X4 Extender

[mumbo123]

I have just recently saved up roughly around 300 dollars to invest towards an extender.
To my amazement i was dead set on buying the Fastsize Extender package, I now know that i quite
possibly have the worst luck in the world, Today i go to there website to find out that they have been shut down and are currently awaiting medical approval.

Now I have 300 dollars and have no ideal which extender to buy
I do have the X4 in mind and was wondering if the product is durable and worth my money.


Your personal experience and facts on PE would be much appreciated in helping me
found out which extender i should purchase now.

Regards, Mumbo

 

[Wantstobebetter]

I don't currently have it but I was considering buying the X4 at a later time as well. I've noticed several people on here use them so hopefully they can tell us more.

 

[mumbo123]

Yeah I've been reading these forums for about a year now and X4 seems to be quite popular, depending on the responses from this thread il probably order one tonight .

 

[Dangler]

I've no regrets about choosing the X4,
I am on year 2, not wearing as much as I did the first year, but I can up the session hours whenever I want.

 

[Wantstobebetter]

Dangler - How soon did you start noticing gains from the X4? and how much did you gain on average per month?

 

[not2big]

3 months on the X4. No problems. I seem to have gained about 1/4" but I also pump, clamp, and jelq

 

[Dangler]

Dangler - How soon did you start noticing gains from the X4? and how much did you gain on average per month?

At my age & amount of session hours a day, and tension's I used,
I started seeing flaccid gains in the first 45 days, and erect gain just after 90 days. In my first year, I was experiencing averages between 0.125" and 0.22" per month.
There were some plateaus were nothing was happening. Persistence, stick to it, be determined, warm up, jelq, hand exercises. Theses will help you get there. Good luck!

 

[Pub Lunch]

Dangler - mate you say you started seeing gains after 90 days using the extender was this around the time you started stretching beyond your erect length?

Basically with the programme I am using with Andropenis they say after 1 and a half months (2 if you include the 15 day easing in period) you should start to see gains and that about 0.5cm should be gained after this 6 week period. It is really only after 5 weeks with the programme do you reach your erect length.

I am at this stage now, infact I am so comfortable that I have been a bit naughty and am actuually stretching at 15.8cm where my erect length is 6 inches or about 15 1/4 cm's. I feel nothing, I mean really.

And this is why I write because you obviously know what these extenders are about so I ask you, should I feel something now I am stretching 0.5cm beyond my erect length?? I really feel hardly any tension at all and I am confused as I thought my dick would be on fire now, really taught as I stretch beyond any length it has gone to before!! But no, I get a burning sensation after x hours around where the noose holds the penis but that is it - no fatigue in the shaft, no real sensation that it is being tugged or anything.

Do you remember how it felt when you were stretching beyond your erect length?

My fear is that all I am going to end up with is a rubbery knob!!

I am only 5 weeks in so I realise these are very early days but still, I need to know that I am on the right track!!!

Cheers!

 

[Dangler]

I've always been able, & can still stretch flaccid length more than erect length. Using the grams of pull of the X4 to set up the "pull", not adding lengths or rods to increase pull.
Restated as:
I build the extender length & adjust the X4 to apply so many grams of pull. What Bone Pressed eXtended Length, BPXL, you arrive at is, what it is, for the applied grams of "pull AND the amount of "cell relaxation" occurs, usually after ~20 minutes.

Other extender brands only tell you to add "x" inches or mm or rods every so often.

I have never adjusted my extender length or pull, by a subjective "how does it feel" methodology.

The amount of "burning" felt with noose usage, is going to vary, there are several factors of causality. When you do start to feel that, you can remove the device & rest, massage your penis. No matter which way you fasten in to an extender, pain is feedback. Use it to prevent damage, and to modify the way you use/wear your extender.
I discourage using a subjective amount of pain to determine how much stertching force to apply. Thats going to vary, user to user, with pain tolerance, and exposure to pain over time.
Not feeling pain is good.
hope thus helps.

 

[mumbo123]

Thanks Guys i went ahead and bought the X4 last night, now all i have to do is go ahead and wait for shipping!

 

[Pub Lunch]

Cheers dangler, what I am basically saying is that now I am stretching beyond the erect length I just don't feel as if it is pulling at all. You say cell relaxation occurs after 20 mins and I agree in that there is slight tension in the shaft of my penis at the very start but within 20 mins or so it is gone and my penis feels like jelly despite stretching beyond its erect length - this just doesn't seem right to me??
I just expected to be feeling more of a pull by now and from what I have heard also feel a slight burn in the actual shaft of the penis.

The burning around the noose area is a given and yes when this occurs I take a quick break and go again. I am doing 8 - 9 hrs a day as absolutely demanded by the Andro programme - it is a pain in the arse but if I get my inch it will be worth it!

Goodluck Mumbo!!! Keep us all informed!!

Cheers for getting back to us mate!

 

[Wantstobebetter]

At my age & amount of session hours a day, and tension's I used,
I started seeing flaccid gains in the first 45 days, and erect gain just after 90 days. In my first year, I was experiencing averages between 0.125" and 0.22" per month.
There were some plateaus were nothing was happening. Persistence, stick to it, be determined, warm up, jelq, hand exercises. Theses will help you get there. Good luck!

That is pretty inspiring Dangler. For some people that might be considered slow but it is quick enough for me. As long as I gain I will be happy even if it takes a year or more. But I have a few more questions. Did you notice any EQ improvement while using the X4 because I've read where traction devices can improve EQ and can you clear up one thing for me. I've also read a few times that traction devices can actually make you lose girth. Now I don't really believe that but did you notice any differences in your girth as well? Thanks again

 

[Wantstobebetter]

Thanks Guys i went ahead and bought the X4 last night, now all i have to do is go ahead and wait for shipping!

Please do let us know how it goes. I'm thinking about buying an X4 too and want to hear from as many users as possible.

 

[blink2000]

In my first year, I was experiencing averages between 0.125" and 0.22" per month.

For some people that might be considered slow but it is quick enough for me.

Those are considered very fast gains; I wonder who could possibly think that is "slow". He was gaining nearly 1/4" per month in some months. One year at 1/4" per month would produce 3" of gains; something which is probably impossible for most to achieve (a year is simply not enough time for most people to gain that much, trying too hard to do so would just break your penis).

Anyway, I would say if you're gaining 1/8" per month, you're doing great. Anything more than that I would consider "fast". At 1/8" per month it would take 2 years to gain 3". And if you gain 3" you're one of an elite, lucky, few PEers.

Now back to the X4, I would like to hear whether it's durable & comfortable. It seemed to have a strap attachment from the picture I saw (not a noose). I guess I am an anti-noose guy; probably because I've read so many bad things about nooses. If anyone has actually used an X4 I would like to see their feedback.

Or... if you guys have a thread with a collection of links to Extender reviews, etc, that would really help.

 

[Wantstobebetter]

Well I was just saying I know how impatient some people are and they want results overnight.

 

[blink2000]

You're right, a lot of people are really unrealistic about time vs gains type goals.

 

[not2big]

The x4 comes with noose and strap. I have never tried the noose, but use the strap over 12" of self sticking tape wrapped just below the glans. It is relatively comfortable for up to 1 hr. I have read that you can replace the "rubber like" strap with a velcro strap and it is more comfortable. I have a smallish head so it tends to slip out after an hour or so if I set the tension too high.

 

[alin]

Pub Lunch, I think is very good that you feel comfortable when extending beyond your erect length. That means you began using a reasonable approach increasing slowly, from -4 cm from your EL. I did the same and now I'm extending my penis 2 cm above my EL and don't feel much disconfort. I manage to get sessions for like 4-5 hours at a time, sometimes longer.I gained about 1.5 cm but for the last 2 months I was not consistent with my extender usage. Total months since I bought my extender : ~ 5 months, but proper usage about 3 months. I increase the rods in a slowly manner . I don't increase rods until I feel very comfortable with the current BPXL.

 

[Dangler]

Cheers dangler, what I am basically saying is that now I am stretching beyond the erect length I just don't feel as if it is pulling at all. You say cell relaxation occurs after 20 mins and I agree in that there is slight tension in the shaft of my penis at the very start but within 20 mins or so it is gone and my penis feels like jelly despite stretching beyond its erect length - this just doesn't seem right to me??
I just expected to be feeling more of a pull by now and from what I have heard also feel a slight burn in the actual shaft of the penis.

I addressed this in one of my FAQ Articles, but will restate briefly how I deal with the "now relaxed" issue.
Initially I fasten in & set my X4 for (example) 900 grams of pull. 20 minutes later, after my Cock relaxes, or lengthens, this will reduce the grams, to (example) <600 grams. I then readjust the "pulling" grams to 600 to 800 grams, and just wear it at that tension/pull for the balance of the session.
The core belief used in doing this, is that mitosis, encouragement of cell growth, is most likely to occur in this range of 600 to ~900 grams.

Article here: Extender FAQs- Routine Development and Schedule
look for the content in the "Alternative Method" section.
There are many Extender related Articles, that can give you a well rounded collection of choices to build your extender wearing routines, or modify them to your liking.
Regards,
Dangler

 

[Dangler]

That is pretty inspiring Dangler. For some people that might be considered slow but it is quick enough for me. As long as I gain I will be happy even if it takes a year or more. But I have a few more questions. Did you notice any EQ improvement while using the X4 (1) because I've read where traction devices can improve EQ and can you clear up one thing for me. I've also read a few times that traction devices can actually make you lose girth. Now I don't really believe that but did you notice any differences in your girth as well? (2)Thanks again

(1) I willingly put that consideration on the shelf and went for the accumulation of wearing hours a day. It was not until I got past my first year that I brought into the picture the monitoring of PI's and increased rest days & break time. I needed to see that I could make progress & threw the EQ thing under the bus. Nowadays, EQ is back to being commensurate with my age & medical conditions.

(2) I have never been really over concerned with the girth aspect, or even tracking it. Yes, I see & feel a nicer hand-full. Passes my (non existant) test. :training1: