The Pheonix ED shock wave machine at home

[HG1]

Sorry to say, you wasted your money on that Phoenix unit I contacted the company, and they told me that their unit is a Class 1 device. ALL research articles, in vetted journals, pertaining to shock wave therapy, involve Class 2 devices. I found one by contacting a major manufacturer that supplies men's clinics. They start at, around, $4-$5G's, for the consumer.

OTOH, if the placebo effect works, for you, good on you!

 

[NunyaBidness]

any updates?

 

[Roguish75]

Sorry to say, you wasted your money on that Phoenix unit I contacted the company, and they told me that their unit is a Class 1 device. ALL research articles, in vetted journals, pertaining to shock wave therapy, involve Class 2 devices. I found one by contacting a major manufacturer that supplies men's clinics. They start at, around, $4-$5G's, for the consumer.

OTOH, if the placebo effect works, for you, good on you!

the fact that studies are on class2 devices in no way means class 1 doesnt work. It means in scientific studies they havent been proven to work. There are also I bet no studies showing they DONT work. I bet they havent been studied at all.

Your post was neither based on logic or scientific method.

 

[nnjxj4]

Hey Motor23,

Was wondering how you were progressing and wanted to ask if you had already heard of or tried adding TENS therapy to strengthen the pelvic floor. I will say it is a huge mindfu*k at first but what got me to finally try it out was the reviews on line and tons of medical research. While there aren't as many studies focusing on venous leakage specifically you can find a few showing positive improvement in that regards even tho the focus of the studies tend to be more incontinence focused. One study i found off the bat i listed below. Again it's primary medical use is incontinence but those muscles also support erection tone and quality. At the very least while it may not be a cure it can very likely help reduce the severity of symptoms and you'll see a results much more quickly then legals alone. My recommendation is check it out, do the research, get comfortable with the idea, don't fear it and try it out following a regine you can find online. I'd be happy to point you to the products I've tried if you like but honestly a quick Amazon search will find the commercial one i tried that worked fine. There are medically device grade equipment meant for rehab clinics as well. And while it may not be what you want to hear but it sounds like your solution is gonna be a multi-prong approach that you'll only fully figure out over time and trial and error and patience. Just remember you have a community here that wants to see your post end in a success story for you and all of us. We are rooting for you and I promise your not alone while your figuring this out. Okay? We got you as best we can.


Now on a side note to anyone reading this....anyone ever hear of this Phoenix device being sold second hand bc sadly i just can't afford it and keep catching myself almost going into debt at 2am when i tend to sleep-shop if that's a thing. Heh. I know I've seen similar devices on eBay but honestly they seem too technical. Can anyone here recommend any of those acoustic wave devices? Anyone? Buehler?

Jay-

Study mentioned above:

https://www.semanticscholar.org/pap...erdt/b796f71ea2d53d680664c06fb76c1611024d9f7b

 

[Dangler]

Interesting study nnmjxj4, good luck !