Zero gains in 1.5 years of extremely consistent hanging with Lg hanger doing BTC and SD hanging. Should I try straight out and straight up or give up?

[wheeler775]

Hey everyone!

I’ve been hanging with with the Lg hanger for over 2 years now. But extremely consistently (6-7 days a week for 1-2 hours a day) for 1.5 years. I started with 3 lbs and very very slowly worked my way up to now being at 13 lbs for the last month or so.

I heat before and during the entire hanging session with a IR heat pad. I purposefully didn’t measure for a year starting last March so that I don’t lose motivation. I measured again this week and have gained absolutely nothing flaccid nor erect for both bp and nbp (measured both flaccid and erect bone pressed and non bone pressed).

I have been doing almost entirely straight down and BTC stretches.

I did not progress too quickly nor go up weights too quickly.

It’s quite disheartening to be honest because of all that time spent for nothing. I don’t necessarily want to give up so I was thinking maybe, just maybe, I should try straight out or straight up (or a combo of both) for a few months to see if that might see me make gains. But I’m not too confident I’ll see any gains that way if I haven’t seen any at all with SD and BtC as I know those are the stretches where people usually gain length.

What are your guys’s thoughts? Should I attempt it or is it a waste of time?

 

[MisterGeo]

Just a few questions before I go into more detail...

1. Have you ever gained any measurable erect length from anything that you've tried in your entire PE career? If so, how much? And what technique or device?

2. How many months or weeks have you been hanging 8 lbs or more?

 

[wheeler775]

Since I began measuring, which was in early 2023, I have had no gains at all in erect length. I may have possibly had beginner gains back in like 2015 or so due to manual stretches but I never measured unfortunately. Although I don’t think I did because I never noticed any difference and didn’t really commit to it for long.

I’ve been at 8 lbs or more since June of last year (2025).

 

[PEispossible]

Straight down puts much more stress into the tunica

I've hung over three thousand hours since starting in dec 2018. I switched to BTC with coaching I guess you can call it from bib. I may have gained some girth, base girth esp but after two thousand hours in four years or so, I stopped the compression and started vac hanging

I do both and use heat before every hanging session.

It's up to you.

 

[wheeler775]

I am vac hanging now.

And my apologies, I’m a little confused. I know you’re saying it’s up to me but what do you recommend? Are you saying stay committed to BTC/SD or that you didn’t gain any length and only girth? Or try changing it up to see if anything changes?

 

[MisterGeo]

Since I began measuring, which was in early 2023, I have had no gains at all in erect length. I may have possibly had beginner gains back in like 2015 or so due to manual stretches but I never measured unfortunately. Although I don’t think I did because I never noticed any difference and didn’t really commit to it for long.

I’ve been at 8 lbs or more since June of last year (2025).

Keep in mind that you're not alone. The experience you report is more common than not. PE is a totally experimental process of discovery. Some men gain. Some men don't. Some gain a little and then the gains stop. Some are able to eke out another increment of gains, but one thing all men seem to have in common is that eventually the gains just stop. Despite all the so-called "theories" we really don't have sufficient evidence as to what specific physiological process is causing gains, or that all men have the physiological setup that can result in gains.

I understand the feelings of disappointment after having invested so much time and risk. And I think you are right to have little confidence that trying other directions will make much difference if SD and BTC didn't produce gains. No matter which direction you apply tension you are still putting tension on the same chain of target tissues: tunica, other fascia, ligaments.

Based on what you report about your history, especially the load of tension you have applied since June of 2025, I would think you should have seen some measurable gain. You were working with naïve tissue and this is usually the tissue that will yield a first increment of gains relatively quickly.

You are considering two options - altering the direction of tension or quitting. I don't know if you'll get a consensus recommendation from these forums. It's hard to say what's best for you. PE is so experimental and so many factors come into personal decisions like this.

I think it sounds at the very least like you're ready for a break. Sometimes tough decisions are better approached that way. You can always get back to the drawing board someday if you choose. Or maybe during your break it will become more clear that you've already made a decision to move on.

I personally stopped doing any training a long time ago. I gained two increments of erect length from an intensive manual stretching technique. One in 2018. The next in 2019 which totally surprised me. Subsequent attempts to replicate those results have failed. I've tried lots of approaches and finally quit messing with it in 2023. My potential for gains appears to be tapped out. I still plan to experiment with sustained traction via hanging, but it will be a while before I have the time and privacy to totally invest in a meaningful trial.

I thank you for posting your experience. Reading many stories like yours suggest that I'm probably correct in my conclusion that I've exhausted my potential for gains. I'll know more in the future.

 

[wheeler775]

Keep in mind that you're not alone. The experience you report is more common than not. PE is a totally experimental process of discovery. Some men gain. Some men don't. Some gain a little and then the gains stop. Some are able to eke out another increment of gains, but one thing all men seem to have in common is that eventually the gains just stop. Despite all the so-called "theories" we really don't have sufficient evidence as to what specific physiological process is causing gains, or that all men have the physiological setup that can result in gains.

I understand the feelings of disappointment after having invested so much time and risk. And I think you are right to have little confidence that trying other directions will make much difference if SD and BTC didn't produce gains. No matter which direction you apply tension you are still putting tension on the same chain of target tissues: tunica, other fascia, ligaments.

Based on what you report about your history, especially the load of tension you have applied since June of 2025, I would think you should have seen some measurable gain. You were working with naïve tissue and this is usually the tissue that will yield a first increment of gains relatively quickly.

You are considering two options - altering the direction of tension or quitting. I don't know if you'll get a consensus recommendation from these forums. It's hard to say what's best for you. PE is so experimental and so many factors come into personal decisions like this.

I think it sounds at the very least like you're ready for a break. Sometimes tough decisions are better approached that way. You can always get back to the drawing board someday if you choose. Or maybe during your break it will become more clear that you've already made a decision to move on.

I personally stopped doing any training a long time ago. I gained two increments of erect length from an intensive manual stretching technique. One in 2018. The next in 2019 which totally surprised me. Subsequent attempts to replicate those results have failed. I've tried lots of approaches and finally quit messing with it in 2023. My potential for gains appears to be tapped out. I still plan to experiment with sustained traction via hanging, but it will be a while before I have the time and privacy to totally invest in a meaningful trial.

I thank you for posting your experience. Reading many stories like yours suggest that I'm probably correct in my conclusion that I've exhausted my potential for gains. I'll know more in the future.

Thank you for your response. I appreciate the honesty regarding that I might just not be a gainer. It sucks to think about for sure, especially considering all the effort, but maybe that’s just the truth.

Like you said, maybe at this point I just need some time to think of what I’ll do. I’m not sure I’m ready to give up just yet, but who know how I’ll feel after a good break. I had already started doing some straight out and up hangs a week or so ago before asking this question so I might just give it 2-4 months and hope for anything before taking on a serious break. Not sure yet to be honest. Hard to make a decision.

Hope whatever you end up trying in the future works for you.

 

[MisterGeo]

Thank you for your response. I appreciate the honesty regarding that I might just not be a gainer. It sucks to think about for sure, especially considering all the effort, but maybe that’s just the truth.

Like you said, maybe at this point I just need some time to think of what I’ll do. I’m not sure I’m ready to give up just yet, but who know how I’ll feel after a good break. I had already started doing some straight out and up hangs a week or so ago before asking this question so I might just give it 2-4 months and hope for anything before taking on a serious break. Not sure yet to be honest. Hard to make a decision.

Hope whatever you end up trying in the future works for you.

Hey thanks for the nice reply. I think it's a good idea to give it a few weeks or months with the new directionals. It can't do any harm. 13 pounds might be a little overkill, so if you brought that back to 10 or 11 pounds I think you'd still be in the zone, but that's up to you. Good luck and let us know how it shakes out. There are other training protocols you could experiment with in the future too.

I omitted that I started PE way back in 2008. My first 4 years I gained absolutely nothing after trying several popular routines and some of my own. It was all jelq centered stuff and mostly fixed on girth. I quit after those 4 years. But I got back to the drawing board 6 years later and focused only on length training with manual stretching which was always something I avoided for some reason. That was 2018 and that's when I got my first gains in erect length. So long breaks can give fresh perspective and ideas too.

Anyway, good luck. Let us know how it all goes.

 

[PEispossible]

I am vac hanging now.

And my apologies, I’m a little confused. I know you’re saying it’s up to me but what do you recommend? Are you saying stay committed to BTC/SD or that you didn’t gain any length and only girth? Or try changing it up to see if anything changes?

You were asking what to say next. I recommended straight down hanging to behind the cheeks hanging because one all btc hanging did with stretch the suspension ligament some and gave penis a little different look, as btc hanging the stress goes mainly to the top, base and suspensory ligament

According to measurements, which I don't do much I gained 0.5 inch at most, and most of it was in the first year, five hundred hours of hanging straight down

Everyone's penis is different and guys like bib who clUms to have gained four inches in length and two in girth, are super rare. Bib has always gotten injured easily falling down or with sports, lifting weights due to his low collagen levels, according to his words

Some guys might be an 7-10 on the bell curve and need way more time, and tension. Some guys are said they have been stuck at thirty, thirty five lbs, and even forty pounds compression hanging and it wasn't untill they surpassed these numbers ,tensions, they be seen length increases

I've gone to thirty lbs BTC for a few months , a few fifteen to twenty minute sets everyday, then reducing weight aka " riding the fatigue", and this didn't produce any measurable length increases

 

[wheeler775]

Hey thanks for the nice reply. I think it's a good idea to give it a few weeks or months with the new directionals. It can't do any harm. 13 pounds might be a little overkill, so if you brought that back to 10 or 11 pounds I think you'd still be in the zone, but that's up to you. Good luck and let us know how it shakes out. There are other training protocols you could experiment with in the future too.

I omitted that I started PE way back in 2008. My first 4 years I gained absolutely nothing after trying several popular routines and some of my own. It was all jelq centered stuff and mostly fixed on girth. I quit after those 4 years. But I got back to the drawing board 6 years later and focused only on length training with manual stretching which was always something I avoided for some reason. That was 2018 and that's when I got my first gains in erect length. So long breaks can give fresh perspective and ideas too.

Anyway, good luck. Let us know how it all goes.

Thank you! And yea I started with 10lbs instead of 13 so glad you think that’s a good idea as well.

I’ll update in a few months. Let’s wait and see!

 

[wheeler775]

You were asking what to say next. I recommended straight down hanging to behind the cheeks hanging because one all btc hanging did with stretch the suspension ligament some and gave penis a little different look, as btc hanging the stress goes mainly to the top, base and suspensory ligament

According to measurements, which I don't do much I gained 0.5 inch at most, and most of it was in the first year, five hundred hours of hanging straight down

Everyone's penis is different and guys like bib who clUms to have gained four inches in length and two in girth, are super rare. Bib has always gotten injured easily falling down or with sports, lifting weights due to his low collagen levels, according to his words

Some guys might be an 7-10 on the bell curve and need way more time, and tension. Some guys are said they have been stuck at thirty, thirty five lbs, and even forty pounds compression hanging and it wasn't untill they surpassed these numbers ,tensions, they be seen length increases

I've gone to thirty lbs BTC for a few months , a few fifteen to twenty minute sets everyday, then reducing weight aka " riding the fatigue", and this didn't produce any measurable length increases

Ah okay, I see. Thank you for the clarification! I really appreciate the info and response.

 

[Bueller86]

We are all different. I trained religiously for 3 years. I had good newbie gains and then mostly plateaued. Tried taking breaks. Tried varying the routine. I just may be where I was meant to be.

Because of my living situation (during my first three years of training) it was easy to block off time and privacy for training. That situation has changed now and I can't train as religiously as before, and I think its a god-send for me as I don't obsess over getting my training fit into my day. So - I don't train but about once/twice ever two weeks and its been beneficial for a lot of other aspects of my life, as I've freed up a lot time from my schedule.

I'm an advocate of training - within reason.

 

[Tmac123]

Sorry didnt read the whole thing, but have you tried supplements like L-Citrulline 6g pre workouts? do you do adequate warm up? heat sock, infrared? etc

I stopped gaining for a long time, but it was because I just stayed at the same weight and I got used to it. Past 3 months I started again with best extender and clamp and pumping

So I go 3x20 mins in extender started at 2lbs, then each week went up 1lb then when I got to 8.8lbs I stayed on the weight two weeks and progressed to 13.8lbs atm, I finish with 2-3x10 mins pumping at 5-8hg and I have gained .49 inches

 

[MisterGeo]

Sorry didnt read the whole thing, but have you tried supplements like L-Citrulline 6g pre workouts? do you do adequate warm up? heat sock, infrared? etc

I stopped gaining for a long time, but it was because I just stayed at the same weight and I got used to it. Past 3 months I started again with best extender and clamp and pumping

So I go 3x20 mins in extender started at 2lbs, then each week went up 1lb then when I got to 8.8lbs I stayed on the weight two weeks and progressed to 13.8lbs atm, I finish with 2-3x10 mins pumping at 5-8hg and I have gained .49 inches

Hi Tmac123, sounds like you got over a personal plateau. I'm curious about the .49 inches you gained. Is that a stretched flaccid measurement, or erect measurement? Also, curious about the decimals to hundredths. Is that a metric conversion? Do you use a ruler to measure, or does your pump or extender have markings? Thanks.

 

[wheeler775]

Sorry didnt read the whole thing, but have you tried supplements like L-Citrulline 6g pre workouts? do you do adequate warm up? heat sock, infrared? etc

I stopped gaining for a long time, but it was because I just stayed at the same weight and I got used to it. Past 3 months I started again with best extender and clamp and pumping

So I go 3x20 mins in extender started at 2lbs, then each week went up 1lb then when I got to 8.8lbs I stayed on the weight two weeks and progressed to 13.8lbs atm, I finish with 2-3x10 mins pumping at 5-8hg and I have gained .49 inches

I do heat before and during the hanging sessions with an IR heat pad. I also progressed in adding weight over the past year up to 13 lbs. nothing’s worked.

I haven’t tried the supplement though. Would it realistically make a difference?

 

[PEispossible]

I do heat before and during the hanging sessions with an IR heat pad. I also progressed in adding weight over the past year up to 13 lbs. nothing’s worked.

I haven’t tried the supplement though. Would it realistically make a difference?

You may need to go to 30,35 ,40,45 lbs to stretch the tunica. Some peoples collagen fibers are much more resilient than others. For example on a scale of 1-10, the legendary bib , was a 1 or 2. Most people are 4-7, and 8 and above in toughened collagen tissue have the most difficult time increasing length , from what I know

As far as I know straight down stresses the tunica at a higher percent than btc, which is mostly ligs, and base penis targeted, with some tunica, and over the shoulder position. Straight out as well. I've tried all of these . The "smooth muscle I've gained from pe is base girth. In length half an inch.

Imo on any supplement ,no, unless it's dht cream and you're thirteen years old

 

[MisterGeo]

You may need to go to 30,35 ,40,45 lbs to stretch the tunica. Some peoples collagen fibers are much more resilient than others. For example on a scale of 1-10, the legendary bib , was a 1 or 2. Most people are 4-7, and 8 and above in toughened collagen tissue have the most difficult time increasing length , from what I know

As far as I know straight down stresses the tunica at a higher percent than btc, which is mostly ligs, and base penis targeted, with some tunica, and over the shoulder position. Straight out as well. I've tried all of these . The "smooth muscle I've gained from pe is base girth. In length half an inch.

Imo on any supplement ,no, unless it's dht cream and you're thirteen years old

Hi PEispossible. I always wondered why BIB didn't just tear his tunica and destroy his penis if he was so susceptible to other connective tissue injuries all his life. His theory is that his connective tissue weakness is what caused his unparalleled gains, right?

 

[XXRyanXXL250]

Honestly you set yourself up for failure once you motivated yourself not to measure.
If your serious about PE, you will measure REGULARLY, as in bi-weekly to monthly.
That being said, there are alternatives. IMO from at least 8+ years doing PE, stretching is waste of time.
Committ yourself to a traction device and spend at least 6-8 hours a day, with 1 day of rest, measure regularly.
IF you can't do this, then PE is not for you, it's a complete waste of time.

 

[PEispossible]

Hi PEispossible. I always wondered why BIB didn't just tear his tunica and destroy his penis if he was so susceptible to other connective tissue injuries all his life. His theory is that his connective tissue weakness is what caused his unparalleled gains, right?

Yes, according to him. He worked up to heaviest weight was 42 lbs or maybe more

He says any penis can deform under the weight that requires it to give way

Do you think this theory of collagen tissue is the reason some guys gain two inches in length or half an inch ?

 

[Whatit2ya]

Hey everyone!

I’ve been hanging with with the Lg hanger for over 2 years now. But extremely consistently (6-7 days a week for 1-2 hours a day) for 1.5 years. I started with 3 lbs and very very slowly worked my way up to now being at 13 lbs for the last month or so.

I heat before and during the entire hanging session with a IR heat pad. I purposefully didn’t measure for a year starting last March so that I don’t lose motivation. I measured again this week and have gained absolutely nothing flaccid nor erect for both bp and nbp (measured both flaccid and erect bone pressed and non bone pressed).

I have been doing almost entirely straight down and BTC stretches.

I did not progress too quickly nor go up weights too quickly.

It’s quite disheartening to be honest because of all that time spent for nothing. I don’t necessarily want to give up so I was thinking maybe, just maybe, I should try straight out or straight up (or a combo of both) for a few months to see if that might see me make gains. But I’m not too confident I’ll see any gains that way if I haven’t seen any at all with SD and BtC as I know those are the stretches where people usually gain length.

What are your guys’s thoughts? Should I attempt it or is it a waste of time?

Hey man I have a note at the top of my PE journal to keep me sane throughout this journey thought I'd share "PE is basically self-experimentation. There are no cookie cutter routines where if you do XYZ it will equal definitive results" with that being said have you experimented with other options besides hanging? I think someone else mentioned it may be time to take a break let things heal...then go at it with a different approach? Have you considered extending for longer periods with less weight, manuals, etc? For me I hit a couple month plateau last year once I added in girth work gains resumed (this was during my first year of PE for what it's worth) maybe add in some girth stimulus post length work?

Lastly I have not seen any mention of your BPSFL has that increased at all during the 1.5 year journey? If so where was it and where is it now? For me that is what I track most BPEL can fluctuate for me based on water intake stress etc