Any rumors on this new LG hanger?

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I think all schlittle was saying is that it's an unknown whether an open ended wear time was an advantage or not, as it's an assumption that it is in this case with no real studies to go by. I.e. It's unknown whether sets beyond X minutes long are futile.

However Dr. Ric provided a very promising reply in that tractioning of the spine is shown to be more responsive to this kind of long, unbroken tractioning vs. Multiple sets of shorter duration.
 

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Thank you for replying to my questions Dr. Ric.

In regards to Schlittle's question, it's a fairly widely accepted principle. High intensity for low time vs. lower intensity for longer.

Quite similar to the differences between hanging and extending (both of which work).
 

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Hi guys!
Really you will try to sell it for $295...!? That is some mad price for this bro... All you need is $50 and you can make your own...
In my head what i see is:
by using your foreskin as protection in long run you will make it ugly looking
for the asking price this device is to complicated
and anyone could make it at home for way less money

Dont get me wrong im not dissing your product, just giving you something to think about!
I agree with your sticker shock. This price invites competition.
 

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I think all schlittle was saying is that it's an unknown whether an open ended wear time was an advantage or not, as it's an assumption that it is in this case with no real studies to go by. I.e. It's unknown whether sets beyond X minutes long are futile.

However Dr. Ric provided a very promising reply in that tractioning of the spine is shown to be more responsive to this kind of long, unbroken tractioning vs. Multiple sets of shorter duration.

Collagen period reacts better to longer periods of stretching. I've been reading for many years and I can post studies suggesting just that if you like. It will take days to find them all but it is indeed there to find.
 

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Collagen period reacts better to longer periods of stretching. I've been reading for many years and I can post studies suggesting just that if you like. It will take days to find them all but it is indeed there to find.

I think DonJelqer would agree with you, although I cant speak for him I have spoken with him many times and I know that most of his gains have come from extending even though he has many hours of hanging experience as well.
 
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I don't say ludicrous, I say your thinking out of your ass. What makes you think that 15lbs for 15 minutes = 15lbs for 60 minutes? The impuse of the two actions are drastically different. To avoid mucking about with conversion factors to get to SI units, 15*15 = 225 lb*min and 60*15 = 900 lb*min. So I'm going to guess thinking (a logical analysis of a situation including a very small about of numeracy) is not what you were doing. Unless you know of a magical multiplier which makes 15lbs in the Bib 4 times as heavy as 15lbs in the LG.

You start off with several what-ifs, establish a ridiculous thesis (completely void of numeracy), suggest a time-decay efficacy to non-stop hanging (which is unsupported), then jump immediately to "if this were true" to arrive to other ridiculous conclusions. I'm starting to think your cat typed this argument.

Perhaps you could be bothered to provide some support for your suppositions next time you post.
Now now don't be bitchy.

When i came to this conclusion i was thinking about endurance. A guy or woman who sets a personal best time in the 10,000 metres but then switches to running the marathon (around 42,000 metres) will factually be able to run pretty close to there 10,000 metre time for each 10,000 metres of the marathon. So what's happening after the 10,000 metres is just endurance.

So after 20 minutes of hanging 15 lbs i would imagine the only thing that's happening is endurance.

You may say i'm speaking out of my ass but i don't believe your assumption that a 60 minute hang at 15 lbs would be 3 times more productive than a 15 lb hang for 20 minutes.
 
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We're not only talking about collagen though.

Many have reported excellent gains from the Jai stretch, which is based on many short repetitions and there are studies on the tendons of rat tails which lend credence to the technique.

Even with that said, I'm with you- I definitely see a lot of promise in interrupted traction and I believe Dr. Ric had a great response in that regard. I was just pointing out that there are definitely some unknowns out there so it's bound to raise valid questions on the subject.
 

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Now now don't be bitchy.

When i came to this conclusion i was thinking about endurance. A guy or woman who sets a personal best time in the 10,000 metres but then switches to running the marathon (around 42,000 metres) will factually be able to run pretty close to there 10,000 metre time for each 10,000 metres of the marathon. So what's happening after the 10,000 metres is just endurance.

So after 20 minutes of hanging 15 lbs i would imagine the only thing that's happening is endurance.

You may say i'm speaking out of my ass but i don't believe your assumption that a 60 minute hang at 15 lbs would be 3 times more productive than a 15 lb hang for 20 minutes.

Actually the results of 60 minutes of hang time at 15 lbs would for most people result in more than 3 times the result of 20 minutes at 15 lbs, the key with hanging is time over weight. The collagen and lig break down multiplies more so with the added time so at the last 20 minutes you would get much more plastic deformation than the first 20 minutes. I know this example is not the same but any rubbery material that has weight applied would start to stretch slowly but at the end when it is about to fail it would rapidly stretch then fail.
 

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I would also add that any one trying this who is not that experienced should most likely start with sets of 30 minutes and then progressively work for time rather than weight, an example would be to start at 5 lbs and then to increase time until the desired daily time is met, once it is met then I would slowly add weight.

If I use this product i will be shooting for an hour or two a day and when i get two hours with out interruption I will add weight, I may find that I get two hours right off the bat and that is the hope as I feel that even though I have hung upwards of 35 lbs with a bib I have no doubt that two ahours at 10 lbs would be an incredible session.
 

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Another thing to kick around (I love "think tank" style of conversations)

There has been theories that to much time and/or weight hanging can trigger a response in the body to toughen up instead of being coaxed into growing. I've talked to many hangers who believe that they toughened up their penis instead of growing by hanging too heavy. One has to wonder if there is any truth to this and if so, where does such a response start?
 

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Now now don't be bitchy.

When i came to this conclusion i was thinking about endurance. A guy or woman who sets a personal best time in the 10,000 metres but then switches to running the marathon (around 42,000 metres) will factually be able to run pretty close to there 10,000 metre time for each 10,000 metres of the marathon. So what's happening after the 10,000 metres is just endurance.

So after 20 minutes of hanging 15 lbs i would imagine the only thing that's happening is endurance.

You may say i'm speaking out of my ass but i don't believe your assumption that a 60 minute hang at 15 lbs would be 3 times more productive than a 15 lb hang for 20 minutes.
You're imagining apples to oranges when comparing cardio and muscle endurance to collagen stretching.

If you look closely, I counter argued your point that 60min at 15 lbs equal 15min at 15lbs. I didn't argue productivity. My argument was with the information available (on this site and on the web) it is ridiculous to make your assertions.
 

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Another thing to kick around (I love "think tank" style of conversations)

There has been theories that to much time and/or weight hanging can trigger a response in the body to toughen up instead of being coaxed into growing. I've talked to many hangers who believe that they toughened up their penis instead of growing by hanging too heavy. One has to wonder if there is any truth to this and if so, where does such a response start?
I'm questioning this as well. My pursuit of PE could be described as vigorous. I'm taking time to dial back my pumping to see how my PIs react.

I think it is all about the delicate balance between strain and injury. I can imagine that some hangers (like me) lack the patience to allow the lower weight to do its work when we dedicate 1/3 of our time unwrapping, moving circulation, then wrapping. The frustration of stealth PE for 2 hours to only get 60-80 minutes of hanging made me abandon it.

Change that to 2 solid hours and I'm back in the game.
 

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If some of you guys do buy the LG hanger and lets say the maxium weight it can handle is 20lbs but after a while you begin hanging for 2 hours straight with 20 lbs and it feels incredibly light and you feel absolutely no fatigue. Do you think you'll still gain in that situation?
 

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At that point it would slow down gains from the same weight but I am sure if one got to that point of hanging 20 lbs for two hours with out a break they would surely have made decent gains. We would need test subjects to determine the overall results.
 

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If some of you guys do buy the LG hanger and lets say the maxium weight it can handle is 20lbs but after a while you begin hanging for 2 hours straight with 20 lbs and it feels incredibly light and you feel absolutely no fatigue. Do you think you'll still gain in that situation?

Probably not, at that point you'd probably have to either increase the time, or find a way to increase the weight.

Or take a decon break and start over.

Interesting question.

In fairness though, you can't keep increasing tension indefinitely, the ligament will eventually either snap or be ripped from the pelvis.
 

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Good morning to all,
Thanks for all the replies...
Namsokiek hit the nail on the head when he explained how capitalism works!

A little medical background on myself. I was born pre-mature, less than 5 lbs (4 lbs 9 ounces). Back in 1957 it was rare that premature babies as small as I was often made it into the world. I had several problems at birth. I had a double hernia, a ruptured navel and a hematoma (large blood clot) on my skull. All of which were surgically repaired before I was 3 months old. Additionally having raced motorcycles from the time I was 11 - 42 years of age I can tell you my body has been thru the meat grinder!

Last year I had a hernia. It was not due to hanging heavy weight. It was due to playing golf with a buddy who routinely hits over 300 yard drives and me being stupid enough to try and keep up with him and swinging out of my shoes! The hernia I had couldn't be fixed for 8 months because I had no health insurance at the time, and had to rely on my service as a veteran and my VA eligibility to provide the surgery. Last year in October is when the VA was finally able to get me into the operating room. I have made a full recovery, however my core strength isn't what it used to be ... maybe 85%

That said as I have resumed my PE and weight hanging I have done so with extreme caution. I am not pushing the limits of weight hanging, and I never will!
I currently will go up to 12 lbs for 30 minute intervals. I can feel a slight pull in my lower abdomen region, and that is my limit for now. At one point prior to the hernia I was using 15 lbs for 45 minutes. But truth be told as I have been getting back into it I feel that I am getting results with less weight and longer wear times.
I'm not into pain, and from my perspective I don't believe that in the world of PE that any kind of pain is beneficial or necessary to get results in length or girth.
I believe if you train to exhaustion and you feel the "muscle awareness" within your penis then you have done sufficient work to trigger growth.... just my opinion.

So for those interested in "going where no man has gone before", all I can say is God Speed!
I believe Dr. Ric can more adequately test the weight limits better than myself.

When I do weight training at the gym, my goal isn't to see how much weight I can push or pull... I leave that ego ball busting crap at the door. My goal is to work a muscle part or group until I feel I have trained it to exhaustion. Many professional bodybuilders will tell you that they didn't need to bench press 600 lbs for 10 reps in order to build massive pectorals. I think the same holds true with the LG Hanger and how much you hang varies from individual to individual. Use some common sense and don't jeopardize your penis health!

With regards to cost.... I am well aware of all the various manufacturing methods available to mass produce. Injection molding is an option we may pursue in the future (same with casting) if market demand is sufficient. I don't know how many of you out there have ever looked at the cost of a plastic injection mold and what one costs to build, but having made plastic injection molds for the food container industry, frisbees, yo-yo's, sun visors etc. I can tell you they ain't cheap!!! We once built a mold for a 12 cavity yougurt cup that was over 300K!

Right now I manufacture these chamber domes from solid round acrylic polycarbonate on a C.N.C. lathe and mill. My shop rate is $60 per hour. I don't feel the need to break down my cost equations to try and justify the price we are asking for the kit. I don't go to my barber, dentist, auto mechanic, divorce attorney and try and pin him or her down on why the charge what they charge. If I don't like the price of something I usually don't buy it!
You can buy a custom machined golf putter for $600 bucks made from a solid billet of stainless steel that was made on a 5 axis C.N.C. machine that cost 500K, or you can go down to Big 5 sporting goods and buy some cast piece of crap from China for $19 bucks... it's your choice. You really get what you pay for!
Like I said in my first post, my time is valuable and this is not my main source of income. Dr. Ric and I are having discussions on what would be a reasonable price to sell just the LG Hanger chamber and silicon rubber sleeve for to those who already have a hand vacuum device and weight. I do not manufacture the silicon sleeve. I have to purchase that from another vendor source, same with the fittings, o'ring and hook. I am currently having discussions with them on how much of a price discount we can get if we buy in volume. I too want to make this as affordable as possible to everyone out there! Those discussions and hard ball negotiations with the rubber vendor take time too by the way! But I want to pass the savings I can negotiate off onto all potential customers!

I hope that answers some of the questions and concerns :becky:
I have been thinking of a sales slogan and I believe I have one that is appropriate for the LG Hanger .... "realize your full potential" LG Hanger
 

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Donjelqer, i can remember in the past (lol i think it was you) you sometimes hung for one hour straight sessions. How much weight were you hanging in those one hour sessions?
 

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The most I hung for extremely long sets was 20 lbs. After this point circulation became an issue due to the extreme clamping pressure needed to support the higher weight. On a side note, this is definitely not something I would recommend to someone with a bib...
 

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The most I hung for extremely long sets was 20 lbs. After this point circulation became an issue due to the extreme clamping pressure needed to support the higher weight. On a side note, this is definitely not something I would recommend to someone with a bib...
Yes to guys out there only do 20 minutes maximum with the bib.

So if the LG hanger has only been tested at 15 lbs so far wouldn't you be worried within a few weeks of buying it you'd be at the upper weight limit and having to do incredibly long sessions to reach any kind of fatigue?