tell me I cant tell you what to do. both are more hypocritical then masturbation :)
 

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Boy this stirred a discussion haha.

Ill throw in my 2 cents. I believe that abortion should only be used in certain situations. Situations like if a girl gets legitimately raped and shes gets pregnant, i feel like its unfair to the mother to go through pregnancy with a child of some fucked up person who going around raping people. I also feel like that would pretty unfair for the child to be born into living conditions that arent the greatest for for its development (orphanage, or unstable family environment).

On the other end, if the situation is some hood rat girl that would sleep with anyone and she ends up getting pregnant then i think she should live with the consequences. Sex is designed for making humans and and i think people these days are abusing that by sleeping around, not using protection, or whatever. If someone accidentally gets pregnant and it wasn't from a crime or anything like that then they should live with the repercussion rather than getting away with it and taking the easy way out and getting an abortion.
 
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