Step-By-Step Bundled/Corkscrew Stretch (Caution; Pictures are thumbnails)

[weggde1]

Hi everyone, and thanks to Millia for posting this. Been lurking for a while now, and PEing for about 4/5 months. However, it wasn't serious until now, so I'm just goin to be annoying noob because I want to clear a couple of things up and make sure I am doing stuff correctly (or trying to)

1. I think I was stretching wrongly before (holding too near to the base of the penis) however, I am following the reccomendations laid out here - I am uncircumcised, and basically if I kegel when doing stretches, (these or normal stretches), i find that the 'pull' from the kegel pulls hte penis head ack so that my hand is gripping it, which I figure is bad - if I stretch 'upward' I can hardly stretch at all because of the thing about the head retracting and going underneath my fingers.. any comments on this please ?

2. Frankly, I have no idea how hard to 'stretch', I think I could pull as hard as I would want and it wouldn't hurt (I haven't).. but basically, I have no size gains from the PEing I've done so far, but my penis definitely feels better and it feels more liek the 'jelly' type I remember reading it should feel like...

....So, I am going to take it seriously and try and follow a 2 days on / 1 off or even 3 days on / 1 off. (I do a lot of sport and can judge my 'overtraining' pretty well.) As I said, from the work I've done so far it feels a lot better so I'm going to really try and put the time in. From TGC theory I think I def def def need a longer tunica, so I am trying to get this stretching down a bit better.

Oh also, stretching going straight out is ok though... (it's mainly stretching up that gives the head retraction problem). And in case anyone cares, my haphazard 'routine' before involved warming up, stretching, and jelqing, so I believe the conditioning is coming along.

Thanks to everyone, seems like a great community here.

 

[millia]

Hello Weggde and welcome to the Gym brother!
You do not want to be gripping your glans in any way when stretching you want to be just below the glans and that can include gripping on your foreskin (just not the head!) You do not need to kegel when you stretch, I actually find that when I am just stretching it is counter productive because it changes my grip up.
You don't need to pull as hard as you can because you can end up permanently and seriously damaging your penis, but you want to stretch it so you feel a tug, and pull on your penis. If a 10 would be yanking your dick with a lot of force and a 1 would be stretching it out lightly you want to be at roughly a 6~7.
I suggest that since you're posting here, you're thinking about bundled stretches, well I wouldn't try them just yet if I were you. Even though you've been doing 4-5 months of PE, start doing something consistent by starting JP's 90 Day Beginner Routine, it yields gains to most members that start out using it. After you complete it your penis will be conditioned for advanced stretches like the bundled stretch!
Also if you have any other questions, feel free to ask brother!

 

[weggde1]

Thanks very much for the advice man, sorry the post was so long. Will rest for few days and then start afresh on JPs.

 

[millia]

Not a problem, just glad I could help you out.
Also I'd suggest you start a progress log so other members can view what you're doing and make suggestions and give you advice on what you're doing as well, very useful tool and helps you stay consistent.

 

[Gravik]

Sweet, thanks Militia!

And are these for mainly the tunica? Or?

 

[kingpole]

Great threa Millia,

 

[Gravik]

Millia, sorry

 

[fisch28]

Wow...bundled hanging, interesting.

Got me into thinking of using my extender bundled...but that just seems like a road to disaster..

 

[millia]

Sweet, thanks Militia!

And are these for mainly the tunica? Or?

Yes these will target the hell out of your tunica and give it a great workout!
No problem!

Great threa Millia,

Thanks, and its a sticky now, thank you sir.

Wow...bundled hanging, interesting.

Got me into thinking of using my extender bundled...but that just seems like a road to disaster..

I don't think that'd be a good idea because you only hold the bundle as G4 said in an earlier post for 30 seconds max. I would say the absolute longest that one should hold it would be a minute, but I'm not a pro, but due to the intensity that would seem the best route to go.

 

[Stumpy]

Well you might be tunica limited, have you read the TGC theory? If you do a normal bundled stretch and then pull with resistance against the stretch you might be able to deform that tunica a little bit easier. Just a theory though.

I'd decided to focus more heavily on length (mainly via hanging) and I stumbled on the bundled stretch ... which I'm now combining with the hanging. I've skimmed TGC Theory and the tunica may be the limiting factor ... so I'm hopeful that 'listening' to my body has taken me in the right direction.

My wife is away this week so I'll get a good consistent week of PE in. I'm hoping I get some signs but, if not, the coming weeks and months should tell.

 

[weggde1]

Sorry again for the post hijack - just wanted a quick confirmation please. Starting the JP routine tonight:

'Grasp your penis at the base firmly, in the O.K. grip, palms faceing down.'

I was practising this yesterday, and well, it feels weird as hell. It feels a lot 'easier' to do it the other way, with palm up facing you.... Am I being an asshole lol, do I just need to shut up and do it with palms facing down, or is this something I can 'edit'? hahaha. Thanks.

 

[millia]

Sorry again for the post hijack - just wanted a quick confirmation please. Starting the JP routine tonight:

'Grasp your penis at the base firmly, in the O.K. grip, palms faceing down.'

I was practising this yesterday, and well, it feels weird as hell. It feels a lot 'easier' to do it the other way, with palm up facing you.... Am I being an asshole lol, do I just need to shut up and do it with palms facing down, or is this something I can 'edit'? hahaha. Thanks.

Well that is the best way to do it and it allows you to get most of the penis instead of being limited because of your fingers in the way. The way with your palm facing down allows you to get blood pumping and flowing through your base a lot more then it does with palm up. Unless you want a baseball bat looking penis (skinny base and thicker up to the glans) then you can do whatever you want, but it is highly recommended that you do palms down so your penis is getting an equal workout.

 

[volta]

so is this the famed mandingo stretch?

 

[millia]

No the two are different.
Mandingo Stretch+Pictures

 

[volta]

No the two are different.
Mandingo Stretch+Pictures

ah, i see. thanks. both stretches look interesting.

has anyone seen gains from either one?

 

[weggde1]

Well that is the best way to do it and it allows you to get most of the penis instead of being limited because of your fingers in the way. The way with your palm facing down allows you to get blood pumping and flowing through your base a lot more then it does with palm up. Unless you want a baseball bat looking penis (skinny base and thicker up to the glans) then you can do whatever you want, but it is highly recommended that you do palms down so your penis is getting an equal workout.

Ok frankly, I'm willing to do whatever I'm told lol -

https://www.pegym.com/free-penis-enlargement-exercises-guide/how-does-jelqing-work-jelq-techniques-jelquing

Basicaly I'm saying if I jelq like this, eg with the palm down (obv the fingers are up in the air but I think you understand me), it's hard to do because my hands get in the way of one another and the new hand (at the base) ends up pushing and dislodging the hand that's holding at the end under the glans - I have no idea really how far up the shaft I am also, because the back of hte hand covers the view. Either way, I tuck my fingers out of hte way so i can start as close to the base as possible, though trying it I can see why you are saying that it's better to go palm down or overhand as it were, because you cna really get in tight to the base. Palm up, the fingers get in the way a little. Perhaps it's just me lol.

Thanks again, will do another session tonight.

 

[maelsukr]

Thanks millia , I'm going to use these in my routine . I'm doing 4 flaccid compressive squeezes to target my glans .
I'll add 4 of these . Don't want to get too crazy with them till I can judge if I'm overdoing .
My timing is 30 seconds , each .
Does this seem to much to start with ?

 

[millia]

ah, i see. thanks. both stretches look interesting.

has anyone seen gains from either one?

I'm pretty sure G4 has seen some modest gains from it!

Basicaly I'm saying if I jelq like this, eg with the palm down (obv the fingers are up in the air but I think you understand me), it's hard to do because my hands get in the way of one another and the new hand (at the base) ends up pushing and dislodging the hand that's holding at the end under the glans - I have no idea really how far up the shaft I am also, because the back of hte hand covers the view. Either way, I tuck my fingers out of hte way so i can start as close to the base as possible, though trying it I can see why you are saying that it's better to go palm down or overhand as it were, because you cna really get in tight to the base. Palm up, the fingers get in the way a little. Perhaps it's just me lol.

Thanks again, will do another session tonight.

Well your best bet is that you're starting your second rep too early. Are you cut or uncut? With just one hand jelq up to below your glans and then hold it there and start your other rep, it is not neccessary that you have both hands on your unit when you jelq, lord knows I don't. I do a rep and as I'm finishing my first one I just put my hand down there to get ready, but never hold it. Maybe you should consider doing this? What are your starting stats?

Thanks millia , I'm going to use these in my routine . I'm doing 4 flaccid compressive squeezes to target my glans .
I'll add 4 of these . Don't want to get too crazy with them till I can judge if I'm overdoing .
My timing is 30 seconds , each .
Does this seem to much to start with ?

30 Seconds each seems more then appropriate mael, just take it easy on your rotations, start with a half first and work your way into a full. G4 says that you should only hold this stretch for 30 seconds maximum but when I go on my 3 week Hiatus to Hawaii I will be experimenting with it since I won't be able to hang.

 

[maelsukr]

Hey millia , I never got to try them , as after my squeezes my pecker wouldn't calm down enough to do them
correctly .
I'm taking tomorrow off as I had good routine this evening , and feel like I may be over doing again .
Don't know when you'll leave for Hawaii , but take pics and share .

 

[millia]

Well best of luck, just remember to take it easy on the bundled stretches buddy! If you want to start out playing it safe, do 15 seconds a hold and progress up to 30. Just remember to do them in each direction!
I leave on wednesday but I'm sure I'll be doing more or less the same thing that I do here, sit on my butt and browse the internet for more or less most of the day.