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I’ve been watching many beginners post extremely intense routines. Some are starting out with routines that are way too intense and some are intensifying their routines way too early. I hate seeing this happen because they are setting themselves up for failure which leads to frustration, lack of motivation, and eventual abandonment of PE all together. Not only that, but they are greatly increasing their chances at injury too.

So, starting tomorrow, I am personally going to become a beginner again. I’m going to do 90 days of a beginner routine and I hope some more people will join me. Beginners especially but veterans are also welcome to join in. Why do this? It’s simple: It’s time to demonstrate to beginners that even someone who as been at this for over 2 years can gain on a beginner’s routine - AND REQUIRE NO MORE THAN THAT. This is all I am going to do for 90 days:


  • 15 Minutes for Warm-up
  • 1 Set of 4-Way Flaccid bends (10 seconds each)
  • 20 JAI Stretches
  • 1 Set of 5-Way LOT stretches (30 second stretches)
  • 10 Circle stretches both left and right (20 total)
  • 7 Minutes of Wet Jelqing (OK grip - 5 second strokes)
  • 30 Minutes of edging [with absolutely NO porn]
  • 5 Minutes for Cool-down
  • DON'T FORGET TO KEGEL at 100-150 times every other day


(1) I am an advocate of a long warm-up so that’s not a typo where it says “15 Minutes.”

(2) We’ll do flaccid bends since I agree with Radiohead that these need to be added to a beginner’s routine. But they will be done first because you should be completely flaccid.

(3) We’re going to keep the Jelqing down because I believe that is where most people make the mistake of overtraining. 7 Minutes should equate to about 80 total jelqs (40 per hand) at 5 seconds per stroke.

(4) Edging is important and I don’t think enough people factor it in. But here’s the key. It is imperative that you refrain from watching porn while edging. Training yourself to become aroused, develop an erection, and maintaining that erection without the assistance of porn will greatly help your EQ. It might be tough at first, but give it time. If you want to blow your load at the end, that’s up to you.

(5) We’re going to COOL-DOWN, not warm-down. We use heat before we exercise. Cooling off after your session will help cement gains. Don’t use ice water. A cool damn rag will suffice. Freezing your dick off would be bad – really bad.



Remember – you will do THIS routine for 90 days. There will be no additions to it. There will be no waking up one morning and saying “Maybe I’ll jelq for an extra minute tonight.” No, you will NOT do that. Measure as often as you want. I personally only measure every 2 weeks because I think it adds to the hype. I put my ruler and tape in the car so I don’t feel compelled to sneak a measurement in there.


Again – If I can gain on this routine, ANYONE can – ESPECIALLY beginners. There are some veterans out there that could benefit from this routine as well. Too many of you are doing routines that are entirely too intense. I slipped up myself and started to do one. But that’s never happening again. Less is better in the game of PE. So, who’s with me?
 
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REMINDERS:

** Jelq Pressure: Keep it down! Imagine yourself jelqing an egg. If you jelq too hard, you'll break the egg. Do you want to break your dick?

** Stretching: Don't yank your dick off. Stretch hard enough to feel a pull, but if you experience pain, you're stretching too hard (DUH!)

** NEGATIVE PIs: Listen to your dick. Pain, extreme fatigue, blood, major discoloration, etc - STOP doing PE and find out what is going on!

** Cut Back: Although this routine is very very basic, if you still feel like it is too much, don't be afraid to cut back. Less is ALWAYS better.

** Logging: Make sure you keep a log. If not a progress log here, keep track of something on your computer or on paper.
 
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what is the frequency? how many days on and off?
 
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what is the frequency? how many days on and off?

Can't believe I forgot that part. Thanks for noticing.



2 DAYS ON --- 1 DAY OFF (no exceptions)
 
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Hey I am doing a routine similar to this one. Except I don't do flaccid bends. I am going to start cooling down from now on instead of warming down. Also will incorporate some flaccid bends in the middle of this month. I'm on a one day on one day off routine but think I'm going to switch it to two days on and one day off any thoughts??? I am doing the beginners ninety day routine that is on this forum. I warm up for 10 minutes minimum often exceeding the ten minute mark any thoughts??

January 2009 <start month stats> bpel 6.5 eg 6
February 2009 bpel 7 eg 6
short term goal bpel 8 eg 6.5
over all goal bpel 9+ eg 7+
 

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I’ve been watching many beginners post extremely intense routines. Some are starting out with routines that are way too intense and some are intensifying their routines way too early. I hate seeing this happen because they are setting themselves up for failure which leads to frustration, lack of motivation, and eventual abandonment of PE all together. Not only that, but they are greatly increasing their chances at injury too.

So, starting tomorrow, I am personally going to become a beginner again. I’m going to do 90 days of a beginner routine and I hope some more people will join me. Beginners especially but veterans are also welcome to join in. Why do this? It’s simple: It’s time to demonstrate to beginners that even someone who as been at this for over 2 years can gain on a beginner’s routine - AND REQUIRE NO MORE THAN THAT. This is all I am going to do for 90 days:


  • 15 Minutes for Warm-up
  • 1 Set of 4-Way Flaccid bends (10 seconds each)
  • 20 JAI Stretches
  • 1 Set of 5-Way LOT stretches (30 second stretches)
  • 10 Circle stretches both left and right (20 total)
  • 7 Minutes of Wet Jelqing (OK grip - 5 second strokes)
  • 30 Minutes of edging [with absolutely NO porn]
  • 5 Minutes for Cool-down
  • DON'T FORGET TO KEGEL at 100-150 times every other day

(1) I am an advocate of a long warm-up so that’s not a typo where it says “15 Minutes.”

(2) We’ll do flaccid bends since I agree with Radiohead that these need to be added to a beginner’s routine. But they will be done first because you should be completely flaccid.

(3) We’re going to keep the Jelqing down because I believe that is where most people make the mistake of overtraining. 7 Minutes should equate to about 80 total jelqs (40 per hand) at 5 seconds per stroke.

(4) Edging is important and I don’t think enough people factor it in. But here’s the key. It is imperative that you refrain from watching porn while edging. Training yourself to become aroused, develop an erection, and maintaining that erection without the assistance of porn will greatly help your EQ. It might be tough at first, but give it time. If you want to blow your load at the end, that’s up to you.

(5) We’re going to COOL-DOWN, not warm-down. We use heat before we exercise. Cooling off after your session will help cement gains. Don’t use ice water. A cool damn rag will suffice. Freezing your dick off would be bad – really bad.



Remember – you will do THIS routine for 90 days. There will be no additions to it. There will be no waking up one morning and saying “Maybe I’ll jelq for an extra minute tonight.” No, you will NOT do that. Measure as often as you want. I personally only measure every 2 weeks because I think it adds to the hype. I put my ruler and tape in the car so I don’t feel compelled to sneak a measurement in there.


Again – If I can gain on this routine, ANYONE can – ESPECIALLY beginners. There are some veterans out there that could benefit from this routine as well. Too many of you are doing routines that are entirely too intense. I slipped up myself and started to do one. But that’s never happening again. Less is better in the game of PE. So, who’s with me?

I with you, I need the motivation and coaching to stick with it.
 

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I'm in on this too! I have never done flaccid bends so I'll have to read about it. I have some questions though. How many fingers do you use on the flaccid bend? How much time does 1 circular stretch is supposed to take, about 10 seconds? Do I have to do the edging right after the routine? Or can I do it later (at night)? For how much time do you hold your kegels? I'm sorry but I'm an engineer so I tend to like precision, numbers :p I have tried a cool-down in the past and it always turtled my penis. Maybe the water was very cold I'll try again. :)
 
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REMINDERS:

** Jelq Pressure: Keep it down! Imagine yourself jelqing an egg. If you jelq too hard, you'll break the egg. Do you want to break your dick?

** Stretching: Don't yank your dick off. Stretch hard enough to feel a pull, but if you experience pain, you're stretching too hard (DUH!)

** NEGATIVE PIs: Listen to your dick. Pain, extreme fatigue, blood, major discoloration, etc - STOP doing PE and find out what is going on!

** Cut Back: Although this routine is very very basic, if you still feel like it is too much, don't be afraid to cut back. Less is ALWAYS better.

** Logging: Make sure you keep a log. If not a progress log here, keep track of something on your computer or on paper.

Man, it sounds like you were birthed out of my mind, great routine!
 

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I'm in on this too! I have never done flaccid bends so I'll have to read about it. I have some questions though. How many fingers do you use on the flaccid bend? How much time does 1 circular stretch is supposed to take, about 10 seconds? Do I have to do the edging right after the routine? Or can I do it later (at night)? For how much time do you hold your kegels? I'm sorry but I'm an engineer so I tend to like precision, numbers :p I have tried a cool-down in the past and it always turtled my penis. Maybe the water was very cold I'll try again. :)

(1) I use 4 fingers on my flaccid bends. You only need to use 2.

(2) My circle stretches take about 10 seconds

(3) No, you don't. You don't have to edge at all actually. I'm considering getting rid of the post-PE edging all together. I have always considered edging as a reward for successfully completing my PE session. And while I do believe it has its benefits, there is no real evidence that it actually helps you gain. Your exercises are what really do the work. I've all but solidifed the beginnings of a relationship with a girl here at school. I'm probably going to drop the edging and leave my erections to her ;)

(4) My kegels are quick. 1-2 seconds tops. I do long kegels sometimes (3-4 seconds) but not usually when I'm doing PE. I do long kegels in class actually or when I'm eating - anytime really. People can't really tell you are kegeling unless you have a hardon.

(5) Your water could be too cold. I use a damn rag that I run under cold water while I am heating my rice sock up. So, it's only damp by the time I use it. Turtling is not uncommon. The Bio-Oil helps that ;)
 

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ok,this sounds like something I want to do so I will.

Once I finish the JonPop 90 day beginner routine I'll take a week off and then launch into this for another 90 days.

I've really become an advocate of the 'less is more' theory aswell so something like this is right up my street,although I stay away from edging now because it was totally over-working my penis and messing up my erections. Saying that,edging was just an excuse for long periods of masturbation-WHILE WATCHING PORN- and seeing how close I could get to cumming without cumming....

I may try it out again after studying the 'edging 101' thread and only for 5-10 mins at the start,with no porn and following the advice of the 'pe vets' to the letter!!!!!
 

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Ok I'm with you too PE Success Guy! :D :D :D :D

I've just re-started my PE and am just in the process of getting my bits in place (lol that sounds dodgy). What I mean is that I've bought a heat pad (to help with my warm up's) and I've also bought some Bio-Oil as well :)

I'm going to do this by the book and be totally dedicated!

Here's to good gains :D
 

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Glad to see more people joining in! I've had two great workouts these past 2 days! Hope everyone else is too!
 

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I'm considering this workout after I complete the first 5-week beginner routine. Should I follow this one or the one you listed in your success story?

*10-Minutes – Warm Up
*Basic Stretching (left, right, straight out, straight up, left and right circle stretches)
*10-Minutes – Wet Jelqing (5 second strokes)
*I also kegeled 120 times while doing the routine along with 100-200 during the day
*This routine was done religiously on a 2 days on and 1 day off regiment.

Anyways, I've reading edging 101 but I don't really get it. Is it just masturbating but holding it in for 30 minutes?
 

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I am also going to join in on this, but unfortunately I don't know what some of these exercises are since they are not in the guides on the top of the screen. LOT stretches? I found out how to find your LOT in the sticky, but not what to do afterwards. Circle stretches? Not sure what those are. I'm beyond beginner :)
 

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I'm considering this workout after I complete the first 5-week beginner routine. Should I follow this one or the one you listed in your success story?

*10-Minutes – Warm Up
*Basic Stretching (left, right, straight out, straight up, left and right circle stretches)
*10-Minutes – Wet Jelqing (5 second strokes)
*I also kegeled 120 times while doing the routine along with 100-200 during the day
*This routine was done religiously on a 2 days on and 1 day off regiment.

Anyways, I've reading edging 101 but I don't really get it. Is it just masturbating but holding it in for 30 minutes?

That's the routine that I had my first year success with. You are welcome to do that one. That's a beginner's routine as well. I've recently seen the good in adding 100% flaccid Flaccid Bends and JAI Stretches to a beginner's routine. JAI Stretches are a great way to begin your stretching routine or end it. Flaccid Bends (while done 100% flaccid for beginner's) can probably greatly assist in girth gains and prepare you for advanced exercises down the road. The key is to not do advanced exercises and not over-jelq. Never ever ever jelq for more than 10 minutes - and I believe that to be true for beginner's, intermediates, and advanced PEers.

Edging is more complex than that in reality but what you described is how I always edged. I could never stay hard enough to edge with extremely little stimulation. I might also add that I have stopped edging after my routines. I'm trying to see if it really does help with gains. I'm inclined to believe that it does not.


I am also going to join in on this, but unfortunately I don't know what some of these exercises are since they are not in the guides on the top of the screen. LOT stretches? I found out how to find your LOT in the sticky, but not what to do afterwards. Circle stretches? Not sure what those are. I'm beyond beginner :)

LOT Stretches are just your basic stretches (left, right, up, down, straight out)

Circle Stretches are easy. Just grab your penis like a normal stretch, stretch it straight out, and move around in a circle. Do that like 10 times.
 

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PE Success Guy,

Just an update to say that I've had my first two sessions with your new routine and it felt good. I'm on my rest day today, but unlike my old routine, I do not feel sore at all today, so that's great :D

A few things:

1. I've started to warm up properly now and went out and bought myself a heat pack (that you heat into the microwave) and have found that it works REALLY well. I sat with it on for a good 20 minutes whilst I browsed the PE Gym to make sure I knew exactly what to do on your routine :)

2. The JAI Stretches do not really feel as if they are doing anything at all, but then I read that the point of them is to do them light, so I guess what I'm doing is fine (e.g. a light pull and hold 2 seconds).

3. At the end of my stretching, I do about 10 helicopter shakes, purely to "plump" myself up a bit and get the blood flowing around. I know that you said nothing should be changed from your routine, but do you think this is OK?

4. On my jelqs, I am doing a good 5 second slow and fairly soft jelq. However I'm doing it hard enough so that I can see my veins expanding as I move along my shaft. I also leave one hand just under the head of my penis as I begin my next jelq with my other hand. I then remove the hand at the top after about 3 seconds, or when my second hand has reached the middle of my penis. Again, this feels good and although I can feel a nice bulge and the blood flowing through, it is much more gentle than before.

When I finish, I've been putting a damp cloth on my penis for a good 5 minutes and I'm not turtling at all!

So all in all, I feel really good about this routine. I appreciate that I'm only a couple of days in and that Rome was not built in a day, but the signs are positive. I'm no longer sore, I'm not turtling and my general penis heath feels good!

Oh and I'm also using the Bio-Oil to jelq with which is fantastic!! :D
 

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I'd also like to get a heat pad. I have a rice sock but it doesn't last 15 minutes. What's a good head pad I can get off Amazon?
 

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I use a Sunbeam heating pad. Works pretty well for me, it's got a nice heat that's not too hot but makes my penis very soft and pliable, which I feel is a good time to work it. It's also an auto-switch rather than one you have to hold down, so you can leave it running to heat on its own.
 

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Flax Seed in your rice sock will hold heat for 45 minutes.