Tight muscles and retrograde ejac.?

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I have noticed that when my muscle behind my ball sack is tight, I get more involuntary kegels. Is there a connection?
Also, when I balloon, I can feel my urethra fill up with liquid. When I stop stimulation, I can feel it sort of "drain out." Is this a retrograde ejaculation?
 

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I have noticed that when my muscle behind my ball sack is tight, I get more involuntary kegels. Is there a connection?
Also, when I balloon, I can feel my urethra fill up with liquid. When I stop stimulation, I can feel it sort of "drain out." Is this a retrograde ejaculation?

Yes there is definitely a connection between this tight muscle (the pelvic floor) and the involuntary kegels. Those involuntary Kegels are spasms. They can rush you to ejaculation. The stronger and the more RELAX these muscles will be, the better control you'll have.

These muscles are like any muscles in the body, if they are overworked, subject to stress, imbalanced or over-strechting they will get contracted.
 

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Yes there is definitely a connection between this tight muscle (the pelvic floor) and the involuntary kegels. Those involuntary Kegels are spasms. They can rush you to ejaculation. The stronger and the more RELAX these muscles will be, the better control you'll have.

These muscles are like any muscles in the body, if they are overworked, subject to stress, imbalanced or over-strechting they will get contracted.

Is this true? i know reverse kegels have helped me. I used to only do regular kegels and masturbated too quick to porn. That caused me PREM EJAC. now that I am great at reverse kegels, is it really necessary to strengthen the reg. Kegels again? If so, why.... any proof? Or can I just stop doing reg kegels. Pegasus????
 

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I have allways believed in balance, the idea of the reverse kegel loaded routines is to help restore balance. While it is unusual in general society ,it is possible to unbalance your pelvic floor in the other direction through too many reverse kegels. Think of yin/yang. Now how do I know this? Because I did it, I did a reverse kegel only routine for an extended period and got too much yin so low libido, difficulity reaching orgasm etc. Minuteman did a more extensive and detailed experiment, contact him for more details.
My standard advice, is that if you have no pelvic floor issues you should do 30% reverse and if you have pre e you should do 50% for long term use. Now routines with over 50% reverse have their uses, but I never intended them for very long term use.
 

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I have allways believed in balance, the idea of the reverse kegel loaded routines is to help restore balance. While it is unusual in general society ,it is possible to unbalance your pelvic floor in the other direction through too many reverse kegels. Think of yin/yang. Now how do I know this? Because I did it, I did a reverse kegel only routine for an extended period and got too much yin so low libido, difficulity reaching orgasm etc. Minuteman did a more extensive and detailed experiment, contact him for more details.
My standard advice, is that if you have no pelvic floor issues you should do 30% reverse and if you have pre e you should do 50% for long term use. Now routines with over 50% reverse have their uses, but I never intended them for very long term use.

Low libido? What does that mean? Weak erections? I get hard erections very easily. Even when a girl just touches my leg. If a reverse only routine will make it hard for me to ejaculate then sign me up. I wound love to last like 45-60 min!!!! My question is... do reg kegels make less spasms cuz it makes the muscle stronger? I stop ponrs with reverse kegels. Reg kegels cause pre cum and make me ejaculate fast.
 
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Sigh, be carefull what you wish for! I can see you are going to do this james , at least the effects seem reversible. Keep a log.
 

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Sigh, be carefull what you wish for! I can see you are going to do this james , at least the effects seem reversible. Keep a log.

I added to my post. Scroll up.
 

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Here I am talking about your out of edging kegel/rk routine.
 

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Is this true? i know reverse kegels have helped me. I used to only do regular kegels and masturbated too quick to porn. That caused me PREM EJAC. now that I am great at reverse kegels, is it really necessary to strengthen the reg. Kegels again? If so, why.... any proof? Or can I just stop doing reg kegels. Pegasus????

It was just a general comment. I depends of the person and how their pelvic floor is. Like Pegasus says, it's all about balance. A strong but not flexible muscle is more likely to spasms.

In the past, I did too much Kegels and I started to have a lot of spasms. I recently integrated RK in my routine and I already see the benefits.
 

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JamesMonroe,

I believe what Pegasus is referring to is your regular daily Kegel-Reverse Kegel exercises apart from any edging/blooning practice or the like. And he is recommending that you continue to work out both muscles rather than just do all Reverse Kegel practice.

I see that you are saying that you use the Reverse Kegel during edging to stop PONR's. While so doing, do you reduce and/or stop stimulation as well or can you continue because of the reverse kegel?
 

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I'm glad my post stirred up so many comments! One more question: Whenever I am aroused, my pelvic floor muscles are very tight. Is this normal? Should i edge while sitting on a tennis ball to loosen these muscles?
 

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I'm glad my post stirred up so many comments! One more question: Whenever I am aroused, my pelvic floor muscles are very tight. Is this normal? Should i edge while sitting on a tennis ball to loosen these muscles?

Your goal is to have your muscle as much relax as possible all the time, including when you are aroused. Thight muscles when arouse can rush you to ejaculate. I never tried edging with a tennis ball, but it looks like a good idea. Try it.

I already tried breathing exercises with a tennis ball and it helped me!
 

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How do I know when it is relaxed? Usually when I edge it is rock hard.