Seeking Help with My Premature Ejaculation

[kidwithPEproblems]

Yes Pegasus I don't think my pelvic floor is relaxed enough, so I have a routine of reverse kegels, but I find these are difficult as I will reverse kegel while masturbating, but then immediately come out of the reverse kegel with an uncontrolable regular kegel. Guess my reverse kegels just need more work, but I find I can control my pelvic muscles a little bit while im not that excited (level 5 or 6) by just consciously lowering my stomach.

blulite: Thanks for the advice, and I'll try very hard not to excite my self so much that I get this precum in the first place because I know I can avoid it. The fact that it only took you just over a month to overcome your problem is really inspiring, as I find myself getting just a little down now a days when I hear my friends talk about when they've had sex :/

Also I know this probably won't help, and I will be sticking to my reverse/reg kegel excersise and edging routine but the question still lingers in my mind: If I were to "ignore" the problem, and not have any sex or masturbate for an extended period of time (say 6 months or so) is it possible that my body could forget the fast habits I've learned. I'm not going to try it cause it could just be a waste of 6 months when my cure could just be that same time away, but it is just a thought that I wondered what other peoples opinions on the matter would be.
A Kid a more informed and hopeful thanks to Pegasus and blulite

 

[kidwithPEproblems]

Update: I went for twenty minutes today, without porn but small minimal fantasies (as soon as I think of them, I like instantly raise to at least an excitement level of just below 9 and then coming onto PONR). At the twenty minute mark I got some precum so i stopped :/ .
Anyways I found at the start that my kegels were out of control, so I did some deep breathing while I reversed kegeled which helped ALOT.
However, I find it is really easy to reverse kegel on the in breath, but very difficult to do this on the out-breath, as my stomach wants to go down as my diaphragm pushes it, but my reverse kegel action prevents it. So in its place, I just tried to lower my stomach and relax my kegel, but this methode does not work when I get really excited. I am able to hold a normal kegel for a while, but does anyone have any advice for holding a kegel while taking a deep breath out? or do I just need more practise on my reverse kegel...

 

[Pegasus]

Practise.

 

[kidwithPEproblems]

I tried again today using fantasies, but only lasted about 20 sec, and had to pull a hard kegel to stop myself. I couldn't physically stop myself from kegeling. I know this takes time, but I don't want to be stuck with this for years of my life and this is begging to look a little bit hopeless.

 

[Pegasus]

Tell me your kegel routine.
You first posted 4 days ago ,you will need to give it time.

 

[kidwithPEproblems]

Yes I realize haha last night was just a real quicky
My kegel routine is somewhat varying, as I do it in class when I get time Im pretty busy outside of school blah blah blah)
I do a number of 30 sec kegel holds, usually about 6 or 7, and then a couple 15 sec ones
After each kegel I try to reverse kegel, usually fro about 30 seconds, but lately I've been trying to practice breathing while doing the reverse kegel.
Oh and I've been doing this routine for past week and a half, but I only do this on school days, so 5 days per week.
Now that I have said this I realize I haven't been at this very Long!

 

[kidwithPEproblems]

Okay have a little bit of another issue come up, I went past PONR today and held a kegel to stop myself from ejaculating. However, just after a red spot appeared near the base of my shaft, but it doesn't hurt and is not a bump or anything. It is about a couple millimeters in diameter. I suspect is is a capillary that has burst or something. Has anyone had this happen to them before?

 

[naturesucks]

Have as much sex as possible, as often as possible, to desensitize yourself from the rush and excitement of being with a girl (you said you only get some every couple of months). If after this it still doesn't work, read my thread and try to get something useful out of it.

 

[kidwithPEproblems]

Hey I read your thread and experience symptoms very similar to yours. I believe that over excitement comes with porn and my fantasies when I masturbate, and therefore when I start again (after I get over this what I'm convinced is a broken blood vessel on my shaft), I will focus on relaxing and reverse kegeling my pelvic muscles, but prolong the time as long as possible in between when I start and stop for the first time (due to me being close to PONR). This will take some effort tho, as I need to almost get more comfortable about women and sex so that I am not as excited so easily that the thought in my head of my last blow job does not give me the urge to ejaculate so quickly. Therefore, perhaps I should become more used to viewing porn and not masturbating, but just trying to keep my boner under control, and use this casual viewing as training for not becoming so excited with my future sexual encounters.
Any thoughts?
and is a red spot but not bump or pain likely to be a broken blood vessel?

 

[Pegasus]

Red spot is usually a sign of slight overwork in Penis exercise.

 

[kidwithPEproblems]

yeah I'm giving it a break and focusing on my kegels and reverse kegels. There is no pain however, or bump or swelling of any sort. It is totally underneath the skin and got a little smaller since yesterday
I have a question however:
Should I continue to use porn to become more used to sex and less excited? I can't masturbate with porn efficiently enough to have a quality edging workout, as I become too excited (the same can be said with fantasies)

 

[naturesucks]

Hey I read your thread and experience symptoms very similar to yours. I believe that over excitement comes with porn and my fantasies when I masturbate, and therefore when I start again (after I get over this what I'm convinced is a broken blood vessel on my shaft), I will focus on relaxing and reverse kegeling my pelvic muscles, but prolong the time as long as possible in between when I start and stop for the first time (due to me being close to PONR). This will take some effort tho, as I need to almost get more comfortable about women and sex so that I am not as excited so easily that the thought in my head of my last blow job does not give me the urge to ejaculate so quickly. Therefore, perhaps I should become more used to viewing porn and not masturbating, but just trying to keep my boner under control, and use this casual viewing as training for not becoming so excited with my future sexual encounters.
Any thoughts?
and is a red spot but not bump or pain likely to be a broken blood vessel?

I think this will not work. You are still watching a screen, not same thing. Again, try to get laid as much as possible, the hotter the girls the better, so you put yourself under high pressure. The more you do it, the less impact it will have on you, and the more control (of course, the girl being as hot as possible is always a good thing, lol).
Guess why the guys doing porn have amazing control and don't freak out when they fuck those hot-ass girls? Cos they are trained already, they are fucking athletes.
If you can't get hot girls that easy, try searching for a scort. You can fuck super hot girls for 120€ an hour. When I was 18 I did it a couple of times. It was the sh*t, money well spent, lol. Nowadays I can get them free, too bad im still cumming pretty quick. Working on it.

Btw are you circumsized? Hows your frenulum (tight or not)

 

[kidwithPEproblems]

Yeah I can't really do an escort (pretty sure that's illegal in Canada and having sex with prostitutes just seems kinda wierd to me, I'm also a student so I'm always broke).
Not circumsized but I don't have any negative effects because of this (I don't precum unless I stimulate myself so no worries there)
I dunno about my frenulum, it never has felt tight before, and I can peel back my foreskin all the way past my head, but the frenulum isn't loose when I do so I guess...

 

[naturesucks]

Yeah I can't really do an escort (pretty sure that's illegal in Canada and having sex with prostitutes just seems kinda wierd to me, I'm also a student so I'm always broke).
Not circumsized but I don't have any negative effects because of this (I don't precum unless I stimulate myself so no worries there)
I dunno about my frenulum, it never has felt tight before, and I can peel back my foreskin all the way past my head, but the frenulum isn't loose when I do so I guess...

Dude are you serious? Escorts are more than the typical vulgar prostitute. Most are models aswell, some have high studies. If Canada doesn't allow escorts just move to another country cos that sucks lol.

About frenulum, if you can't pull the foreskin all the way back and the frenulum doesn't stay 100% normal and not tight, I would go to a good urologist and get it checked just in case. If the gland starts to sort of bend then it's definitely tight and that means surgery time.

 

[Pegasus]

Wow I am not a starving student but I don't know about 120euro for a prositute. Lucky I am happily partnered.
Anyway kid you are going along fine no need dor anything like that.

 

[kidwithPEproblems]

Okay so I find that a have a little pulse while i reverse kegel between my anus and balls so I assume this is a subconscious kegel and cause to my premature ejaculation? Also when I get excited, I just start kegeling uncontrollably and while I reverse kegel this pulse becomes worse. Does this pass with more control on the reverse kegel or is this pulse normal?

 

[Pegasus]

Between your anus and balls you should get a feeling of expansion when you reverse kegel, this is the back version, aka reverse root lock. When you do the front version (piss faster) it is normal to activate the back version as well, until your control improves.

 

[kidwithPEproblems]

Okay, but when I am not reverse kegeling, I find that when I masturbate there is a little pulse on this area between my balls and my anus (i assume this is a subconcious kegel). Is this normal or have I conditioned myself to do this?
Also I find that when I am flaccid, and I pull back my foreskin and then put it back (as if I'm masturbating), I get the exact same pulse. Is this normal as well?

 

[Pegasus]

If this pulse is like an inward contraction ,it sounds like involantary kegels as you suggest. A number of guys talk of low level background tension/ background kegels. My theory is that this is a result of muscle imbalance/tension caused by lifestyle factors.

 

[kidwithPEproblems]

I don't mean to be asking really personal questions or anything, but if you confortable answering this: Do you ever experience this pulse during sex Pegasus?