Triclocarban increases genital size

[Limp Lenny]

I wonder if this could also enhance the effects of Andractim against gynecomastia.

Valderma soap contains Triclocarban.

Valderma also make a cream, which should also contain it.

Not sure of the concentration of TCC in Valderma ~ as it is not listed, we must have different regulations on listing concentrations to the United States.

If I am reading this correctly, it seems to be 1% TCC as of 2006? By the looks of it the cream is a completely different formula unfortunately.

http://drugs-about.com/ing/triclocarban.htm
Seems most of the easily acquired products are all bars of soap, Nobacter I think is 0.9% and they do a shaving foam, can't imagine it would be much more useful though.

 

[mechanicJT]

I spent a very brief amount of time researching this triclocarban and testosterone in combination. Ever heard the commercials about enlarged prostates. Both of these substances are purported to cause enlargement of the prostate. Enough information for me.

 

[phallic1]

Spectrum chemicals sells pure triclocarban powder.
This stuff has been used for 20 years and tested extensively so it couldn't be that
dangerous.

Good find Bongo17.

Spectrum Labs is in my home country as well...bonus. Their price is $75.40 for 100g at 98% purity.

I have no idea what that other site was selling for $350.00/0.05g...the product was listed as triclocarban.

I'm still kinda scared of this triclocarban, especially if it causes my prostate to enlarge permanently. Start messing with stuff like this without any real knowledge of what is taking place in your body is admittedly...stupid.

I have no clue how much I would add to what amount of Andractim, or any other carrier, or what the reaction might be when combining the chemicals. The triclocarban would probably need to be dissolved first in some form of solvent before adding it to the carrier....just to complicate things further.

We need someone with some solid chemistry knowledge here.

 

[phallic1]

Where's Iguana...he'll try it, he'll try anything....ya' know, like Mikey in the old Life Cereal commercials.

 

[Jackxxx]

Hey Phallic from what I read is BPH? Benign Prostate Hypertrophy. That means it goes back to its original size once the agent is out of the body.

 

[Iguana]

Where's Iguana...he'll try it, he'll try anything....ya' know, like Mikey in the old Life Cereal commercials.

No, he won't try anything! Especially without researching it very thoroughly. Even then a lizard knows when to just say no.
The enlarged prostate throws up a big red flag for me.

 

[phallic1]

Ha ha ha...just fun'n with ya buddy

 

[All2Real]

Interesting thread

 

[RockstarParkingDude]

PubMed Central, : Endocrinology. 2008 March; 149(3): 1173

this is a table that has the results from the rat penis study...if i got the link right

basically, the group treated with triclocarbon and testosterone P showed an average increase in penis weight by almost 1.5 times and an increase prostate weight by almost 4 times. the rats were euthanized so theres no info as to whether its reversable. the results of the other tests were interesting as well - test only and TCC only... very very intriguing. transdermal TCC during a test cycle is where my moneys goin.

 

[phallic1]

I'm losing faith in chemical PE.

Last night I read an interesting discussion from a research scientist/doctor who's career studies have specialized in gender disfunction, primarilly on the causes of micropenis and hypogonadism.

Much of his study has involved androgen therapy (testosteron and dht), hgh and IGF-1. Studies involved humans, rats, mice in vivo and in vitro.

His findings over years of research are that 'chemical' support will in some case stimulate penis growth but only in subjects that have not reached full sexual maturity and even then growth plateaus and ceases when typical adult size is approached. After sexual maturity is reached all chemical intervention is unsuccessful at prolonging penis growth.

In reseach to try and unlock the keys to penile development by restimulating growth with androgens and other growth factors in varying combinations and levels indicated as highly supraphysiological in a sexual mature male (of all research species including human) failed.

Study and research was done on androgen receptors and found that in humans penis development ceases years before androgen receptors begin to down regulate.

The doctor states that there is an unknown factor which controls penis growth and development and the cessation of growth that is unknown and a mystery. He speculates on genetic transcription but states that subject is beyond his scope of knowledge and research.

All we have to do is look at professional bodybuilders and other atheletes that use anabolic/androgenic hormones and every other possible chemical or hormone in shocking quantities and durations to create a state of anabolism. None of their penis's experience any dramatic growth and if it did I guarantee some bodybuilder over the decades would have perfected and exploited the discovery for financial gain or bragging rights and it would be common knowledge.

Point of this post in relation to triclocarban is that the rats used in the triclocarban study were 7 weeks old, still in the development stages of penile growth. Growth had not yet terminated at full maturity. Human and rat androgen receptors downregulate opposite. In rats AR down regulation begins before penis growth ceases. In humans AR down regulation starts years after penis growth ceases.

Would a similar study done on fully sexual mature rats restimulate penis growth? Can this research be extrapolated to human?

 

[RockstarParkingDude]

were any of your doctors patients actively doing PE? i feel like he may have been missing that link. i dont think its about restimulating growth so much, as it is about allowing an environment within which it can happen. exercise is essential.

 

[phallic1]

This was'nt my personal doctor and his research focus was not on 'how to enlarge the penis' but on developing an understanding of why and how gender malfunction develops prenatal.

 

[Limp Lenny]

Hey Phallic from what I read is BPH? Benign Prostate Hypertrophy. That means it goes back to its original size once the agent is out of the body.

From what I read and a few assumptions, BPH is down to the genetic decrease of the T : DHT ratio and is at least controlled with DHT reducing drugs. Since the TCC would hopefully not outstay its welcome it might not be so bad.

TCC's effects seem to relate to changes generally attributed to DHT, which would include male pattern baldness. Though I assume rats don't suffer from baldness particularly, so it's a bit of an unknown. Penile growth seems to be the one permanent change, as opposed to baldness and BPH which are potentially reversible.

I'm losing faith in chemical PE.

Good post man, if a little depressing. I agree on the bodybuilder note particularly; if anything is going to happen we have to think differently to bodybuilding 'science'.

It may be that once you pass your early 20s, at the very latest, your potential is gone. Chemical PE may be best considered as an adjunct to manual PE. (I hope no one takes this as an excuse to be reckless with their hormones at a young age, it is massively complex and dangerous to fuck around with at any age.)

Maybe something like TCC can be the catalyst, but as you say it has only been tested on immature rats so we can't extrapolate and that's without even considering the differences in downregulation. I fear the answer will end up in the way of some distant genetic therapy, not in the realms of the at-home tinkerer.

 

[gogmazog]

Triclocarban , it's works only if you know how to use it !
For whose who have pure triclocarban they must know following the study on rats that they must combine it with testosterone , yes triclocarban increase or potentiate the effects of testo , use triclocarban with pure dmso to favorise penetration .
I've got some pure Triclocarban and dilute it in glycerin and dmso , all i can say it's works not phenomenal but enough , perhaps need to use it much long time then 15 days.
Good luck

 

[beachbay]

Triclocarban , it's works only if you know how to use it !
For whose who have pure triclocarban they must know following the study on rats that they must combine it with testosterone , yes triclocarban increase or potentiate the effects of testo , use triclocarban with pure dmso to favorise penetration .
I've got some pure Triclocarban and dilute it in glycerin and dmso , all i can say it's works not phenomenal but enough , perhaps need to use it much long time then 15 days.
Good luck

Gonna need a detailed report of what you did, and only 1 post? Also what gains did you see in 15 days? Length or girth?

Also triclocarban is very hard to get a hold of where did you get yours?

 

[wish-4-8]

Dial soap has triclocarban at .30%-.60%. But I remember reading the negative effect of the active ingredient. I bought a 12 pack because I love the scent, but thew it away the remander after reading the article.

 

[pfm]

I know I'm jumping into this thread late, but what I'm understanding from the original post is that the rats were castrated while young and are test subjects for testosterone research. In this study, TCC enhanced the effects of injected testosterone and they saw remarkable reactions to the testosterone treatments. So unless you are preadolescent, or you were castrated young, or experienced low testosterone throughout your life or you are female; you're wasting your time. My understanding is that testosterone has to be converted to DHT which is the catalyst for penis and clitoris growth.

 

[Kingsize1]

Hello all,
found triclocarban on ebay will order soon 5 grams of tcc , test it and inform everybody if it work or not, does anyone has an idea where to get DHT ? following the studie seems better than testosterone.

 

[Pegasus]

I know I'm jumping into this thread late, but what I'm understanding from the original post is that the rats were castrated while young and are test subjects for testosterone research. In this study, TCC enhanced the effects of injected testosterone and they saw remarkable reactions to the testosterone treatments. So unless you are preadolescent, or you were castrated young, or experienced low testosterone throughout your life or you are female; you're wasting your time. My understanding is that testosterone has to be converted to DHT which is the catalyst for penis and clitoris growth.

Read this guys.

 

[beachbay]

Hello all,
found triclocarban on ebay will order soon 5 grams of tcc , test it and inform everybody if it work or not, does anyone has an idea where to get DHT ? following the studie seems better than testosterone.

Honestly i would stay away from that sort of thing.

It has been found to be a hormone distributor, meaning it could either wreck your endocrine system forever or your hormones could drop or fall.. that stuff scares me.