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He means that too many people now a days are losing what makes sex so great. Love. Making love is a term coined for just that, between 2 people that truly deeply love each other. This whole (im going into tonights session with one thing on my mind, making her squirt) is a bad view of what sex is. Sex is the most intimate, and spiritual thing in the world, and should be treated as such. When you simplify this amazing thing down to 2 people who are horny and just want to get instant gratification you are losing out on so much. If I had my way, one night stands, and sex between people that have met in less than a month wouldnt happen ever. You just cant get to know a person well enough, or be able to truly enjoy the activity to it's fullest when you have just met.

In all actuality, abstinence before marriage is the best way to live. Getting to know each other on mental, emotional, spiritual, intellectual levels is MOUNTAINS more important than anything physical. Save the physical stuff for when it can be best enjoyed, and focus on things that actually matter.
 

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I understand that, but what I don't understand is where exactly that came from and why he said it.
 

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He means that too many people now a days are losing what makes sex so great. Love. Making love is a term coined for just that, between 2 people that truly deeply love each other. This whole (im going into tonights session with one thing on my mind, making her squirt) is a bad view of what sex is. Sex is the most intimate, and spiritual thing in the world, and should be treated as such. When you simplify this amazing thing down to 2 people who are horny and just want to get instant gratification you are losing out on so much. If I had my way, one night stands, and sex between people that have met in less than a month wouldnt happen ever. You just cant get to know a person well enough, or be able to truly enjoy the activity to it's fullest when you have just met.

In all actuality, abstinence before marriage is the best way to live. Getting to know each other on mental, emotional, spiritual, intellectual levels is MOUNTAINS more important than anything physical. Save the physical stuff for when it can be best enjoyed, and focus on things that actually matter.

What better way to get to know someone then sex? When are you more vulnerable, when do you give more of yourself, over a cup of coffee or during sex? I am not talking about some 20 minute fuck session. Sex should take hours and be an event for both of you to remember.

That being said I want the person I am with to have the best experience possible, which means I should be able to give her every orgasm possible. You can make love without knowing a person. Love is nothing but a bunch of chemicals driving through your brain, and there is no better time to capitalize on those chemicals then during sex. Sex is actually key to love, the process of love can only be started by mental and emotional stimulation. To get the full chemical mind fuck you need to have sex whilst still in the midst of that stage of lust. Abstinace till marriage makes true love technically impossible lol.

Not to mention the effect it would have on the personality. You abstain till marriage one of two things is going to happen Your gonna marry the first thing you want to fuck and have a miserable life, or you'll refuse to settle and be a 40 year old virgin. For "love" to work you need emotional, mental, AND physical attraction.
 

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I agree with some of the points that both of you are making. But Dea7h7rap seems to be implying that we're all on here saying that sex is all about orgasms and squirting, and that is totally untrue. The majority of the people in this thread seem to be married or at least in a serious relationship. There is nothing wrong with trying to improve your sex life with the one you love. Sex can be very intimate and spiritual, and I can see why it would appear to some that the younger generation has lost sight of this, but that is not the case (at least not for everyone). Furthermore, even though I view sex in a similar way as you and think it should be experienced with people you care about, I see no problem whatsoever with other people wanting to have sex strictly for pleasure reasons. Sex is fun. It feels good. Who cares if some guy/girl wants to bang everything that moves? We're not the only creatures that have sex strictly for pleasure.

Phil88, I do agree that sex is a good way to learn about someone and develop a connection, but you're learning about them sexually rather than emotionally, and you're only forming a sexual connection with that person if you sleep with them before getting to know them as a person. This can lead people to think that they have a stronger connection with someone than they actually do. In my experience, my best relationships have been ones where we took time to get to know each other before having sex. And I also believe that when you have a real connection with someone it can take sex to a whole new level. One thing I disagree with is your point that you basically need to have sex to fall in love, and that abstinence until marriage makes true love impossible. I do think that before you marry someone you should know everything about them in order to determine whether or not you are really a good match, and this includes determining whether or not you have sexual chemistry. By waiting until marriage, you are running the risk of marrying someone that you don't relate to on a sexual level, and this can derail even the best relationships.


Here is an excerpt from one of my psychology books about romantic and affectionate love that I found interesting:

"Romantic love, also called passionate love, is love with strong components of sexuality and infatuation, and it often predominates in the early part of a love relationship (Hendrick & Hendrick, 2006). Ellen Berscheid (1988) says that is is romantic love we mean when we say that we are "in love" with someone. It is romantic love she believes we need to understand if we are to learn what love is all about. Berscheid believes that sexual desire is the most important ingredient of romantic love.
Love is more than just passion. Affectionate love, also called compassionate love, is the type of love that occurs when individuals desire to have the other person near and have a deep, caring affection for the person There is a growing belief that the early stages of love have more romantic ingredients and that as love matures, passion tends to give way to affection (Berscheid & Regan, 2005)."
 
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Actual love, the true chemical response. Is a short term thing. To start the process there has to be sex during the period of lust. Finding a mate to be with for a long period of time is a different thing, while I agree you can get much better results with someone you have taken the time to get to know, finding someone that initiates the chemical response will give you results immediately. Results that will actually lessen the better you get to know each other. Unless your lucky enough to fall in "love" with someone who is compatible.

Its really a matter of what you want. Intense, powerful, passionate, love that comes with continuous pain and the hurt that comes from broken relationships, or a long, safe, comforting love that comes from being together for more intellectual/emotional reasons. Ideally you would want to combine the two, but the odds of meeting that person have got to be quite low. The trick would be having enough self control to not settle for either until you find both, but you still need to have sex during the stage of lust, and just hope the rest falls into place after. I would say love takes more luck then anything.
 

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I have to disagree with you on that. Love isn't a short term thing, infatuation is. If you meet someone and hit it off and end up having sex, that doesn't mean you are now in love. Love, just like happiness or any other emotion, is a relative term. What one person may see as love may be totally different from another person. That does not mean that one is wrong and one is right, because deep human emotions are impossible to fully understand unless they are your own. Love is definitely not simple enough to be broken into two categories.

But anyways, we're totally derailing this thread. Lets talk about making pussies squirt!
 

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I just like the good ol, dripppppp cum, not to fascinated by the whole squirt thing, def not on my 1500 thread count sheets, and the Audi seats wouldn't like it either lol.
 

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Here is a very good (and very long) thread about techniques to help women have squirting orgasms.
Try This & Report Back - Literotica Discussion Board

I really like what was said here about squirts. It also is quite funny at times. Anyway, I sent it over to my FWB to try on me even though I already squirt. This little how to talks about the difference between how to teat a clit and a gspot. The guy says to beat up the gspot, to be more rough with it. OMG, did I get beat up on our first sexual session after sending this to him! I actually bled. I was extremely sore after. So I am warning, don't be too rough. He realizes he was entirely too 'aggressive'. It hurt only a little at the time.
 

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What better way to get to know someone then sex? When are you more vulnerable, when do you give more of yourself, over a cup of coffee or during sex? I am not talking about some 20 minute fuck session. Sex should take hours and be an event for both of you to remember.

That being said I want the person I am with to have the best experience possible, which means I should be able to give her every orgasm possible. You can make love without knowing a person. Love is nothing but a bunch of chemicals driving through your brain, and there is no better time to capitalize on those chemicals then during sex. Sex is actually key to love, the process of love can only be started by mental and emotional stimulation. To get the full chemical mind fuck you need to have sex whilst still in the midst of that stage of lust. Abstinace till marriage makes true love technically impossible lol.

Not to mention the effect it would have on the personality. You abstain till marriage one of two things is going to happen Your gonna marry the first thing you want to fuck and have a miserable life, or you'll refuse to settle and be a 40 year old virgin. For "love" to work you need emotional, mental, AND physical attraction.

Ok Phil...I have read your post a few times now and I am still thinking 'isn't this the guy that knows he doesn't give of himself to girls"??????? I am not saying this in a hostile manner at all. Here you talk about sex making a person all vunerable, emotions (which you are void of) and you do not give! Can you see at all how this is confusing?? I actually like you Phil so please do not think I am attacking you. I just cannot see where you are coming up with this (not saying it is untrue, I even agree with a lot) when you just fuck and thats all it is, you use women for THEIR emotions...you experience none yourself.

To everyone else, I forgot to mention on my last post that I had my longest orgasm ever. He was using the vibe on me and when I was having a squirting orgasm he didn't stop, he just kept pumping away giving me a super long orgasm. It was wild! I realize it was probably one orgasm backing another but it felt like one long one. I was coming out of my skin. If I was not squirting he probably would have thought I was faking it.
 

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Dont worry, you will find out I take criticism very well :) especially from women for some reason.

First off no one is actually void of emotion, we all do feel it. I have just spent years repressing feeling in order to gain some sort of screwed up version of self control, which has made it harder for me to connect with people because I never feel accepted. How can you not feel accepted and completely connected during sex? Sex is actually the only time I really feel even close to being connected. Before and after sex I really am a different person. Its much easier for me to "give" even in my own small way, after sex, before sex its almost impossible. However i wrote this post before reading a different post which kind of helped me figure something out, or at least I think so.

You cannot deny the chemical process of love. The short one called infatuation. However that doesnt last, so I think you must first experience many loves, until you find someone who not only creates that spark but also provides you with the other kind of love, the one that lasts a lifetime. The caring, comforting, growing old kind of love.
The odds of finding a person like this are really low I would think.

Just remember I am really young and a lot of this is just me thinking out loud and trying to figure stuff out for myself.
 

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You cannot deny the chemical process of love. The short one called infatuation. However that doesnt last, so I think you must first experience many loves, until you find someone who not only creates that spark but also provides you with the other kind of love, the one that lasts a lifetime. The caring, comforting, growing old kind of love.
The odds of finding a person like this are really low I would think.

I agree with your idea of experiences leading to love. Not necessarily that you have to experience "many loves," but I think you have to experience different kinds of people before you can really know what you want out of a person and relationship. I'm basing this on my own personal experience with an ex who I dated for a few years when I was younger. We were young but we were "in love" with each other, even though love was a new thing to the both of us. We ended up breaking up, and after a few years of us both dating various people we weren't really compatible with, we both realized that we hadn't stopped thinking about each other and that we really were in love with each other, because in my opinion, real love is something that doesn't ever go away. So in my case, having the experience of other relationships really helped me realize what exactly it is that I want. Obviously this isn't going to be the case for everyone, but that's how it worked for me and her.
 

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Dont worry, you will find out I take criticism very well :) especially from women for some reason.

First off no one is actually void of emotion, we all do feel it. I have just spent years repressing feeling in order to gain some sort of screwed up version of self control, which has made it harder for me to connect with people because I never feel accepted. How can you not feel accepted and completely connected during sex? Sex is actually the only time I really feel even close to being connected. Before and after sex I really am a different person. Its much easier for me to "give" even in my own small way, after sex, before sex its almost impossible. However i wrote this post before reading a different post which kind of helped me figure something out, or at least I think so.

You cannot deny the chemical process of love. The short one called infatuation. However that doesnt last, so I think you must first experience many loves, until you find someone who not only creates that spark but also provides you with the other kind of love, the one that lasts a lifetime. The caring, comforting, growing old kind of love.
The odds of finding a person like this are really low I would think.

Just remember I am really young and a lot of this is just me thinking out loud and trying to figure stuff out for myself.

Hi Phil. I wasn't actually being critical, I was just kinda lost. I knew you had written all about your not giving and stuff and then I read the other post about love. I was scratching my head.

I know all about guys before and after sex or even just masturbating. Before sex they are all sweet and after sex they want you gone. That is why with this guy I am with now, when sex was over, I left. I don't think it was all bad. I think it kinda helped at least with how he thought about me. It seemed to make him work a little harder.

I totally agree with the chemical process of love. I read a book, "Why men want sex and women need love". It goes into all the chemical stuff going on and more. A very good book. No doubt we need to experience many relationships before we figure about compatibility. I don't know how these arranged marriages carry on. I think it is all left up to the woman to make it work. Women are suppose to adapt to the husband and just obey. If the marriage goes south it is due to the woman not doing her job properly even if the husband is really at fault. Men can do no wrong in these groups that do arranged marriages.

I realize you are still young Phil. This world really sucks right now. People are selfish and heartless. Hard to find a good man or woman.
 

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Care to elaborate?


Young socity has an obscenely warped view of what makes a good lover. Young society has so much access to the extreme, they have no concept of normal. It seems to me the mental side is being completely overlooked. It leads to objectification. In a society where youth celebrates ignorance (have you heard a rap song lately?), I hate to see love also fall by the wayside.
 

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Hi Phil. I wasn't actually being critical, I was just kinda lost. I knew you had written all about your not giving and stuff and then I read the other post about love. I was scratching my head.

I know all about guys before and after sex or even just masturbating. Before sex they are all sweet and after sex they want you gone. That is why with this guy I am with now, when sex was over, I left. I don't think it was all bad. I think it kinda helped at least with how he thought about me. It seemed to make him work a little harder.

I realize you are still young Phil. This world really sucks right now. People are selfish and heartless. Hard to find a good man or woman.

I am the exact opposite. Its actually the part after sex I enjoy the most, when your laying there holding onto each other. I love that feeling :D
 

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Actually I would give up a night of sex to spend a night just laying with a woman. Seriously sometimes Ill just have sex because I feel the need to perform in order to get them into bed. Lol isnt that supposed to be the problem women have?
 

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Young socity has an obscenely warped view of what makes a good lover. Young society has so much access to the extreme, they have no concept of normal. It seems to me the mental side is being completely overlooked. It leads to objectification. In a society where youth celebrates ignorance (have you heard a rap song lately?), I hate to see love also fall by the wayside.

I agree. Sex is warped these days. Guys expect the act of anal sex as normal and if you don't do it you are a prude! Gagging isn't anything excessive either! Objectification is a major problem.
 

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^ i agree it is a big problem today. you should respect your lover and not objectify them. i found out that once my GF got comfortable with me she started to squirt. and its pretty much everytime that she squirts now. ive gotten her to squirt doing oral to her it was surprising at first cause i thought it was just G-spot stimulation to but nope not after i came up with a soaked face and her giggling. i enjoyed it. im sure it depends on the woman to.
 

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New here don't know what age "young" is but Phil there is a reason u like the after. The hormones you get in the after are different.
A simple hormone and mineral blood test can show your levels. You may find you lack or are low in one or more areas affecting your natural production or uptake of seretonin.
Balance is so important to mood and how we approach life. You can't believe what a slight deficiency can do.

If the women you are with actually enjoy your comfort after sex maybe you are worth enjoying before lol
Get r checked!!