Injecting PGE1 (Caverject) and Papaverine into the corpora cavernoa

[CUSP82]

No you are not.One thing I'll never do is get in a fight with any guy that sticks a needle into his dick; that guy has to be so fricking tough he'd kill me in a fair fight! ( of course I don't fight fair-NRA member!)

 

[shane_syndrome]

Hi.

As per your procedure above, I do see the value in:

1) 10 mcg of IGF (IGF1 lR3?) intracavernously
2) 2.5 mcg of Caverject intracavernously
3) 10 to 14 IU of Papaverine per 20 mcg (bottle) of Caverject to intensify the erection.

but don't understand the value of the DHT. Can you explain how this improves on the 1, 2, and 3 above? Have you observed that it makes a difference?

there was a study done on rats , saying that injecting DHT increased penis volume more then testosterone but did not increase sex drive as much ... I couldnt read the graph , they used weird symbols lol .

but other then that theres 100s of studys that say DHT is one of the causes of penis growth

 

[shane_syndrome]

about ronielle , Im not impressed with his length gains (sure he has a huge dick) but he only gaind 2 inches in a year and a half of length I dont think thats very impressive but his girth gains is what Is very impressive ... I am trying to find a chemical that will help more with length gains sure all these help but I think there mostly for girth

 

[ssa5522]

about ronielle , Im not impressed with his length gains (sure he has a huge dick) but he only gaind 2 inches in a year and a half of length I dont think thats very impressive but his girth gains is what Is very impressive ... I am trying to find a chemical that will help more with length gains sure all these help but I think there mostly for girth

Well yes, about that you are correct. Although maybe it is because Ronielle spends hours jelqing along his PE routine. He also uses something called the Divo Cup as an All Day Stretcher, maybe he could include manual stretches to increase length too.
Is injecting Testosterone directly into the penis possible?

 

[Darren]

Caverject

Caverject

Hi SSA5522

Guess I need to make a trip over there!! I use a 1cc syringe and fill it half way, wich if im correct 1ml and
1cc is the same so 0.50 to 0.75ml is what i have to use to get good response. You shouldnt need a cock ring at all. Your penis exhausted shouldnt matter, But this goes back again to what i said about being careful, sometimes
I get good response and sometimes not as good. I dont throw mine away, I put it in the fridge in a sealed bag.
Always wipe the top with alcohol pad before sticking the needle in. It will keep for up to 2 weeks after mixing.
I can not find the link to the web site where I found potaba. Can't believe I let it get away. Will keep looking.
Remember if you get a erection longer than 4 hours running up and down steps helps. I am curios what you have to pay for caverject.

 

[Pumper]

Hi Pumper,

Yes I inject PGE1 (caverject) For a 4 hour erection every day. I took potaba by mouth and after a week
I wanted to eat all the time(lowered my blood sugar). I believe Ronielle is correct that mixing potaba in DMSO
and applying it to the penis is better. Yes Potaba loosens the cross linkage of the colligan in the tunica. Potaba
was in fact originally made to help a woman stretch better while giving bIrth. Relaxin was made for the same thing except relaxin is a injectable that as far as i know is no longer made. Adding papaverine does indeed give a stronger erection. The only papav that I can find is made in Europe. 10 ampoules to a box. It is sh*t!
2 or 3 good ampoules to a box. Papav and Caverject gives me a hard throbbing erection for about 4 hours,
gets somewhat painful after the first hour. The papaverine I got was 50IU per Ampoule.
1 IU = 100mcg
10 IU = 1000mcg You can go to google and type IU to MCG and find calculators.
I use an autoject with 1cc syringe, I go up to number 30 with caverject and up 15 of Papaverine.
Hope this answers your questions, and again I must say to you also, Take your time, respect the medicines, they can leave you with a priapism from hell if your not careful! Dont want to sound like a dad, but I do not want anyone to think that its as easy as injecting chemicals a few times and coming out with a horse cock.
I will help all i can but learn all you can. Knowlage is the key!

See Ya

Hi Darren.

Thanks for the many facts and observations. I appreciate the information density.

I will look about online for the Potaba, and buy some. Can you suggest a vendor? Is there a specific form you prefer? I will use it with 90% DMSO gel, during my usual pumps, and later when I inject the Caverject and Papaverine (still many weeks away). I found my Papaverine at PharmacyEscrow.com. The company seems to be legit. The customer service has been very good, tight, and accurate so far: I send an e-mail (about anything), and I get an intelligent acknowledgement. I have also talked on the phone to a fellow there named Kevin. I chatted with him as well online. His accent is thick, but he is persistent and helpful.

Patent http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7671091.html mentions relaxin. I have not been able to find it. I seek information on any topical or injectable that can soften tunica collagen. I do not want to be forced to inject a collagen softener (collagenase or similar reducer of cross-linking) locally into the tunica itself, as the patent mentions. This will take needle-aggravation to a new level, and eventually stop the entire injection routine. I hope to succeed with a topical DMSO adjunct, like the Potaba. Do you know of any other possible topical adjuncts? Can I inject a relaxant of some kind into the CC (where depth of penetration is easy to estimate) and be assured that it will reach the tissue of the tunica? I have my doubts about this, which is why (I think) local injections into the tunica are suggested.

I'm concerned now about quantities. I bought

194.99 1 X CAVERJECT PREFILLED SYRINGE 20MCG 5
257.99 1 X PAPAVERINE INJ 120MG 10X10ML

This is how it is expressed in the e-mail acknowledgement.
If 1 IU = 100 mcg of Papaverine, then 10 IU = 1 mg (1000 mcg). When you say you use the autoject device set to number 30 for Papaverine and to 15 for Caverject, what are the units for those numbers. Are these IUs?

I am trying to anticipate the other injectables I will need and send off an additional order, if I must, to get everthing back at about the same time. I'm convinced from Ronielle's, Jackxxx's, and your reports, that the Caverject and Papaverine are going to give me all the vasodilation I can handle and then some (pain). I have done a huge amount of pumping since 1993 and understand pump when induced from the outside. The vasodilation will be more intense but easier to acheive. Depending on the discomfort I'm dealing with at time, I may try some gentle pumping. (I'm looking forward to this experiment.) If that intensifies the pain, I will wait for total relaxation of my shaft, and then do the pumping--which should still produce a remarkable expansion, given how micro-torn the CC cell-lattice will be.

I'm not as clear on what to do about IGF1 LR3. First, I don't know where to buy it, whether I need a script to get it, or what to say to my GP to persuade him to give me a script, if I do need one. I really would like to have some local IGF1 LR3 in the shaft during the intense pump/micro-tearing. This looks optimal. On the other hand, I'm healthy and can make *enough* IGF1 for whatever repairs might be needed. Still I think a mild superabundance in the shaft bonding to all available receptor sites would be optimal.

I am completely undecided about the androgen creams, such as the Andractim.

So my focus now in on the Caverject, Papaverine, Potaba with 90 % DMSO gel, applied topically, and IGF1 LR3 if I can figure out how to get it and how to dose it.

One final thought. The pain during CC expansion is going to be what limits my growth per session. Key I think is preparing the tunica. I have several weeks and should do anything I can to soften it and test its ability to stretch with a few intense pumps. I made it to my 2.75"-diameter cyclinder last night, starting with a 2.25". Just before I stopped this 3-hour session, the shaft was filling to the wall at the base and up about 3 inches. Beyond that the shaft tapers naturally and pulls away from the wall a little. Lots of blood and lots of lymph. The injections will take the lymph out of this operation, which is really what I'm trying to do. Collagen relaxants are looking more and more important to the success of the injection, not because I can't stretch my tunica, but because I may not be sufficiently inclined to tolerate that much pain for such a long duration, to stretch my tunica. I measured by pumped girth at 7.5" at the corona. I think I can reach 8" pumped girth solid (no lymph) with injectables, the first time. I should be able to reach 9" girth comfortably after a number of repetitions. This should increase CC cell counts in the radial direction. We shall see.

 

[Darren]

Dht

Dht

Found a chinese source for DHT powder for injection but afraid to try it.

 

[Pumper]

Found a chinese source for DHT powder for injection but afraid to try it.

Interesting. Scary. Can you tell us more about the source?

 

[Darren]

Pumper

Pumper

Hi Pumper,

Sorry I can not find the link in favorites of my computer of where i got my potaba. Was a year ago.
Will keep looking. I got the 500mg capsules. Yes I have heard of pharmacyEsgrow. I dont think you would
want to inject the relaxin, the Caverject injections are enough to make one sore. There are creams that are made to be carriers to get medicines into the skin, but I do not know about them. I would not recommend
injecting a relaxant. Relaxin is the only one I know of that was made to be injected. The trouble with caverject is the expense. PGE1 from china is much cheaper but hard to know the quality. IU, mcg, ect confuses me!
I use the autoject 2. I place a 1cc syringe inside the autoject 2. Autoject® 2 - Owen Mumford Products - Owen Mumford Ltd.
The 1cc syringe is marked 1 to 100. I fill the syringe to 30 with caverject and go 15 more of papaverine.
Sorry I am not very scientific. Yes you will get plenty of vasodilation! IGF1, just do a google, its easy to get.
I used andractim, didnt help. I may be wrong but I do not think enough of the dht gets into the penis to do much good. Again i think it depends alot on the person. If you can spare the money then try it.

See Ya

 

[shane_syndrome]

Well yes, about that you are correct. Although maybe it is because Ronielle spends hours jelqing along his PE routine. He also uses something called the Divo Cup as an All Day Stretcher, maybe he could include manual stretches to increase length too.
Is injecting Testosterone directly into the penis possible?

yes , but just suspension and I am willing to bet it will be one of the most painfull things you have done in your life

 

[Pumper]

Hi Pumper,

Sorry I can not find the link in favorites of my computer of where i got my potaba. Was a year ago.
Will keep looking. I got the 500mg capsules. Yes I have heard of pharmacyEsgrow. I dont think you would
want to inject the relaxin, the Caverject injections are enough to make one sore. There are creams that are made to be carriers to get medicines into the skin, but I do not know about them. I would not recommend
injecting a relaxant. Relaxin is the only one I know of that was made to be injected. The trouble with caverject is the expense. PGE1 from china is much cheaper but hard to know the quality. IU, mcg, ect confuses me!
I use the autoject 2. I place a 1cc syringe inside the autoject 2. Autoject® 2 - Owen Mumford Products - Owen Mumford Ltd.
The 1cc syringe is marked 1 to 100. I fill the syringe to 30 with caverject and go 15 more of papaverine.
Sorry I am not very scientific. Yes you will get plenty of vasodilation! IGF1, just do a google, its easy to get.
I used andractim, didnt help. I may be wrong but I do not think enough of the dht gets into the penis to do much good. Again i think it depends alot on the person. If you can spare the money then try it.

See Ya

I see. You inject .30 CC of Caverject and another .15 CC of Papaverine. That's .45 CC, almost half of the syringe in one injection. Reasonable. Do you inject at the base about where the ligs attached, or do you go further down toward the root of the penis, and inject through the scrotum skin? I was planning on injecting as low as possible.

I could not find IGF-1 on PharmacyEscrow.com, and they seem like a very liberal bunch. I will search some more. If anyone has a reliable source of IGF-1 LR3, please let me know. I have followed the IGF-1 efforts of Iguana and he never seem to have the real thing. So I'm concerned about buying bogus drugs.

 

[Darren]

Igf

Igf

Yes .30cc caverject and .15 papaverine. Even then sometimes I stay hard anywhere from an hour to
four hours. Another reason I say its tricky. I never know for sure. I seen a video on the caverject web
site saying to inject about midway, so thats what i have been doing. I think I will try at the base.
I will see what I can find for you. Ya I hear there is bogus stuff out there.

Bye

 

[shane_syndrome]

IGF is easy o find if you know where to look ... try looking for reputable steroid sources and most of them will have legit IGF on hand

 

[ssa5522]

Hello SSA5522

"DMSO is easy to find here. Do a search on google. DMSO,Dmso Cream,Dmso Gel,Liquid Dmso,Dmso Roll on,Dmso with Aloe Vera,Pure Dmso,Buy Dmso. I use the 70% cream with Aloa Vera, keeps the skin from drying out. Potaba is made to loosen the Tunica so it can stretch more. I think it is worth the money.
Yes I use potaba 500mg pills. I open the pills and mix it in the dmso cream. I inject then when hard i apply the dmso/potaba cream to my penis. The truth is that I only jelq about 5 minutes before injecting. More would
most likely be better. You are correct that UI's differ from one medicine to another. Again one more reason I warn people to go slow and start with small amounts of PGE1 ect.

See Ya

Hey Darren, thanks for the DMSO source. Today I just got my 70% DMSO gel, I just gotta find the Potaba. I'm afraid I can't get any here in Mexico. Do you have a source I can get it from that's reliable? Thanks for your help.

Starting on Monday, with or without the Potaba, although I hope I can get it somewhere.

 

[Darren]

Potaba

Potaba

Sorry I can not seem to come up with where i got potaba. Cant believe i lost that link.
I do remember the place being in the UK.

 

[shane_syndrome]

well one of us will find the source for it one day , hopfully soon

 

[Darren]

Pge1

Pge1

Ordered PGE1 and have Papaverine. Also got Potaba and DMSO.
Found DHT powder but dont know about using it. Working on a web site that will have links to information
related to Pe and related subjects such as cell growth ect. Anyone have any links? Also will have the video
for a short time.

Darren

 

[CUSP82]

So what if you get a bogus drug and inject it into your dick and it causes permanent damage? What happens then?

 

[Pirate]

That thought makes my skin crawl.

 

[CUSP82]

It gives turtling a new name. My dick would run and hide in my ass if a caverject was coming at it!