The Official Hard Flaccid Recovery Thread

[m3232]

Well doesn't anyone else think its getting a bit ridiculous with people who insist the only way around hf is with oobitoo voodoo and stevies 'methods'
People need to know that these guys had serious fucking mental health issues and its that that their method deals with
The majority of guys will smash the sh*t out of hf in a month or a few.
Its people who beat it effectively and relatively quickly who should be giving advice.
Not people who suffered for years.
Hf is a self inflicted condition
U can indulge it for a decade or snap out of it with positive thinking.
Doesn't that make the slightest bit of sense?
Someone said that I was 'bashing' its not like that at all.
Im saying everything voodoo says is right but its actually a pretty intimidating prospect for guys to follow as the only example of recovery.
Dont you get that?
Like, to recover from this you must be reborn and follow these instructions.
While everything in the mmethodvis useful its one guys marathon mission to recovery.
Its not the only way to recover.
In some ways it will actually make it more difficult to recover than it could be.
The guys with the elaborate cure are the long term guys who are responsible for creating and reinforcing hf hysteria which is actually the cheif cause of this condition.

 

[JohnnyFertuda]

It's hard to battle through this thread. m3232, what did you do to combat HF?

I honestly feel like distraction, abstinence and light kegels are helping short term but it comes back in waves sometimes, which is disheartening.

 

[HFrecovering]

Well doesn't anyone else think its getting a bit ridiculous with people who insist the only way around hf is with oobitoo voodoo and stevies 'methods'
People need to know that these guys had serious fucking mental health issues and its that that their method deals with
The majority of guys will smash the sh*t out of hf in a month or a few.
Its people who beat it effectively and relatively quickly who should be giving advice.
Not people who suffered for years.
Hf is a self inflicted condition
U can indulge it for a decade or snap out of it with positive thinking.
Doesn't that make the slightest bit of sense?
Someone said that I was 'bashing' its not like that at all.
Im saying everything voodoo says is right but its actually a pretty intimidating prospect for guys to follow as the only example of recovery.
Dont you get that?
Like, to recover from this you must be reborn and follow these instructions.
While everything in the mmethodvis useful its one guys marathon mission to recovery.
Its not the only way to recover.
In some ways it will actually make it more difficult to recover than it could be.
The guys with the elaborate cure are the long term guys who are responsible for creating and reinforcing hf hysteria which is actually the cheif cause of this condition.

you say they had serious mental health issues. everyone that has HF has mental health issues. it is why they get into a panic and start ranting about peyronies and nerve injurys so your point is invalid. and please show me multiple cases of people that come out of this in 3 months or less with positive thinking because ive only come across two and you are one of them. im not saying it has to be overly complicated and stressful to deal with it but positive thinking is not going to cure an anxiety issue.

 

[m3232]

No. You are wrong. Not everyone who has hf has mental health issues.
Basically everyone who has a penis injury gets it.
People who go long term are dealing with performance anxiety which mimics and increases the duration of their original hf symptoms

 

[mikecares]

No. You are wrong. Not everyone who has hf has mental health issues.
Basically everyone who has a penis injury gets it.
People who go long term are dealing with performance anxiety which mimics and increases the duration of their original hf symptoms

Did you do any therapy to heal or just abstain? I'm 1 month of abstaining (aka been abstaining since I got the injury end of may). I notice some difference but to be honest, not much. I do pelvic relaxation exercises everyday and some pelvic trigger points release (with a therapist and myself). Don't notice a huge difference.

I hook up with girls and get strong erections but don't have sex or get blow jobs. I'm living a good life but its always in the back of my head but its not driving me insane like the first week.

 

[mrmiyagi]

Mike, you didn't even touch your penis that seriously if I recall, like dude, why don't you try using your dick. It's been a month now. my hard flaccid symptoms went away (though I still have pelvic problems) after I got a bj after abstaining for 2 weeks

 

[mikecares]

Mike, you didn't even touch your penis that seriously if I recall, like dude, why don't you try using your dick. It's been a month now. my hard flaccid symptoms went away (though I still have pelvic problems) after I got a bj after abstaining for 2 weeks

you are right, I didn't. but I still have hf symptoms. erection quality is not good and glands are not really that Hard during an erection. also, from what I've read, hard flacvid symptoms get worse after ejaculation because of the release of noradrenaline, which causes the penis to retract. u said u don't have problems getting an erection, which is a good thing but I do have trouble (with manual touch atleast). I don't see how having sex would improve it right now....at least from what I've read from people's experiences

 

[mrmiyagi]

because by not having sex and freaking out you're causing yourself even more tension (possibly).

once i saw that my dick was working and bringing me pleasure i felt psychologically relieved in addition to the physical catharsis. like think about it, the ejacultaion is like a release of tension in itself.

 

[mikecares]

because by not having sex and freaking out you're causing yourself even more tension (possibly).

once i saw that my dick was working and bringing me pleasure i felt psychologically relieved in addition to the physical catharsis. like think about it, the ejacultaion is like a release of tension in itself.

yeah you are right in that sense...but at the same time so many pplz continued to have sex and masterbate with hf early on in their condition and made it worse...it sounds like your HF symptoms aren't that bad...like you said u can get an erection easily.

 

[longerlastingnoob]

Well doesn't anyone else think its getting a bit ridiculous with people who insist the only way around hf is with oobitoo voodoo and stevies 'methods'
People need to know that these guys had serious fucking mental health issues and its that that their method deals with
The majority of guys will smash the sh*t out of hf in a month or a few.
Its people who beat it effectively and relatively quickly who should be giving advice.
Not people who suffered for years.
Hf is a self inflicted condition
U can indulge it for a decade or snap out of it with positive thinking.
Doesn't that make the slightest bit of sense?
Someone said that I was 'bashing' its not like that at all.
Im saying everything voodoo says is right but its actually a pretty intimidating prospect for guys to follow as the only example of recovery.
Dont you get that?
Like, to recover from this you must be reborn and follow these instructions.
While everything in the mmethodvis useful its one guys marathon mission to recovery.
Its not the only way to recover.
In some ways it will actually make it more difficult to recover than it could be.
The guys with the elaborate cure are the long term guys who are responsible for creating and reinforcing hf hysteria which is actually the cheif cause of this condition.

Well said.

 

[m3232]

Did you do any therapy to heal or just abstain? I'm 1 month of abstaining (aka been abstaining since I got the injury end of may). I notice some difference but to be honest, not much. I do pelvic relaxation exercises everyday and some pelvic trigger points release (with a therapist and myself). Don't notice a huge difference.

I hook up with girls and get strong erections but don't have sex or get blow jobs. I'm living a good life but its always in the back of my head but its not driving me insane like the first week.

Said it yourself mike. Its always at the back of your head.
Stop mincing around your dick
Give it a gentle stretch.
If you're turtled up like hf, manhandle your dick like you just got out of a ice cold bath and youre shrivelled.
Start to totally put the whole injury behind you mentally.
Change your whole attitude towards your dick. Its not a fragile organ.
You were rough with it, it got injured, but now its better.
But now you're not approaching your own dick like a man.
Its a crazy thing but injury makes us afraid of our dicks.
All the exercises, squats are great but they are really just causing guys to meditate obssesively over their penis.
We have seen in the first semester that pe works.
It can take your penis from a to b.
Give your injured 4 weeks to heal.
Then start very gentle, positive mental pe.

 

[mikecares]

Said it yourself mike. Its always at the back of your head.
Stop mincing around your dick
Give it a gentle stretch.
If you're turtled up like hf, manhandle your dick like you just got out of a ice cold bath and youre shrivelled.
Start to totally put the whole injury behind you mentally.
Change your whole attitude towards your dick. Its not a fragile organ.
You were rough with it, it got injured, but now its better.
But now you're not approaching your own dick like a man.
Its a crazy thing but injury makes us afraid of our dicks.
All the exercises, squats are great but they are really just causing guys to meditate obssesively over their penis.
We have seen in the first semester that pe works.
It can take your penis from a to b.
Give your injured 4 weeks to heal.
Then start very gentle, positive mental pe.

I agree man. I'm gonna give it 4 weeks. but at the same time, you always know you have an injury and it will cross your mind...especially since it's your sexual function.

your basically saying to ignore it 100 percent which is impossible. I have neck and back pain and it's impossible to ignore it as well. anyways, I'm just asking how long it took to heal for you.

 

[m3232]

Im not sayin ignore it 100 percent.

 

[Big Al]

Hostile arguments leading torule violations. circular/strawman reasoning, and topics repeated over and over within this same thread indicate that this thread is very close to getting locked!

 

[mikecares]

Hostile arguments leading torule violations. circular/strawman reasoning, and topics repeated over and over within this same thread indicate that this thread is very close to getting locked!

u should lock it anyways. everything has just been repeated over and over again

 

[m3232]

Yeah whatever big al said.
There are two kinds of hard flaccid case. Short term and long term.
Short term is a physical aftereffect of injury, long term is a severe anxiety issues.
It doesn't need lock but it needs a well signposted fork in the road.
Hf 3 months or less? Chill.
Hf 3 month or more? Submit application for drama school.
Big al its a recovery thread. People are going through the same sh*t obviously. For evere recovery there is a new victim. Hence the cyclical nature of the thread.
Better to be cyclical than hoodoo voodoo youdo what ido for everyone And Iif you dobt do what I do then you do have issues.
Its a cyclical condition so let people cycle it out.
Whats your problem? ?
Its a recovery thread not a finite guide to recovery.
Wind it in

 

[m3232]

A dick injury presents one of two issues.
The first is a malfunctioning dick that can be dealt with practically, efficiently, calmly and with very little (bar the initial freakout) drama.
The second is a vastly elongated and dramatised version of the first.
And the elongation of the condition is representative of the dramatisation of the recovery.
Hence the duality or 'a bit of turtling' and 'chronic hf'

 

[m3232]

Torule violations.
Why don't you write a melancholic whimsical pseudo dickensien distopian tragi-comedy about it

 

[JohnnyFertuda]

I think everyone would benefit from a more concise thread that isn't confused by this VoodooChild & Friends vs m3232 debate. All of the good posts have been lost in a sea of posts disagreeing about the minor complexities surrounding a solid set of principles regarding healthy habits and rehabilitation for recovering the penis. Nobody who's freaking out about their hard flaccid wants to read a needless argument between people who seemingly are trying to help but are just cluttering the thread. Really all they should read here is that they're going to be okay as long as they take time and follow some simple instructions, as well as receive support from other sufferers.

 

[rarara1]

A dick injury presents one of two issues.
The first is a malfunctioning dick that can be dealt with practically, efficiently, calmly and with very little (bar the initial freakout) drama.
The second is a vastly elongated and dramatised version of the first.
And the elongation of the condition is representative of the dramatisation of the recovery.
Hence the duality or 'a bit of turtling' and 'chronic hf'

I know I wasn't going to log back in here but I just couldn't help but congratulate you on uncovering the secret to health and well being where everyone else who has ever lived before you has failed. I mean what does Sarno know, Eric Robins MD, the creators of EFT, faster EFT, TRE, psychologists - they are only people who work at successfully treating these problems every single day of their life. They should have just skipped all of their lives work and training and spoke to you, PE Gym forum member M3232 - The Chosen One, The Messiah, The Cure. Who cares about the unconscious mind when you can so easily just calm your entire mind, body and soul by ensuring yourself this is simply a sprain and you have no underlying problems which you need to deal with. It's perfectly normal to spend your free time stretching your dick. Man I wish I had spoken to you 4 years ago instead of going through a long healing journey to wellness.