Yep, it makes sense
Your technique is basically what I've been trying lately! Ballooning close to the PONR gives you greater stimulation and makes it harder for you to resist so I guess it's a good training.
The Death Grip
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Yep, it makes sense
Your technique is basically what I've been trying lately! Ballooning close to the PONR gives you greater stimulation and makes it harder for you to resist so I guess it's a good training.
Yep, it makes sense
No. It's the opposite. The deathgrip/edging is the most and you switch to ballooning for less stimulation at PONR, unless you are ballooning very crazy and stimulating your most intense spot too much.
Get it?
James, what would you recommend if I get a big number of IK's (seem weak ones but they are there) like getting one in every stroke?
I would say you are super semsitive.
Stop watching porn completely,
Don't use lube and light touches/strokes. Use the death grip no lube slowly making it tighter every 1-2 weeks. Start with a regular tighter Than usual grip.
So.. Slow stroking velocity and rubing sensitive parts with no sensual/light form.
May I do it every night if I'm able to? How about the time/duration?
Thank you so much.
Sure!!! that's exactly what I was doing before the death grip and it prob helped me quiet a bit before switching over.
So how long of a workout (or how many reps) should i do starting out? and how long of a workout (or reps) should i aim to progress to?
Hi guys!
First of all: English is not my firts language.
My headline: on the way to a total cure of fucking P.E.?
My story:
I have been following this forum for quite a while due to the obvious reason: I've been suffering from severe P.E. for the last two and a half years. Before that I was never able to go on for a very long time but was I was quite o.k. with my 10-15 minutes. It all started after I had broken up with my last girlfriend and started to watch porn excessivley and tried to masturbate (with a soft grip) to come as quickly as possible.
To make a long story short: I met a net girl one year ago and wanted to overcome my P.E. In the beginning I was constantly trying to get as drunk as possible to be able to last at least a couple of seconds. Slowly and steadily my performance increase but I never stopped my porn/masturbation routine and was therefore never able to overcome my problem. Sometimes I could last for quite some time and the next day I would again come after some soft touches. Two or three months ago my P.E. came back full force. I actually never found what happened. I was diagnoses of having chronical Lyme-disease only three weeks ago. It is a strange disease with millions of possible symptoms. One of them is that it can cause inflammation of the prostate. So it might be that my prostate got infected again and that causes my P.E. to come back full force. A doctor told me that the disease is actually quite widespread and goes unnoticed very often. Just in case you have tried everything and still aren't able to see any improvements.
So I started my journey of battling P.E. again, found a German speaking forum first and then this one. I started a Kegel routine first and tried edging. No improvement at all. I could edge for 30 Minutes, sometimes even one hour. Watching porn at the same time and still cum after seconds with my girl. That was two weeks ago. Since the last week I have seen dramatic improvements. I am still not entirely sure which factors have actually contributed to it but I will tell you what I have added to my routine.
During the last six months I have tried many herbs and other stuff, like 5-htp. Nothing worked. Until I started to use a homeopathic drug called "baryta carbonica". This drug costs nothing in Austria and I found some reviews (you won't find many) on it on a "homeopathic forum". I won't write down the adress so you guys don't think that I wanna sell yoi something. Just google: "baryta carbonica premature ejaculation" and you will find the forum.
I have been taking the stuff since three or four days and what can I tell you: I have experienced serious improvement (real sex and masturbation).
I have also started to use the "death grip" a couple of days ago. I think yesterday was my third or fourth sesson. Even though I was in a very bad mood which normally is a guarantee for busting a nut after a couple of minutes I could masturbate (with a very hard grip) for at least an hour. I have never felt so much in control in my whole entire life. Even when I felt the PONR coming closer I would still have control. Strange. So I really don't know if the drug contributes to my "healing" process but masturbating with a very tight grip and no lube defenitely is a winner. My penis even feels different during the day. I think the main difference is that I can't feel any involuntary twitches of my PC muscles any longer.
So that's my story. I am really hopeful that I can be cured within the next couple of weeks.
I would be very interested if somebody tried the homepathic drug and if you find that it improves your performance.
Thanx guys for all the inspiration!
First of all: English is not my firts language.
My headline: on the way to a total cure of fucking P.E.?
My story:
I have been following this forum for quite a while due to the obvious reason: I've been suffering from severe P.E. for the last two and a half years. Before that I was never able to go on for a very long time but was I was quite o.k. with my 10-15 minutes. It all started after I had broken up with my last girlfriend and started to watch porn excessivley and tried to masturbate (with a soft grip) to come as quickly as possible.
To make a long story short: I met a net girl one year ago and wanted to overcome my P.E. In the beginning I was constantly trying to get as drunk as possible to be able to last at least a couple of seconds. Slowly and steadily my performance increase but I never stopped my porn/masturbation routine and was therefore never able to overcome my problem. Sometimes I could last for quite some time and the next day I would again come after some soft touches. Two or three months ago my P.E. came back full force. I actually never found what happened. I was diagnoses of having chronical Lyme-disease only three weeks ago. It is a strange disease with millions of possible symptoms. One of them is that it can cause inflammation of the prostate. So it might be that my prostate got infected again and that causes my P.E. to come back full force. A doctor told me that the disease is actually quite widespread and goes unnoticed very often. Just in case you have tried everything and still aren't able to see any improvements.
So I started my journey of battling P.E. again, found a German speaking forum first and then this one. I started a Kegel routine first and tried edging. No improvement at all. I could edge for 30 Minutes, sometimes even one hour. Watching porn at the same time and still cum after seconds with my girl. That was two weeks ago. Since the last week I have seen dramatic improvements. I am still not entirely sure which factors have actually contributed to it but I will tell you what I have added to my routine.
During the last six months I have tried many herbs and other stuff, like 5-htp. Nothing worked. Until I started to use a homeopathic drug called "baryta carbonica". This drug costs nothing in Austria and I found some reviews (you won't find many) on it on a "homeopathic forum". I won't write down the adress so you guys don't think that I wanna sell yoi something. Just google: "baryta carbonica premature ejaculation" and you will find the forum.
I have been taking the stuff since three or four days and what can I tell you: I have experienced serious improvement (real sex and masturbation).
I have also started to use the "death grip" a couple of days ago. I think yesterday was my third or fourth sesson. Even though I was in a very bad mood which normally is a guarantee for busting a nut after a couple of minutes I could masturbate (with a very hard grip) for at least an hour. I have never felt so much in control in my whole entire life. Even when I felt the PONR coming closer I would still have control. Strange. So I really don't know if the drug contributes to my "healing" process but masturbating with a very tight grip and no lube defenitely is a winner. My penis even feels different during the day. I think the main difference is that I can't feel any involuntary twitches of my PC muscles any longer.
So that's my story. I am really hopeful that I can be cured within the next couple of weeks.
I would be very interested if somebody tried the homepathic drug and if you find that it improves your performance.
Thanx guys for all the inspiration!
Read multiple posts on this forum and this is the only one that makes sense to me.
Will be giving this a shot immediately. Hoping it works. Have not seen any posts from guys saying if it has applied positively to sex/bj's though.
Thanks JM
Will be giving this a shot immediately. Hoping it works. Have not seen any posts from guys saying if it has applied positively to sex/bj's though.
Thanks JM
You're very welcome and yes of course ot applies to sex and BJs.
It os proven to work for better sex and BJs by me and others here and it has been proven to cause delayed ejac(negative/bad thing) by members here and most importantly, doctors. The goal/secret is to take it easy and not let it get to the negative delayed ejaculation stage, rather, right before.
Most guys that have given themselves DE by death grip have done it hard and fast without lube. Never masturbate to porn until you are cured.
Today i tried the deathgrip for first time. First i wanna say i can edge as long as i want no matter with porn or not. During my edging session with the deathgrip today i used porn. My lube was finished so i did it without lube. Hey guys its really different with the deathgrip. The ponr came after 2 mins maybe (i was only breathing deep and stayed relaxed). The only thing i found helpful was the reverse kegel, BUT ONLY WHEN I EXHALED after a deep breath. So i took a deep breath, then exhale and then some quick but hard rks after exhaling. I found it much easier to locate the front rk after exhaling. I did a long and very hard one rk when i tried very very fast stimulation. It helped. I could do it really a lot of time. After 20 minutes of hard and very fast eding with dg and maybe non stop hard reverse kegeling i did a hard voluntary regular kegel to ejaculate because the porn was really hot.
How do u think can that be helpful during penetration and thursting in real act?
How do u think can that be helpful during penetration and thursting in real act?
The point of death grip is that the tight grip get you used to tightness tighter than any vagina. It is also for desensitizing you a little. You have to have the skin of your hand rubbing across/against the most sensitive paarts of your penis.(head, frenulum, etc....)
If you're incircumsized or not and you're going WITH your skin, you're doing it wrong. There has to be friction. Keep experimenting and add ballooning in there too.
I believe that as long as you are not touching your self lightly and using sensual things like lube or other devices, then you will get better. I think it's the light touching sensual touching and lube that causes hypersensitivity and regular/uncontrolable Kegel spasms.
If you're incircumsized or not and you're going WITH your skin, you're doing it wrong. There has to be friction. Keep experimenting and add ballooning in there too.
I believe that as long as you are not touching your self lightly and using sensual things like lube or other devices, then you will get better. I think it's the light touching sensual touching and lube that causes hypersensitivity and regular/uncontrolable Kegel spasms.
I I didnt ejaculate from my last deathgrip edging session before 2 days.Today i tried to stimulate my head and glans only without my skin with tight grip with hot porn and it was so damn arrousing. I was 100 %errected all the time.I think the key here is to go without the skin only hard stimulating of the most sensitive parts. It was very hard to control. James, i think thats the best way to learning to control during real sex. I will do my edging sessions from now with deathgrip and porn included for maximum feelings. My goal is 30 minutes. Is that okey how do u think?
Ok so ive been doing alot of things ive learned on this site for the past month and a half roughly. Mainly reverse kegals, breathing exercises, stretches for pelvic floor and some basic jelqs. Ive read much of this thread a few times but am curious about this deathgrip like many others but i didn't want to jump right into it or do it improperly and injure myself. But this theory is one that makes the most sense to me. As soon as i read the first few pages a while back when i read about " using a light sensual lubed grip" i completely thought of my life long masterbating habits. I just wanted clarification on the technique. I know it is hard to explain, but will ask anyway.
Ok if doing the DG dry is best situation is best do I...
1. grab my dick like i normally do. I have always used my entire hand wrapped around.
2. Begin stroking. The grip is tighter and dry and the skin on dick sort of goes with the stroke and rolls over the head. For a visual, when i get to the top of the stroke my skin rolling over the head resembles a turtle pulling his head into his shell? I am circumcised btw.
If i am incorrect please let me know. I just dont understand. This is the way i am envisioning. The grip tighter ( not strangling) would cause skin to go with your strokes. A lighter stroke dry would just be more like grazing over the skin.
3. So is it the skin of my dick rolling over the head or are you supposed to stop the stroke before that point and stimulate the glans, head with an open finger or thumb and grazing the sensitive area?
I know my issue is not really mental because honestly i am pretty calm in the heat of the moment. In fact the only time i am nervous or have anxiety is after i blow my load in a minute. That is when i become frustrated
Thanks in advance guys.
Ok if doing the DG dry is best situation is best do I...
1. grab my dick like i normally do. I have always used my entire hand wrapped around.
2. Begin stroking. The grip is tighter and dry and the skin on dick sort of goes with the stroke and rolls over the head. For a visual, when i get to the top of the stroke my skin rolling over the head resembles a turtle pulling his head into his shell? I am circumcised btw.
If i am incorrect please let me know. I just dont understand. This is the way i am envisioning. The grip tighter ( not strangling) would cause skin to go with your strokes. A lighter stroke dry would just be more like grazing over the skin.
3. So is it the skin of my dick rolling over the head or are you supposed to stop the stroke before that point and stimulate the glans, head with an open finger or thumb and grazing the sensitive area?
I know my issue is not really mental because honestly i am pretty calm in the heat of the moment. In fact the only time i am nervous or have anxiety is after i blow my load in a minute. That is when i become frustrated
Thanks in advance guys.
Skin can move WITH the hand on the shaft as long as its tight but skin should NOT go over penis head. That does NOT create friction. Pull your foreskin back and stimulate penis head and under head with twists.
The point is to rub/create friction so that you cause microscopic tears in the skin that rebuild a bit more tougher skin in that area and for penis to feel a tighter grip to get ready for tight vaginas.
And STOP MASTURBATING WITH PORN. it is not good when you have prem ejac!!!
*rub penis head with full palm with twists. experiment with it. Use thumb, palm, fingers, whatever.
NO PORN!!!
The point is to rub/create friction so that you cause microscopic tears in the skin that rebuild a bit more tougher skin in that area and for penis to feel a tighter grip to get ready for tight vaginas.
And STOP MASTURBATING WITH PORN. it is not good when you have prem ejac!!!
*rub penis head with full palm with twists. experiment with it. Use thumb, palm, fingers, whatever.
NO PORN!!!
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