Luckily for you eliminating is very simple
you just need to stretch that skin so that you have extra skin so your scrotum doesn't get pulled up! Skin stretches WAYYYYY quicker than dicks do luckily 
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Luckily for you eliminating is very simple
you just need to stretch that skin so that you have extra skin so your scrotum doesn't get pulled up! Skin stretches WAYYYYY quicker than dicks do luckily Well the thing is, I dont know if its an issue. It doesnt cause any problems with comfort or condom use and etc, but I feel like it makes it look shorter from the underside. But, because of my past history with being a delusional idiot with penis related things, I cant tell if a woman would think it looked shorter because of it, or if its just me. I have some pics posted in my profile. None of them are very flattering but you will get the idea.
No partner has ever said anything, but I just (at least in my head) envision it looking smaller because of it. Its 6.75 bpel and 6 nbp and I see the underside as about 4 inches. Who knows.
Most guys agree that turkey neck makes the penis looks somewhat smaller. It's a pretty easy thing to get rid of though, do some searches and you should be able to figure out how to get rid of it
I cant even tell if mine is severe or not. I see pictures online that look way worse, but mine definitely doesn't look entirely normal. I don't know.
Turkey neck certainly makes it look smaller than it actually is, I have this same problem.
If you think yours is small, imagine mine. 6.0 BPEL, 5.5 NBPEL on a 6 foot 3 inch guy built at 210. Doesn't look huge, let me tell ya' haha. You're in a good position, throw in some PE to the mix and you'll be golden. Stay strong.
If you think yours is small, imagine mine. 6.0 BPEL, 5.5 NBPEL on a 6 foot 3 inch guy built at 210. Doesn't look huge, let me tell ya' haha. You're in a good position, throw in some PE to the mix and you'll be golden. Stay strong.
I don't normally look at pics of people's dicks but I made an exception for you your turkey neck isn't that bad. Just work on stretching the skin in that area, it should go away fairly quickly. In my opinion it doesn't make you look smaller
your turkey neck isn't that bad. Just work on stretching the skin in that area, it should go away fairly quickly. In my opinion it doesn't make you look smallerThank you. I can most likely chalk it down to another delusion in my own head haha. What else is new . I appreciate all the help. You guys are great.
. I appreciate all the help. You guys are great.Average seems to connotate less than desirable in most men's minds, and is propagated by everything we see in daily life. Sad thing is this will never change... I just feel pity/sorrow for the guys with less than average, now they really have something to gripe about.
Ya know, it seems many men with less than average do a lot less griping though. Funny how that works out.
Most of the ones that have found this place are probably too busy PE'ing to gripe!!!
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Most of the studies I've looked at come up with averages rather than the median--which is much more
meaningful to me. Kinsey et al wrote that (I believe his staff measured non-boned pressed), about 30 %
were 5.75" or less. About a quarter measured 6". Girth-wise, I believe the "average" is around 4.75" to
just under 5".
When I feel REALLY, REALLY insecure, I check out those studies again. :bad:
meaningful to me. Kinsey et al wrote that (I believe his staff measured non-boned pressed), about 30 %
were 5.75" or less. About a quarter measured 6". Girth-wise, I believe the "average" is around 4.75" to
just under 5".
When I feel REALLY, REALLY insecure, I check out those studies again. :bad:
Well, the kinsey study was self measured, and from a while back. He had people hold their own penises against postcards and report back.
Here is a nice detailed list of more modern studies, complete with links to the actual studies themselves.
Penis Size: The True Average - Th***er's P**ce Free Penis Enlargement Forums
Even the median of the lifestyles study, which has technically never been proven to be bone pressed or nbp because the official data was never actually released (however it was overseen by doctors making sure the nurses measured "properly", and medically "to the pubic bone" is the universal standard), the median was 5.65, meaning half under, half over. This was a volunteer study, most likely having people with something they thought was worth showing off. So the real average is expected to be even lower.
Also, I think one of the most valuable looks at penis size is the "pre pe erect length survey" over at thunders. They have had over 4000 respondents.
A large amount of people measured between 5.75 and 6.25 BPEL, leading to believe the average is somewhere around 5-5.5 nbpel, maybe even less depending on how fat most of the respondents were. 4000 respondents is (to my knowledge) the largest reliable survey on size. It is also self reported, but I feel like PE'ers would be less apt to lie or measure wrong that other self reported studies.
Still with this information, I worry that maybe the average is smaller because it is a PE website, potentially attracting a smaller sized audience. Who knows. Heres the link...
Pre PE length - Th***er's P**ce Free Penis Enlargement Forums
Here is a nice detailed list of more modern studies, complete with links to the actual studies themselves.
Penis Size: The True Average - Th***er's P**ce Free Penis Enlargement Forums
Even the median of the lifestyles study, which has technically never been proven to be bone pressed or nbp because the official data was never actually released (however it was overseen by doctors making sure the nurses measured "properly", and medically "to the pubic bone" is the universal standard), the median was 5.65, meaning half under, half over. This was a volunteer study, most likely having people with something they thought was worth showing off. So the real average is expected to be even lower.
Also, I think one of the most valuable looks at penis size is the "pre pe erect length survey" over at thunders. They have had over 4000 respondents.
A large amount of people measured between 5.75 and 6.25 BPEL, leading to believe the average is somewhere around 5-5.5 nbpel, maybe even less depending on how fat most of the respondents were. 4000 respondents is (to my knowledge) the largest reliable survey on size. It is also self reported, but I feel like PE'ers would be less apt to lie or measure wrong that other self reported studies.
Still with this information, I worry that maybe the average is smaller because it is a PE website, potentially attracting a smaller sized audience. Who knows. Heres the link...
Pre PE length - Th***er's P**ce Free Penis Enlargement Forums
I have trouble believing this also. I was a natural 6.75" BP and I still have trouble believing this is supposed to be above average. No woman has ever commented and I have always figured that is because it was pretty much the same size or smaller than they were used to. I think a woman is much more likely to say something if they are impressed than if they aren't. I am now more than 7" and it only occasionally looks half way impressive to me and pretty much looks like what I perceive a bone stock average member to look like. I would say to you feel lucky you are above average in girth. How many times have you heard it here that woman prefer girth to length? That never made me feel better but it should you.
It's weird man. I just don't get it. It's completely and utterly delusional to think otherwise when presented with 10+ studies on size, plus a 4000 vote self measured survey at Th***ers P**ce that puts the avg around 6 or less BPEL, to believe that the avg is still almost an inch above that. If someone was just an unbiased onlooker, they'd think we're cooks... and we most likely are. But it doesn't help the image in our minds.
I too feel that when faced with this mountain of information, all pointing to the same conclusion, I still do not believe it. I feel like everyone is either the same or bigger than me. But again, to think of 10+ studies plus a 4000 vote survey, all being wrong, lends me to believe the problem lies in our heads and not in our dicks. However that realization never helps me even though I am able to recognize that. Probably the only way I would ever actually get over this is if I saw a bunch of normal men erect in person, which, unless my life takes a crazy turn, will probably never happen.
One of the guys said earlier in the thread that he had a 6.75 bpel and got multiple comments on size. So I don't know what to believe. It would be logical to believe the studies and surveys instead of believing what men and women say by word of mouth, but I guess logic does not apply in our situation, because no matter how hard I try to look at it objectively, it never helps.
I too feel that when faced with this mountain of information, all pointing to the same conclusion, I still do not believe it. I feel like everyone is either the same or bigger than me. But again, to think of 10+ studies plus a 4000 vote survey, all being wrong, lends me to believe the problem lies in our heads and not in our dicks. However that realization never helps me even though I am able to recognize that. Probably the only way I would ever actually get over this is if I saw a bunch of normal men erect in person, which, unless my life takes a crazy turn, will probably never happen
. One of the guys said earlier in the thread that he had a 6.75 bpel and got multiple comments on size. So I don't know what to believe. It would be logical to believe the studies and surveys instead of believing what men and women say by word of mouth, but I guess logic does not apply in our situation, because no matter how hard I try to look at it objectively, it never helps.
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I'm not totally discounting the studies but the scientific evidence is supposed to be indisputable regarding man caused global warming yet there are numerous scientists who aren't being funded by government grants that would disagree. The scientific and medical community have been wrong before and for this and other reasons I will always have my doubts just like I will have my doubts over the "size doesn't matter" thing. I have come across too many examples of women saying it doesn't matter then finding examples from the same women saying things that makes it obvious that it does. Like I said just be glad your sporting good girth., that is where I feel I'm really lacking and really distrust what is supposed to be "average".
True. But there is reasons for scientists to sway each way on the issue of global warming, due to influence peddling, what have you. To believe that every single one of those studies mentioned is somehow trying to screw with our heads is a pretty crazy idea. But I'm with you man, I don't believe the average either. However, even if what you did say about scientists being wrong was true, how do you explain the thunders AND pegym pre pe erect length polls? They each (thunders with many more responders) put 6.75 bpel up in the 70+'th percentile. These are people responding like you and me. I think the most logical thing to believe, is that if the average that woman see is indeed higher, it is not because the studies of overall penis size are wrong, but moreso, those with lesser sizes tend to get around alot less. The average is brought downwards by whoever they measure under 5 inches, and brought upwards by whoever they measure over 7 inches. Guess which side of the scale is going to have the confidence to be sleeping with all the women in town... so imagine that average, without the 5 and under guys.
One other reason for our situation, if the AVG of the men shes seen is 5.5 nbpel, and you have/had around 6nbpel, I doubt a woman would make a stink over a half of an inch. Yes it is above average statistically, but I dont think women sit around saying, "Oh last night I had sex with a 6 inch penis, it was so nice compared to that 5.5 from last week" haha. She probably noticed it as larger, but just noticed it not as an above average penis, but a "penis" sized penis if that makes any sense. I think the practice of measuring our dicks in increments of .1 is purely a practice of our own, and only means anything to us in our minds, rather than anything substantially different.
For example, I (just turned 18 within the last couple of months) have recently met up with an old girlfriend from a year or so ago. Back when we were with each other, my dick measured about 5.5 nbpel and 6.2 bpel (on a good day). She said it was, and I quote, "The same", as the other dicks she has seen. She's relatively inexperienced so I don't think the girth played into that statement at all. Now, I recently met up with her within the last few months. Over the last year, I had lost about 30 lbs, but also (because my BPEL grew) must have also by some miracle grown a little more (before PE) . When she saw me last I was 6ish nbpel and 6.75 bpel. I could tell by a look in her eye that maybe she sensed something was different, but overall, she didn't sense anything different enough to say anything about it. It probably was still "the same" in her mind. It was a penis sized penis to her. That was it.
One other reason for our situation, if the AVG of the men shes seen is 5.5 nbpel, and you have/had around 6nbpel, I doubt a woman would make a stink over a half of an inch. Yes it is above average statistically, but I dont think women sit around saying, "Oh last night I had sex with a 6 inch penis, it was so nice compared to that 5.5 from last week" haha. She probably noticed it as larger, but just noticed it not as an above average penis, but a "penis" sized penis if that makes any sense. I think the practice of measuring our dicks in increments of .1 is purely a practice of our own, and only means anything to us in our minds, rather than anything substantially different.
For example, I (just turned 18 within the last couple of months) have recently met up with an old girlfriend from a year or so ago. Back when we were with each other, my dick measured about 5.5 nbpel and 6.2 bpel (on a good day). She said it was, and I quote, "The same", as the other dicks she has seen. She's relatively inexperienced so I don't think the girth played into that statement at all. Now, I recently met up with her within the last few months. Over the last year, I had lost about 30 lbs, but also (because my BPEL grew) must have also by some miracle grown a little more (before PE) . When she saw me last I was 6ish nbpel and 6.75 bpel. I could tell by a look in her eye that maybe she sensed something was different, but overall, she didn't sense anything different enough to say anything about it. It probably was still "the same" in her mind. It was a penis sized penis to her. That was it.
The biggest problem with all the guys saying their girls say they're small, is the internet. You look for porn and you'll find larger than average penis' all over the place. That and if you tell her you're 6" long, she'll think that's small because when guys mention their penis' in mixed company, they all say 8".
This wasn't much of a problem in my day. There was no internet when I went to high school and college. So I was only compared to the previous partner(s) of my gf's. Today, porn is so prevalent that it gives a really skewed perspective to people about what a body should look like.
This wasn't much of a problem in my day. There was no internet when I went to high school and college. So I was only compared to the previous partner(s) of my gf's. Today, porn is so prevalent that it gives a really skewed perspective to people about what a body should look like.
Have you found that most of the women you have been with have found your 6 bpel to be a common size?
