I think this is a really cool idea. Obviously needs a bit of tact and care, but yeah, I like this. With the note.
How to let your son in on PE
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I think this is a really cool idea. Obviously needs a bit of tact and care, but yeah, I like this. With the note.
I don't know...I think it kind of goes against the whole bond thing and doing the right thing here- Where, if you must talk to your son about PE, at least make sure he is getting good firsthand advice on it.
Leaving the book for your son is a good way to introduce PE to your son and "break the ice" on the subject, but then I think it's important to have those continued talks after that. At first it may be a little uncomfortable, but after a while it'll be normal. I base that on my friends and family that I've told about PE and all of them are cool with it, even if they don't do it.
As for not wanting them to see what you post, I would imagine that since they're adults 1. they can handle it. and 2. if they find stuff they don't want to see, they won't read it. I wouldn't worry too much about that at all. They are men with sexual urges just like you and realize that couples have sex.
As for not wanting them to see what you post, I would imagine that since they're adults 1. they can handle it. and 2. if they find stuff they don't want to see, they won't read it. I wouldn't worry too much about that at all. They are men with sexual urges just like you and realize that couples have sex.
That would of made me feel really weird to have someone put a book on my bed for me to read. What if he thinks that you know he has a small penis??? Not a good idea. This is not a topic, it should be a small conversation attached to the sex topic. My dad never said anything to me about sex, and it would have made me feel weird if he started to when I turned 15 or 16 years old. I think that I will be very honest and open with my kids as much as I can about sex and related topics. It is the greatest gift that we recieve as humans, and the same for all other animals. For some reason we have been taught to feel ashamed about our sexuality. I thought I was gay because I liked touching myself. Even though I was thinking about women, I was stroking a penis. I was 17 before I admited that I masterbate to my friends. It is human nature and I dont want to shy away from it. I don't know if it is right or wrong, but it is what it is, and it is what you make it. I'm 33 now, I wish I would've found out about it when I was a lot younger.
That's the thing...
I don't know how you would deal with a father/son situation. I didn't really have one so I had to find out most of my stuff on my own. But my mom told me when I was probably 7 or 8 years old that if I ever had a question about my "private parts" that i should ask her without fear. "I'd rather you learn it from me than out on the streets" is what i remember she told me.
So I've always had an open line, and I used it from time to time. I asked her what a Condom was when she told me that because I'd heard my older sister talking about it before. She told me exactly what it was, told me how it was used and I was totally flabbergasted as a child, but I knew that if I had any more questions, that I could ask...
I think that should be the age you get at your kids, it worked for me. I just wish I had a male figure around to help me learn about myself.
The book idea was good to me because I saw it as opening the discussion up. I would later ask him if he received it and got a chance to look at it. Personally, if it was done to me, I would be weird about it but as soon as I was asked about it, i would have many questions and look for more information... That's just the type of person I am. you introduce me to something new I want to know about it LOL!
I don't know how you would deal with a father/son situation. I didn't really have one so I had to find out most of my stuff on my own. But my mom told me when I was probably 7 or 8 years old that if I ever had a question about my "private parts" that i should ask her without fear. "I'd rather you learn it from me than out on the streets" is what i remember she told me.
So I've always had an open line, and I used it from time to time. I asked her what a Condom was when she told me that because I'd heard my older sister talking about it before. She told me exactly what it was, told me how it was used and I was totally flabbergasted as a child, but I knew that if I had any more questions, that I could ask...
I think that should be the age you get at your kids, it worked for me. I just wish I had a male figure around to help me learn about myself.
The book idea was good to me because I saw it as opening the discussion up. I would later ask him if he received it and got a chance to look at it. Personally, if it was done to me, I would be weird about it but as soon as I was asked about it, i would have many questions and look for more information... That's just the type of person I am. you introduce me to something new I want to know about it LOL!
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I really think that you might be on to something here not2big, because if you think about it, the penis goes trough growth during puberty, and anything that requires sufficient growth throughout life and more importantly puberty, requires good nutrition its alot like height. For example, As a child, when I lived with my mother, I had very good nutrition, my mother always made sure that I got adequate vegetables, meat and milk, and she made me take my viatimins, and I was also a very avid swimmer. I remember when going to see the doctor when I was 9 or 10 the doctor commented on how I had grown a lot in the time span and he told my mom that if my lifestyle had continued the way it was, he predicted that my final adult height would be 6'1"-6'2". Well, when I was 13 I started going through a rebeliuous phase and went to go live with my dad and well, needless to say I did not recieve adequate nutrition, and to top things off, my childhood active lifestyle had disappeared, I ate whatever I wanted, stopped taking viatimins and I was not active one bit, in fact I was very lazy, Today Im just over 5'11". With regard to penis size and nutrition, I feel that the same thing applies, all through puberty, as I stated I was fat and lazy, and as I result, I topped at 5.8x4. So I do think that lifestyle has a large part to do with it, how you turn out in size, spearheaded by gentetics.
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I agree with you that sexuality is treated as shameful in our society, which translates into shame about masturbation, PE, etc. Slowly the stigma of masturbation is being lifted. I know personally several of my buddies whose dads told them that it's normal for guys to jack off, and their viewpoint was much different than my buddies who were brought up with it being shameful. I'm willing to bet the same is true if you let your son in on PE. If you make it normal, it will be normal. If you make it shameful, that's what it will be.
I've got a question, I don't know if this is the right place to ask it but I'll ask
If you inherit a 5 inch unit from your father and you do PE and grow up to 7-8 inches will your son inherit a 5 inch unit or 7-8 ?
sorry for the stupid question but I was just wondering...
If you inherit a 5 inch unit from your father and you do PE and grow up to 7-8 inches will your son inherit a 5 inch unit or 7-8 ?
sorry for the stupid question but I was just wondering...
It doesn't work like that at all. You may get something from your mom's side..Could be more like your grandfather, mix of both family's, etc.
IE- You dad may be 6 inches. You may be 8. Your son may be 7. etc. In terms of PE- I couldn't answer if after time the larger dick actually gets passed down. It would take generations though, if it is possible. Though, I doubt it. It is more so a self improvement procedure.
That was my thought as well. Women also posses that genital size forming gene as well presumptively. I always thought it could come from either side. Mom could have Big Peen Genes, whereas, Pops could have Average Joe Genes.
As far as PE, no, that's a physical change imparted on you by your own doing, it doesn't alter your DNA. At least, i can't see how it would be capable of changing your DNA, but who knows lol!
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That's interesting that she spoke to you at 7 or 8. A guy on another PE forum introduced his son to piss pull at that age. He told him just pull on your pee pee in all directions after you take a leak. His son asked why, and he just said, "Because daddy does it." At 8 that's all his son needed to know. He didn't introduce him to PE totally, but slowly is introducing the principles. I don't know if I would do that with my son at that age, but it does bring up some similar points to somebodyelse's post. Personally, I think puberty is the right time, around 12-13. You put the information out there and make it normal and no big deal. If your son chooses to get into PE that is his choice. You shouldn't force it on him. You also shouldn't be ashamed to let him know that you do it too.
Tell him, "Son there are some things every man is self conscious about. How big his arms are, how his hair looks, what girls think of him, and also how he stacks up with other men in the locker room. I too had these concerns, and this is what helped me."
I don`t have any sons, but I do have grandsons. I have no thoughts on what is or isn`t a good age to begin PE, but I`ll assign an arbitrary age of eighteen since that`s the minimum age required to participate in this forum.
My eldest grandson will turn five later this year meaning he`ll be 18 in the year 2024. My thinking is that by then, I might not have to tell him. Who knows how far PE will have advanced by then and how mainstream it will be? He, along with his little brother and cousin, could reap the benefits of what we are doing now - trying our damndest to perfect and speed up the process of aquiring a larger penis. It may reach a point where it`s down to an exact science, or close enough anyway. What I`m saying is that by 2024 PE may be so tried-and-true that it`s common knowledge passed amongst teen males. I hope so because it`ll save me the trouble of deciding exactly what to say to my grandsons!
I had a random thought which is totally off-topic:
I`ll turn 59 in 2024 and maybe by that time I`ll have gained so much I`ll be able to throw my flaccid over my shoulder. :becky:
My eldest grandson will turn five later this year meaning he`ll be 18 in the year 2024. My thinking is that by then, I might not have to tell him. Who knows how far PE will have advanced by then and how mainstream it will be? He, along with his little brother and cousin, could reap the benefits of what we are doing now - trying our damndest to perfect and speed up the process of aquiring a larger penis. It may reach a point where it`s down to an exact science, or close enough anyway. What I`m saying is that by 2024 PE may be so tried-and-true that it`s common knowledge passed amongst teen males. I hope so because it`ll save me the trouble of deciding exactly what to say to my grandsons!
I had a random thought which is totally off-topic:
I`ll turn 59 in 2024 and maybe by that time I`ll have gained so much I`ll be able to throw my flaccid over my shoulder. :becky:
As a child I grew up by an adult book store. There was a door and dumpster out back accessable from the woods. A daily thing for us to do was raid that area for any porn we could find. Sometimes there would be a bundle sitting right outside that door. Anyhow, most of the mags were published adds of people looking for adult relationships, some were x rated short story books, and some times we would hit the mother load and get some all out, completely uncensored, porn books.
Anyhow, this is the stuff I read even before puberty. They were stacked in our club house, and every picture, add, and story of a cock was huge. I thought a 8 incher was in the small catagorie because most were in the 9"-11" range. WTF???? I thought my little pathetic 7" (at the time) was tiny and I was extreamly embarrased to the point that I didnt want to have sex during my early teens. I was afraid of a girl telling everyone I was small. I wanted a bigger penis more than anything in the world, but it wasn't something I could talk to my dad about. We never had that kind of relationship. I remember my face turning beat red when a naked women would apear while we were watching a movie. I will not let my children feel that way at all. So, basically what I am trying to say is that this will be apart of my sons 12 year old sex talk. But it will be just a part. I don't want him to think that a big penis means you are a pleasure factory, or that girls will jump all over him because of a big penis. I want him to know what really turns women on.....emotions.
Anyhow, this is the stuff I read even before puberty. They were stacked in our club house, and every picture, add, and story of a cock was huge. I thought a 8 incher was in the small catagorie because most were in the 9"-11" range. WTF???? I thought my little pathetic 7" (at the time) was tiny and I was extreamly embarrased to the point that I didnt want to have sex during my early teens. I was afraid of a girl telling everyone I was small. I wanted a bigger penis more than anything in the world, but it wasn't something I could talk to my dad about. We never had that kind of relationship. I remember my face turning beat red when a naked women would apear while we were watching a movie. I will not let my children feel that way at all. So, basically what I am trying to say is that this will be apart of my sons 12 year old sex talk. But it will be just a part. I don't want him to think that a big penis means you are a pleasure factory, or that girls will jump all over him because of a big penis. I want him to know what really turns women on.....emotions.
You bring up a good point, Gemini. Look at the amount of members we have, plus the thousands of "guests"/lurkers. That's not including all of the other PE forums out there. A lot can change in a decade and a half. Look at how common boob jobs and plastic surgery are now compared to 15 years ago. That doesn't mean everyone will do it just because they know about it. I mean look at all the health clubs, fitness magazines, etc. and people still aren't in shape in general. I'm sure that PE will be the same way. Nice that you are looking out for your grandsons! I wonder if there are any other guys like that out there, letting grandsons or nephews or cousins in on PE, as well as fathers.
Not to mention bodybuilding and fitness in general. Before Pumping Iron came out in 1976, bodybuilding nor fitness was mainstream, in fact, it was considered a freak subculture, after that it was celebrated, celebrated to the point that the whole 1980's movies genre celebrated and glorified physical development, and by 1985, a sequel to Pumping Iron had come out featuring women bodybuilders, today millions of people world wide hold gym memberships. What PE needs is publicity and to be put to the test by the medical community, because lets face it, for those who are afraid to think outside the box on such matters, rely on the medical community.
I don't have too much hope, unfortunately. What are the circumcision rates in this country? I know they are declining, thankfully, but still probably rather high. The medical community will continue to keep this tight lipped and show little to no belief in it, as long as more money can be made by acting that way.
